Red Nations, I have seen a lot of that too... there are many rude players, but also I have seen a few cases of perverts in game... not all of them male so you know. Its really shocking, considering there are many children who dont erm, know about that stuff yet, if you know what I'm trying to say. Darkhart does bring in the worst in players... it really bugs me when people who are too low level to be in an area go there, I see a lot of that in tormenta. I usually will revive once, telling them that they shouldnt be here. After that, its their job not to die.

I think the revive feature while a good thing as a whole has some very bad effects. The lower levels now can get revived in areas they don't belong ( this is not my feelings its the way the game and for that matter all games of this sort are designed. Lower level baddies for start up and you work your way up to the big baddies as your skills and health dictate ) so instead of a quick trip to jail and a long trip back they can now sit there and ask (demand ) to be revived. They never learn to avoid death as its no longer holds the sting it once did. It is problem when you are fighting in high level areas and in guilds with lower level guild mates screaming over chat to "HURRY I'M KNOCKED OUT" and then getting mad when people don't drop what they are doing and hurry to the rescue.

This is of course just one area of the game that as a whole has lost the nice people it once had. I guess I'm not as helpfull as I once was as this kind of action had jaded my views. So in some aspect I have become part of the problem.

I always find Abassa darkhart is always telling me that I have to use cutlass while flipping a coin and wearing a red shirt but only if I'm eating a Twinkie. Can't I just level pistol?

He means he just wants to level his pistol, but people keep yelling at him cuz he isnt doing all this crazy stuff that rumors say will get them the lost sword and what not.

Well, late nite on a Friday nite is getting to be an eye opener even for this seasoned veteran of the game...every where I went it seemed.

Worst part is I found myself partnered with a new guildmate , questing at Cove who was very rude in public chat with someone from POF who I consider a friend, over rep stealing....irony is he was the rep stealer...and after many futile attempts to curb his behaviour in private chat....I decided to leave server to make my point of the seriousness of his actions....hoping he would follow.

I would like to apologize here to Luckie. At first, I thought you were afk or frozen. I will also address this in guild, as rules are very strict against public challenges and disrespect.

No Worries - hugs -
 

Yeah, new guildies coming in lately. Seems like I'm the only one who ever gets to punishing anyone. A rude guildmate, and someone whispers, "Jason, take care of him/her please?" I do it, but I'm sick of it. I need some officers who will actually MODERATE the guild... Anyway, enough of my rant. I sent the idea to Disney about a "Impersonating GM/Moderator" button on reporting. Someone was trying to draft people from my guild, claiming he was a GM's "other pirate" First off, why would you be begging for guild members if you were? Second off, Why flaunt that? Third off, he never even used proper grammar, spelling or caps. He wasn't even founder. He wasn't even level 40! And yet he was claiming he could master people who join. I warned him three times, then reported him under rude behavior. "Rude behavior" is mighty vauge to me. We need more report tabs.

Aye! I agree, we need better methods of reporting. I've suggested the addition of a window in the report section where we can type a description of the incident we are reporting. Give the moderaters a clear picture of whats occuring with the incident in question. Also some forms of rude harrassing behavior don't always show up in chatlogs.

It's people who run around like they own the place and think that everything should go their way, haven't quite realized it's a game yet

^ Exactly. A guild only uses a certain server. They don't own it. The Sorcerors and I do not believe that we own Mosona, we just consider it our home server, and use it for events, invasions, etc. Nobody owns anything in the game, outside of your official inventory.

^ Exactly.

Just felt like copying you. :laughks2:

Anyway, my home server was deleted. The Rouges can't go to Galaacare anymore and we're coming to your neighborhood. Get some stronger shutters. Anyway, yes. Guilds may hang in a server, but not have some reign of terror over it. :/

Since the updates we had moved to Eustubia a little home place. for the guild. Makes it easier to be together incase something happens. Though EITC guilds say they own it, we say its just a server for the guild to stay in contact together. Still their trying to shoo us away.

roger sword shot level 45 MASTERS IN SWORDS
 

I really hate people who try to make other's gaming experience bad. this is just a game, we are all here to have fun, so we might as well work together and make this fake world a fun and friendly place.
P.S have you guys noticed that there are few rude people on the forums? i wonder why rude people are in short supply in the forums :smiley: but not in the game? :sad:

I guess this would go in with rude, I was at Tormenta training, and after a little, this guy showed up started killing my enemies.

