Exactly. They are building up to something. This all started way back when with the first Casa De Muertos quest that was on Port Royal. That led up to invasions. Finally, when it came time for Padres to be invaded, they introduced El Patron's lost weapons (and I think I'm wrong, but wasnt this around the time when they added LOADS more EITC ships into the seas, and later took them away? Cant remember...). Once they started saying how Jolly thinks that El Patron's Weapons were on Padres, they said that they werent, and that they were on a place called Raven's Cove, and that introduced both Raven's Cove and Treasure Fleets, or Expedition fleets as they were called at the time. Then they released El Patron's weapons, and are adding more in the future (daggers soon, and staffs hopefully in the future). Then they added the minigames... not really sure how those guys fit in much, but oh well. Now they are adding Raven's Cove! As Midhav said, they are following a little story line, and I have a feeling that this is going to build up to the next story chapter eventually.

Sorry for blabbering on, just wanted to say how they are building up to something.

Well i think the kraken is going to be the big update of two or three this year like last year new weapons/inventory raven cove and mini games and invasions. This year I see the kraken qquest slash Davy Jones new ships/ship customization and more island maybe or new oceans and places. Well those are my thoughts wat do you all think

There's no leading up... I'm sure that its just a matter of a little bit here and there to keep things rolling.

LOL those pictures are funny! o.o especially the last 1...

maybe it was the green waters... you never know:pirate51:

Whenever the Ship of line comes out, kraken is most likely coming with it.

No it won't. Disney isn't going to say, "Well, we're making ships. Let's drop in the Kraken with NO story and no quest while we're at it and expect them to be happy." IF it ever comes out it will be at the end of a new story quest. Why are people so obsessed with the thing anyways? I've been okay without it for 3 years, why do I need it now?

Well, what I meant was, a hint the story quest or a post on the grog blog about something mysterious could come out shortly following the Sotl release.

Link or it didn't happen.

That would be good if it cameo out with the SOTL.... But I doubt it will happen.

Biggest problem with the Kraken, We can't kill it. This takes place between the 1st and 2nd movie. So we can NOT kill the kraken. As we seen in the third movie, it won’t quit, so there is no "Scaring it off" No matter what we do, it will end up dinking the ship. My guess is that we have to fight it to a certain point, it then sinks the ship, then we have to escape Davy Jones Locker somehow. That is the only way for it to happen.

Joshua we could damage it to an extent for it to retreat but this isnt based on the movie if it was beckett wouldnt be here yet and Elizabeth and will would be pirating it with those characters and world but it doesnt follow the story it like the movies never happened.

When did the developers ever say the game takes place between movies 1 and 2? Do you realize how bad of a move that would be on their end to do that? That would leave so much gameplay out that this would have been better as a console game than an MMO.

No where has it ever said, "POTCO is between movies 1 and 2." No where. I want to slap the person that started this rumor, because whoever did wasn't thinking logically when they wanted to fool people.

People, don't be gulliable. We're talking about an MMO. Disney would never limit the game to two movies. If they did that we wouldn't get to much in the game. We captured the black pearl, didn't we? That chapter was completely different from the first movie, so who says we can't kill the Kraken?

Please people, don't think that way. Can someone please tell me what evidence they have to say the game takes place between these two movies? There's none.

Every March we get the same thing. Green waters and a teaser for the kraken.

The problem for this game is that there are currently 3 movies, taking place in different time. So for this game, you have to pick a time period, you can't have all 3 times at once, otherwise if a person in movie dies, is he going to be alive or dead? If there was only 1 POTC movie, there wouldn't be all these probs.

No its taken place in the potco world just with different story line in Q&A a developer answered that question. they did this because they wanted total freedom with it all. You get it now if u don i will make u walk the plank. :ss_wtp-ani:

I'm sorry, I guess you haven't been exposed to the Raven Cove quest yet, so I'll explain it to you.

Developers have the power to take away NPCs in the game, and in the Raven's Cove quest you kill one of the ghost NPCs, and YOU'LL never see him again, but if you start a new pirate, that ghost NPC, I believe he's called Bellrog, will appear once again, until you defeat him later on in the game.

Disney can't afford to limit what they can do in an MMO, period.

Mac, the ghost is named Kudgel. Besides that, good explanation!

That island in the background looks like ravens cove so maybe just maybe it is pirates.

You asked for evidence. Here it is. I personally made this huge compilation LONG ago on the relation between this game and the movies.

