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Tiberius Fireskull 01-03-2011 03:30 AM

You can't point it at adults SEAKING. You have no evidence supporting it, and there is no way you can tell if someone is a kid or adult just by looking at them in game. It's most likely a combination of both.

Captain Del 01-03-2011 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEAKING23 (Post 286095)
I think its the adults that are effecting they game. they are smarter than the little kids, so they go and pick on them. Little kids can actually be very nice. in my experience, the adults treat little kids or anyone they dont know like trash, because they assume they are kids. i'm not saying all the adults are like this, but most adults jerks are. Maybe some kids take the game to seriously, but so what? i think its better to talk to them then then just to report them.

Its not fair to treat kids as the problem just because they are smaller.

Davy is right - how do you know whether I'm 8 or 75? I could be either, or, or in between. Not every adult is pointable by good grammar and an evolved vocabulary - plenty of younger players I know type better than me.

The point is, you can't blame a group just because you've seen it or felt it, especially when you don't really know who you're dealing with.

muffin pirate 01-03-2011 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEAKING23 (Post 286095)
I think its the adults that are effecting they game. they are smarter than the little kids, so they go and pick on them. Little kids can actually be very nice. in my experience, the adults treat little kids or anyone they dont know like trash, because they assume they are kids. i'm not saying all the adults are like this, but most adults jerks are. Maybe some kids take the game to seriously, but so what? i think its better to talk to them then then just to report them.

Its not fair to treat kids as the problem just because they are smaller.

What they have said. The key word in your argument is So What? Ok maybe we don't have to report them, but I mean this isn't a dating service or a a place for innapropiate conduct. You can't tell if someone is an adult or a child, but you can tell if, no matter what age type, if it is wrong or innapropiate.

SEAKING23 01-03-2011 05:21 AM

I get what your saying muffin. i just wanted to point out that kids aren't the root of the problem.

Tiberius Fireskull 01-03-2011 05:23 AM

Maybe that could be true, but you can't blame adults either. That would just be prejudice.

Captain Del 01-05-2011 01:47 AM

Another instance today.

I was in Raven's Cove minding my own business, going back and forth in between the two Traitor Ghosts. I was there for about 5 minutes when this level 50 comes in and, without asking, decides that it is ok to beginning attack the ghosts. I ask the pirate politely to head somewhere else ( the ENTIRE cave was open,) whether be a new spot or a new server - I just wanted to loot by myself in my little spot, after a stressful day. However, he is unresponsive.

Finally, after whispering to him, the pirate goes ahead and begins to confront me, telling me that I don't own the spot, and I don't have the right to tell him where and where not to play. He then gets his WIFE to argue for him, still repeating that I was the one who "should have asked" (I'm not even sure what she was saying,) and again that her husband can "do whatever he wants."

After me and the pirate try to talk about why you should ask before you begin to get involved, the pirate just ignores me, telling me they were going to contact Disney about me, and then teleports away.

The sad thing about this whole situation is the fact that this pirate told me they were a member of the forums. I know this isn't exactly a hall of wisdom, but I would imagine pirates here are more enlightened in terms of in-game courtesy and politeness.

So, I ask any of you - was I wrong in this situation?

Tiberius Fireskull 01-05-2011 02:03 AM

Del.

No.

You were perfectly right. It really gets on my nerves when people just come and invade you. It is just so incredibly rude and inconsiderate. Sure, you don't own the place, but you can politely tell him that you would prefer to be alone. If he was any sort of person, he would listen, and go find somewhere else. Whoever this jerk was obviously had no manners, and was being very inconsiderate. If you get a ban, I would personally email Disney with my ranting gloves strapped on, even though they would just trash the email. Especially the fact that this is an adult. A married adult. An adult who had his wife go and yell at you. That is just... well, I don't need words to express it.

Sorry that had to happen to you Del. But hey! At least they left in the end, aye?

Jack Shipsteel 01-05-2011 02:08 AM

You pointed the main problem right there, Del.

How many servers are there? I'll estimate and say 3 and a half dozen. How many different areas are there to fight? I'll estimate again and say 30. And in each place, how many enemies are there? Anywhere from 5 to 25. Using the 25, I get 31,500 different enemies. 31,500. Yes, I made mere estimates, but how far can I be truly off? I can only be 7000 off, give or take.

There are so many enemies to fight. If you are really hankering to get after that Undead Boss by yourself, look for an empty server. There's bound to be one. And if not, ASK the person there if you can participate. If they say no, respect his/her wishes. It was rude, but must there really be a full blown fight?

So many enemies to share. And really, would not a Timothy Dartan be just as powerful as a Darkhart? Would not 5 ghosts be as challenging as a Foulberto? Would not a Neban be able to be put in place of a Remington?

So really, the next time you find that a boss is currently being fought or a place has an occupant, is a drawn out argument better than just a quick search?

Chris Ironhawk 01-05-2011 02:59 AM

Del, this version of the story is 100% correct. I am a witness, and until the person started getting offensive, you handled yourself perfectly, AND you were on the correct side.

I, for one, do not believe that you have anything to be guilty of. You did the right thing.

I am very sorry that this happened. We all know that this should not happen.

SEAKING23 01-05-2011 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 286153)
Maybe that could be true, but you can't blame adults either. That would just be prejudice.

I wasn't really blaming, its just that it sounds like a lot of people blame kids, so i wanna point out that both are the root of the problem.

Captain Del 01-05-2011 03:16 AM

I would also like to point out that I was just recently harrassed in game, while I was AFK in the water. I won't go in to details.

Tiberius Fireskull 01-05-2011 04:48 AM

I'm guessing that you either were doll attacked, or someone did something inappropriate?

Captain Del 01-05-2011 12:02 PM

While I was AFK, two pirates came up and began to make rude comments about me. I would have gotten screens, but unfortunately I could only take it with print screen since Guild Chat was flying, and I didn't know how to post screenshots from print screen.

CaptainMonkeys 01-05-2011 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Del (Post 286777)
While I was AFK, two pirates came up and began to make rude comments about me. I would have gotten screens, but unfortunately I could only take it with print screen since Guild Chat was flying, and I didn't know how to post screenshots from print screen.

Paint>Paste>Save :D


I was there as well, (not the two pirates but the Cove incident, for some of it) and from what I heard, and what I have done in the past, Del did the common procedure. The procedure is ask politely and explain what you are doing, but if they get "someone else" to argue for them that hasn't seen the whole story, that's just wrong. What I heard is his "wife" thought you had invaded him.

~CM

Captain NightWolf 01-05-2011 05:07 PM

It's really disheartening to read all of this...Disney had a made a game, following the success of Toontown as well as the POTC games and movies, to be a fun & enjoyable pirate adventure with a nice family atmosphere...now it's all of this drama...

And while you can't say it's kids or adults, I will say that honestly nowadays many of these so called "l337" teenagers as well as young adults are the cause much grief...and it's not just in MMO's, it's also in FPS games...I call 'em youngins with attitudes...it's that whole pre-teen to age 23 or so that's rough before they finally grow up and see the real world...

Now I know why rum is in the game and it's always gone by true pirates...the onslaught of drama in the last year or so...don't fall prey to their rudeness...hang in there mateys...


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