I asked if he would leave since I was training there.

After that he said maybe pirates online could make me my own world.

http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/39/15/76/screen15.jpg

A little later, I said I was leaving anyway and then something about rep stealing.

His reply was, Good leave.

http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/39/15/76/screen14.jpg

(didn't put at first, but this was on Kokojillo server I believe it's called)

Wow J.T.... that guy is a jerk. Don't worry about it. He won't last long in the game.

I ban J.T. and Davy for not letting this thread die an honorable death. :laughks2:


Really, yeah, he's probably just some griefer who thinks its funny. Or someone who has no idea of proper politeness in-game and will probably leave the game by the end of the year. So... Server surf. :P

Thats the stuff on what happens at Abassa Tormenta!

Since Im level 50 - I dont care who hits my enemies - just hit what Im hitting so we all get a shot. I miss exubia. =( Was always nice and quiet... and when Im on, we are usually there to loot.

I DESPISE when guilds get attitudes - it tends to make me want to stick around just for the sake of having them stress over my presence - since frankly - they can't 'steal' my rep - and hitting anything Im hitting will just help me by wiping it out sooner. =D

Im definitely the wrong person to try and 'displace' for the sake of Guild rights. LOL Last time it happened, I just got the blunderbuss out, and went on with my business! =D

By which you mean, griefing? That's wrong. Don't do that, it is a lot of peoples pet peeve.

There is a time to stand your ground, and a time to just leave.

A good time to leave is if there is just some jerk thats running around griefing people. If thats the case, I will see if I can outwit them, and if they are just too stubborn to do anything but yell out insults, I leave. Its not worth my time.

If I am training on Lyze of Kiel (my lv 24 pirate), and I get some jerk who won't let me train in piece, I will stand my ground. I will tell him to let me be, and to go find his own kills. If he or she is some guy that doesn't know how to chat, I will just leave. However, if he or she is being a jerk about it, and getting all "Your not the boss of me!" "You leave first!" "Shut up!" on me, you know what I do? I log out, go on Davy, find the person, and pull out Mr. Grand Blunderbuss. That person won't get more than one hit on the person before I blow out their brains with my Blunderbuss. Perhaps people may think that thats mean on my part, but I think it is necessary for myself, and to err, teach that person a little lesson.

Ditto. I tend to make people eat their own words, (see the I'm Captain of the Ship thread) and do it efficiently. For instance, if someone tells me, "You're not the boss of me! Shut up!" I'll say, "Well that contradicts. If nobody is the boss of anybody in the game, then why should you order me to shut up?" Silence... Usually I get back something like, "Shut up, noob!" (Usually with the n00b thing. Gah, leetspeek...) after a few minutes. And THAT is how you know you've won. I call it "word fencing." And I am not too bad at it.

See? This is why it is so good to be a good arguer! You can totally destroy someone without throwing a single insult at them! Its my favorite technique, because it is just so amusing!!!

I think the biggest problem with the increase in rude players is the environment at home.

Let's face it, forty years ago if you got in a fight with another kid, you'd not only get in trouble with your own parents, but with the parents that saw you do something you're not supposed to do.

Our stands of punishment have decreased since then, and from my point of view, it's only getting worse.

Oh well, all I can say is outwit the bullies, because they're not smart, and if they care about picking on you so much they follow you, exit the game for a while. Games are fun, you shouldn't have to put up with arrogant people, that's no fun.

I say, "Arrogance is plentiful, get used to it." Learn to deal with it, and to know when to grin and bear it. This goes for the REAL WORLD and the game.

Ive had experience with rude people. For example, during an invasion, a pirate says to me while he is knocked out and I'm reviving him: "u stu pod". That is speedchat plus language for stupid. Instead of taking it personally, I walked away to another spot to fight.