The events of Pirates of the Caribbean online which include the Royal Navy stealing the Black Pearl, several pirates helping to bring it back, Jolly Roger searching for Jack Sparrow and his several invasions and raids on the many islands and settlements of the Caribbean seem to have occured somewhere between the first movie and second movie. Here are the reasons why this statement is verified :
*The pirate captain Jack Sparrow is alive and well, hiring pirates to do his deed of saving the Black Pearl and running away from the hands of Jolly Roger. Jack has also not yet gone to search for the picture of the key of the Dead Man's Chest.
*Captain Hector Barbossa has already been resurrected by voodoo mistress Tia Dalma, who sees the results of Jack Sparrow's search for the Dead Man's Chest, as she seeks to rally the pirate lords of the Caribbean
*Will Turner is alive, and has not yet gone in search of Captain Jack Sparrow in deal with Lord Cutler Beckett. He has also not died and replaced as captain of the Flying Dutchman
*Davy Jones has not yet seeked Jack Sparrow's payment of his debt, and his crew is still mutated and exists in the heart of Isla Tormenta.
*Elizabeth Swann is not yet in captivity under Lord Beckett, and has not yet gone to look for William Turner with the help of Jack Sparrow. She is also not yet the Pirate King and stays in her mansion wearing her normal British clothes.
*Governor Weatherby Swann has not surrendered to Lord Cutler Beckett and he has gone on a journey outside the Caribbean, and is yet to come back. He will be dissatisfied to hear the news of an undead Jolly Roger attacking his mansion.
*Lord Cutler Beckett is alive, and has not gained control of the Dead Man's Chest. It can be assumed though that he has not yet landed on Port Royal, that the East India Trading Company is active under his orders to destroy the pirates. Another fact is that islands of Port Royal and Tortuga could not have self-destructed under his watch as this does not happen yet during the movies.
*Tia Dalma has not yet been transformed into Calypso, and has also not gone in search of Jack Sparrow into Davy Jones' Locker.


'''Conclusion:'''


The story occurs between the first two movies. Jack Sparrow is not so involved in this story, as he has many other adventures far away from the hands of Jolly Roger. Meanwhile voodoo priestess, Tia Dalma notices that the only strong Pirate force in the Caribbean, 'The Black Pearl', has been captured by the Navy. She rallies together the most deadly of buccaneers to warn them of Jolly Roger's dark force rising in the Caribbean.

With more pirates joining the cause it only intensifies the strength of the undead army and further more with the coming of agents of the French and Spanish governments, Avaricia and Porc. As she sees further into the future she notices that the future actions of Jack Sparrow will trigger a possible extinction of Pirate lords. So she orders Jack to bring about the Fourth Brethren meeting, and at the same time brings Caspian pirate lord Hector Barbossa back to life to attend the conclave and help certain pirates to keep Jolly Roger at bay by supplying firearms to pirates told to stop at Barbossa's temporary home, his Grotto. Barbossa travels to and fro between Pantano river and the Grotto.

After his power rises in the caves and settlements of the Caribbean, Jolly Roger sends his new pirate puppets, the Casa de Muertos, who were brought back to life after a skirmish between the East India Company's ships and the pirate leader Captain Walter's ships, to Port Royal where they sent errands to Swashbucklers who stopped by, to retrieve them artifacts. Soon after, the undead's invasions of several islands begin. The search for items relating El Patron, Raven's Cove nd blades being cursed occurs along the way, as Jolly Roger begins his major attacks. After many months, Lord Cutler Beckett finally arrives in the reconstructed Port Royal (reconstructed after its mysterious destruction)which happens when the Governor has returned after his long voyage and Jack Sparrow learns of his debt to Jones. During this time Captain Chevalle is freed from the gallows of Port Royal to attend the conclave. Mistress Ching and Eduardo Villuanelva are invited during Jack's search for a crew in Tortuga. The Kraken boss battle will occur during this time.

Pertaining to your claim that the developers will lose out on this -revelation-, the only suitable solution would be a feature of many MMOs - expansions. Now why haven't they thought of that...

--Midhav

Everyone look at it like i'm looking at it:
*After you beat El Patron and get the cutlass you want, you get a new emotion saying Check Hand
*Check Hand says this: You dont appear to have the Curse of Doom, which is like a black hole, IN the 2nd movie.
*In the 2nd movie Captain Jack had this black hole, which make the kraken follow him. the kraken is coming out this year maybe, and i believe that a new villian is coming to the carribean from the 2nd movie as well ;) Davy Jones, his amry is already in Isla Tormenta, so he is bound to come out soon...

Soccer526, I just wanted to point out that the black spot does not make the Kraken follow him, it means something like he is going to die soon. The kraken was just going to be that reason.

Also Midhav, it would be hard to tell when exactly this movies was, because during the second movie is basically when Tia saves Barbossa, or something like that. Yet if it was between 1 and 2, Barbossa might not be alive, and he might not be in the Grotto. It is hard to know exactly when, because some parts of the story aren't shown or never give an exact time.