Ik!!! I miss a bunch of those quiet, pure, undisturbed servers... Battira, Exubia, Deseano, Romana, Kokoago... All taken away. BTW, I wonder why these servers were removed with a bunch of others, anyways.:piratewheelgo2:

The only thing I can actually do sadly is attack the enemy and let them attack and get KO. I paid gold for my tonics, some pirates dont belong in some places like a lvl 10 in Tormenta. I know its mean but thats the only tactic to do.

Aye. Usually, what I do if someone is a lv 1 in Level 50 land (or any out of balance level ratio) I will revive them once, and tell them that they don't belong here. If they are smart, they will leave. Otherwise, when they die again. Hey! I pay gold for my tonics! Can't waste them on people that don't have the common sense to listen!

I did that once...

Walked into tormenta using god glitch... Worked for a while... Then it stopped, and I got attacked by a level 50. Last time I went in tormenta till I was level 29 with a mastered cutlass... LOL

Its Griefing if I was there first? ;) I dont think so.

Did you read my whole post? When Im killing enemies for loot, and people show up, and start in - Guilds particularly - and act like I should leave.... I CERTAINLY will stay.

But, you say its griefing? Do you suggest when you are playing and people show up and act like they own the server, the smaller party should leave regardless?

Um. Nope. Im staying. If only to prove a point.

And, maybe the SMALLER party should join the larger one. If you're mastered, why worry about rep stealing? If you decide to make an issue of it, than it's griefing. You said:
Meaning? Griefing. If you are mastered, cut the unmastered some slack. They still have to worry about leveling and notoriety and all the rest. Guess who doesn't? If they actually want to get rep, then they aren't acting like they own the server. They just want to enjoy the game. And you deny them of that.

You're not understanding her post. This is what she means, or so I interpreted it. If she is just looting some enemies, and a bunch of other people come in AFTER her, and yell at her to get out, even though she was there first, that is mean.

Was that what you meant Nelly?

Davy --- EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WitchDr -

You are missing the point. I SPECIFICALLY was referring to people and guilds who show up and HARASS players, verbally and for the sake of wiping out enemies before your crew - that was there first - can get hits.
I will INDEED make an issue if the players are verbally insulting, or harassing my crew/friends - which was the topic of the first post - guilds who act like they own a server, and players who act like you are intruding on 'their' regular spot.

This isn't a matter of a nice player showing up to get rep - not at all. This is about looting at Darkheart, Ravens Cove or Tormenta with a crew, and having people show up and try to harass your crew to make you leave - which, if you actually go back and READ my initial post, and the post I replied to - you would have seen.

We often join into other FRIENDLY crews, or add FRIENDLY people to our own crew. BUT, as my post REFERRED to - the rude players who show up - I REFUSE to leave, I REFUSE to crew up - because that isn't what THEY want either. They want to show up, and harass your crew until WE leave - which isnt going to happen. =)

Now... please, before you reply again - read my original post, and all replies in context. No one ever said 'We were here first, no one can join' - I said 'We were here first, dont harass us, be rude, and expect US to leave' - BIG difference. If you think thats US griefing, Ill make sure I explain in my next post how the OTHER people are in reality, the griefers.

Actually, I believe it was your failure to clarify. Do what I do, before posting something, read over it again and ask yourself, "Will whoever reads this get it?" You, apparently, didn't. Now, one thing you could do is the "Word Fencing" technique as Davy and I mentioned. Or, ignore them and stay. After a while, they'll leave. Remember, the majority in the game are kids. And kids have egos these days, so they think that it is THEIR server. I would tell you to go to a deserted server, but Disney got rid of them. /grumble

PS: Just re-read it. Try not to come back as hostile next time....

My point is, as an adult - I refuse to allow anyone I crew with to be harassed or bullied. Im the master of word fencing, but if someone is going to grief my crew, I can turn it around tenfold without saying a word.