If you look closely in Dead Man's Chest when Jack visits Tia, you can observe that Barbossa is sitting in the other side of the room, unnoticed (Jack the monkey also runs to his side of the room). And if you've played the At World's End game, you'd know that Tia Dalma was using her aides to help her in rallying up the pirate lords, when Jack began his search for the key. It can be assumed that she predicted what was going to happen. Otherwise why would she revive Barbossa so early?

So the only rational outcome of this, adhering to PotCo's existence, would be that this was between the first and second movies. If it was set prior to or during the 1st, then Hector would be the cursed captain of the Pearl. And it's highly improbable for any of these events to occur in the very short time frame of Dead Man's Chest (also, Liz and Will won't be on Port Royal - they'd be roaming about the islands). And there was a long one year difference between the first two movies. And if during the 3rd, then Jack would be dead, and the rest of the characters elsewhere. If after the 3rd, most of these characters would have going their separate ways - Will taking the Dutchman, Jones' crew not being mutated, Elizabeth being a pirate captain, Beckett being dead, Jones dead, the Governor dead, and so many other characters misplaced.

This is the only time period for any of PotCo's events to happen.

And Soccer526 is right - the Black Spot is a sign of the Kraken on your tail.

I hope they are at least still working on the Kraken....

It would be pretty funny if one day they just released it, without giving any hints what so ever.

Okay.. here it is...

The game was a promotional tool for the 2nd and 3rd movies. It was supposed to be finished in time for the 2nd film's release. It was NOT and got set back.

In the meantime, they beta tested the Kraken scenes and there was obviously a problem. they have been promising us a Kraken for over three years - it ain't here. And likely won't be. Stop holding your breath for it.

Now, as to the point about the story limitations...

There is a valid point to say that now the 4th movie is coming, they may break us out of this trap the writers set. However, doing so would effectively lose Will and Elizabeth, Davy's boys and Cutler Beckett (who's around in spirit only any way).

But, the more like answer is they will simply go sideways and try to ignore the glaring issues between the films and the game. You film geeks will have to deal with the fact that any big changes will ruin the time line. Sorry, thats the way it would have to be.

Like you aren't one of the film geeks. :P

As I've said before, the answer to this whole thing would lie in one thing - EXPANSIONS! This game seems to be set between 1 and 2, so let it be named as... "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Rise of Jolly Roger"? And then Disney could come out with a sequel called "Pirates of the Caribbean: Extinction" which could be set during the events of both the 2nd & 3rd movies, when the EITC captures the Heart of Davy Jones, and begins its actual MASSIVE campaign against pirates. How about that? We would have two or three story quests for each expansion.

But the main thing is that none of these story quests should make DIRECT contact with the movies' stories, for then it would be as good as playing the console version of the movie game. For example, if we have a story quest about Davy Jones and the Kraken, it should not be about Jack asking us to look for Jones' heart. It could be about Jones wanting El Patron's Cursed Blades or hunting down Tia Dalma (causing chaos everywhere)

But the second proposition one could make on the game and its relation with the stories, is to leave the game AS IT IS, but make all the characters play their own stories in it. Because, if you take the basis of my previous paragraph, then we can have a story quest about Cutler Beckett/ Davy Jones / Tia Dalma wanting you to hunt down Blackbeard, which could culminate in some serious combat. This is because, during the events between 1 and 2, EVERY character, from the likes of Blackbeard to Jones to Jack to Beckett would be alive! So there are hundreds of possibilities you can make out of this. Davy Jones troubling Jolly Roger, so you have to fend him off.

It really doesn't have to be that we go to Singapore to find the charts, or cross the Farthest Gate to bring Jack Sparrow back. No. It's a game with the setting of PotC, so while all these exist, the game developers can be as innovative as they want with their characters.

I think I've set all my points over here for y'all to read. You may debate over all of this as much you want. I'm done :)

--- Midhav

There is no hope for the kraken. in everything diseny has done to the game, they show that they are lazier than the navy. (and thats saying something... lol) The kraken is an impossibility, so we might as well let this thread die!

Why reply to an old post? And what's with all the CAPS?

Also not all players want The Kraken. I am glad that thing isn't coming. I would much rather have the Mythical Second Chapter in game than anything else.

Aye, the Raven's Cove wasnt much of a second chapter...

I thought this thread was closed because of the same answers but I guess not. Well now if those who say the Kraken is not coming FOR SURE and it is released how would you feel?

Here's my opinion on this whole thing.

The Kraken probably will never come, or if it does, it will be faaaaaar into the future. I really don't care if it never comes, because I know there will be lots of additions that are just as good if not better than it! Now, if The Kraken does come by some miracle, I will be very happy. That would be cool, but I doubt it will ever come. Look at all the other cool updates that are out there! They are going to add new ships quite soon (or so most of us believe...), hopefully another story chapter, tons of stuff! Just quit asking for The Kraken. You and I know that it will never come, so just stop asking for it. You're getting so fixated on one thing that you can't enjoy all the others. Enjoy everything else that we have, and will have.

~Davy

It doesnt even matter! THE MOVIES ARE THE TALE, they dont matter! every charactar in the game and the game are the legend, i would think you would know that from the tv commercial :O

Ok first of all, you have no idea if it will come or not. The kraken WILL come. They keep to there promises. There redoing it, its just there working on other things right now, there trying to figure out how they can add it back into the game without messing up the storyline, so for now its blackbeard.

And besides, they showed them working on it with python panda 3D on Disney 365, the commercial on disney channel ( i looked it up on you tube ). Thats evidence that there making it. They want to make this one BEAST looking thing then the weird old model before!

So people who do want the kraken, keep the faith. Let them take there time ,lvl up and be prepared for it. Because it will come.

Actually POTCO Devs already said that The Kraken is not coming. And that commercial is really really old.

Besides... This game is based on creating your own pirate adventure not following the movies. So go out and enjoy your own pirates adventure. Stop worry about whats next and do whats out.

I hate to sound like a ranter, but I will have to say this. Where is your evidence of this? They probably promised us the Kraken about... what, a year after the game was released? POTCO is now almost 3 1/2 years old, and we have not seen it. If they can customize a whole new weapon inventory, Infamy, Invasions, Treasure Fleets, Raven's Cove, and all this other stuff we have seen, then why can't they make The Kraken? As Skirata said, the Developers said it isn't coming, and that commercial is years old. Something happened to the Kraken coding, or the Developers decided to work on other things. As I said in my previous post, it is probably not coming, and if it is, it is coming faaaaaar in the future. If it comes, great! But don't get so obsessed over this one little thing that may never come that you ignore all this other stuff. Its not even that great anyway. There are loads of other updates that can be released that are even better. Keep hoping all you want, but I highly doubt that it will come, and I personally don't care either way. There are countless other things that the Developers can work on that will be as good as or better than a silly over-sized piece of calamari.

Honestly, I don't even see why we are still posting on this thread. Most of us know the answer to if The Kraken is coming or not. The Kraken won't come. I'm fairly certain the Developers are working on other things right now.

Weapons have come out before the Kraken i am most defiently agreeing with Davy Teh Developers are not working on the Kraken. Being a Test pirate we've had leaks of things that are going to be realeased later and what they are working on. The new ships and the SOTL came out no Kraken.

Maybe they don't wanna copy the movie much. I think thats why. And besides, Is just some glorified squid. We have so much other stuff.

Can you give me a link to this dev diary that your talking about? if its true, i think that is kinda STUIPID! and to be honest i dont give if ship of the line does come out i dont even have enough gold right now to buy a spazzed out war frigate! and im lvl 45 with a bunch of stuff mastered.

I do not have the link, but TSC may, as he was the one that pointed it out. I merely used his statement for my post.

Blaster, you seem to be obsessing over the Kraken too much. Just let it go. Its an over-sized piece of Calamari. There are tons of updates that will be a lot better. Honestly, its not even going to keep you occupied for that long. If its a boss battle, which it will most likely be, then it'll probably be fun for a week or so, but after that, no fun at all. There are tons of updates out there that will keep people occupied for ages. A second story chapter, releasing loads of new drop quests, new enemies, hidden items, more. Just let it go, because honestly, it isn't that great anyway.

Sorry if I sounded like I was being a bit hostile, I just wanted to get my point across.

Bottom Line

Kraken = Not Gonna Happen

Hehe, Though I would love for it to, I just don't think Disney is up to it!

ive been trying to loot dark hart for days too try to get gold for sotl. And im not obsessed, the thing that i thought was cool was i saw it at E3 and i saw the trailer at disney land when i was 10.

And ive always wanted it and i had my hopes for a while, and now thats kinda STUIPID THAT THEY DONT PUT IT IN. Who doesnt want some extemely beast thing smashing ur ship with tenticles.



P.S. Got any tips on how to get a bunch of gold? i only 90k now.... :piratewheelgo2:

I feel you on the kraken thing and for the gold do what I did go to ratskeller and cheat at black jack bet 499 and try and all ways get blacks jack by cheating there are certain things you need to do I might make a video latter so you don't lose the money and get caught cheating but you can also go fishing fish for the big sharks the ones that look like great whites those give you 245 to 300 gold a piece.

haha thx now i dont have to go to darkhart anymore :D