Perhaps a taste of their own medicine would do the trick - it sure seems to. And, regarding anyone not 'getting' my post - it appears you were the only one who didn't. =)

Rofl... hilarious! The other day, my brother was with some guildies, hanging out at the Driftwood Shack. They weren't doing anything other than just sitting inside and having a little fun. All of the sudden, some people come in. These people were INSANE. They started yelling at them to get out of "their house". Obviously, my brother and his friends were saying how it isn't anybody's house, but these people were pretty crazy. It was a family or something, and so one of them held out a sword and said something like "GET AWAY FROM MY CHILD!". Obviously, my brother and the Sorcerors weren't doing anything other than standing their ground, and my brother brought up how they were taking this game too seriously. Then one of them said something hilarious.

"This isn't a game! This is reality!"

Someone needs a vacation from this game. The ban the should be getting should help with that. Amazing how rude people can be. I really, really hate it when people say that they "own" a certain place.

Bah, this entire thread is a testament to the immaturity of our generation. Some of the stories posted made me laugh, actually. :] However, a lot of them simply scream how immature and ignorant some of these kids can be.

I've been playing the game (been on and off in terms of actually playing, but in general) since 2007. Back then, you could actually pick up a crew comprising very random people and seldom have to deal with immature people. Even as the game progressed in 2008, the community was relatively decent. Sure, there were a few nuisances back then, but there seemed to have been a certain level of respect that was maintained throughout the game.

Fastforward to today, December, 2010. Today, I doubt most of us could go a day leveling in Tormenta, farming Darkhart, or whatever else, without having some random pirate arrive and demand you leave THEIR spot. Umm, yeah. Things have certainly changed a lot.
Two major factors play key roles in this rude behavior:

- Population: The older the game gets, the more people are going to play it. More people = more rude people. It's slightly disappointing when you think about how much more civil the game was back in '07-'08; but then again, it just comes with game age.

- Age: Let's face it. This game is primarily targeted for the younger kids ranging from 10-13. With that comes a guarantee that the maturity quotient of the game WILL drop. And it has.

Reading some of these posts (and looking back at actual experiences), age and population aren't the only two things that have lowered the maturity of the game. To me, it has a lot to do with how seriously people take the game. Honestly, ask yourself, you good people of POF who know how to separate game from reality: Do you stand in Abassa for hours on end looking for a date? Do you find a God glitch, speed glitch, etc., and use it in PvP as a means of "owning"? I would hope not. Why is that? Because you know that 99% of the time, you will NEVER get far with somebody on Pirates. Sure, there are rare instances where an original pirate couple meets in RL and it turns into a sweet love story. But those down-to-earth enough know that you hardly ever find a E-harmony-like relationship in the midst of Abassa Tortuga.
Why don't you play dirty in PvP? Reprimand people for not conforming to the jumping society that the PvP scene is turning into? Because you know that PvP is ONLY A PART OF THE GAME. It is a simple feature within the game meant to be used for fun and friendly competition, not image and pretentious attitude. It's not the Olympics or the World Cup. You can't put "Awesome jumper" on your resume and expect to get a job from it.

Where I'm getting at with all this is that immaturity is the root of this, undoubtedly. However, the thing that sticks the most out to me is how seriously people take the game. A constant need to reprimand people for their PvP style, try to find a date through a bunch of pixels, or go to the Driftwood shack and claim it as your house (That story was hilarious, Davy. Might as well start a reality TV show now. xD) comes from how willing someone is to realize that this is a game, not reality.

Overall, despite what I said above, there is no definite answer to your question, Pirate J. It's due to multiple factors ranging from age to mental maturity. In your case, it was raw ignorance that got you. Sadly, some people have yet to realize that behind those avatars sit people filled with real emotions and opinions. It may be just a game, but it's the psychology behind peoples' actions on the game that affects others.

ROTFL!! I can't believe he really said that!! omg!!

I had another noob encounter yesterday. I was at smasho with a couple guild mates and my friends guild, coastal pirates. Well, i asked there crew leader to crew my friend, and he said "he's a kid."
I said back to him "so?"
I still can't believe he said this, "if i wanna play with kids i might as well go play with my own."
I told him, "you might as well be a kid right now." Then he kicked me out of the crew and left. I'm glad he did.

When I go AFK and come back, I typically check my chat log to make sure no one whispered me or anything. Nine times out of 10 I see the "this person's AFK in my house/apartment/yard/garage/store/etc." I'm fine with kids playing the game and having fun and all that...but the house business gets on my nerves. LOL. :xlaugh:

Wow, this got on my nerves. I had just gotten Silver Freeze today, and was celebrating and rejoicing, when one of my guildmates says that there is someone making fun of my guild's name because "Sorcerers" is misspelled (ours is spelled SorcerOrs, with an O). First thought I get is: "Why the heck is someone making fun of my guild's name for not being spelled CORRECTLY. I made it this way because I wanted something different." Second thought I get: "I am going to give these guys the talk of their life!"

So I go to my guildmate, and I tell her to let me handle it. I act pretty calm like I always do. I'll give you a chat log. Not exact, but its about what happened.

me: You have a problem with my guild's name?
her: yea, its sorcerers.
me: Ok, I wanted to spell it that way.
her: Well its wrong.
me: It doesn't matter. I have a wonderful guild, with wonderful people.
her: Are they illiterate?
me: No, why do you ask?
her: just wondering...
me: Ok, I think you need a vacation from this game. The ban you will be getting should help.

Then I left.

I glanced over at my brother's computer, and he is still there. Then she says "They couldn't win anyway."

I thought it was funny, because I wasn't really arguing in the first place, just stating a few facts. They were just a few bozos looking for a fight. It really annoyed me though. It would be like someone making fun of Partners N Crime for having an N instead of In (and yes, I know that it is because 'In' was the previous guild). I'm not overreacting by being really mad about this rite?! @_@

I know this has nothing to do with POTCO, but here goes my rant.

Ok, so I logged onto Black Ops today, and went directly to my friend. He was in combat training, so I asked if we were going to do the usual slaughtering of those recruit robots. He said yes, and after a few rounds, him and his friend decided to have some "fun". My friend amped up the level to veteran, without me knowing, and started the round. As soon as we got in the round, his friend shouted, Everyone VS Muffin! And they both switched over. So I am left to die against super computers. What would you do? Switch over right? Well thats what I did! And as soon as I did they got super mad at me. Just because I switched over! I said to change it to F4A but my friend said Oh Heck No! So this went on for two more rounds. Then I said, Wait, am I supposed to die while you guys have fun??? And guess what they said... Yeah. I said I am not being used so you two can chat and talk while I keep dieing?. Then they just joked about it! Then I got super mad! I ended up leaving the game, but, Geez what friends they are...

Rant Over - By the way, you spelled right wrong. xD

Still fits the topic, since it is about people in general, just outside of POTCO...

Dear Muffin,

Sincerely,
Davy Fireskull, GM of Shadow SorcerOrs

Lol Good Lord. I've seen a lot of misspelled guild names. But that doesn't give anyone the right to criticize it and try to belittle the guild in general.
Your reaction was perfectly normal; I would have done the same, to be honest, haha. Good choice, not exploding on her, though.

Oh trust me, that's happened plenty of times. Not my fault that Disney decided to reject A DOZEN name submissions <_<

Yes Davy, you're completely right that it gets extremely aggrevating. Besides, it's not like our guilds' names are hobas for different typing and spelling, much like other guilds I've seen. Just goes to show, never judge a guild by it's name.

Ever notice that the Comps have aimbots? :P

And WitchdoctEr Dan of Shadow SorcerOrs. /snicker

*picks on Davy*

Kidding, of course.

Yeah, people are kinda rude.

One word- Abassa.

Abassa has affected it a lot. Not the server, obviously, but the people, particularily the Tuga Abassa crowd. Not saying everyone there is rude, but a lot of the usuals there are. They do the fake swearing, the asking for gf/bf, the picking on. It's kinda annoying.

Luckily, guild wrecking doesn't really happen anymore.

I think its the adults that are effecting they game. they are smarter than the little kids, so they go and pick on them. Little kids can actually be very nice. in my experience, the adults treat little kids or anyone they dont know like trash, because they assume they are kids. i'm not saying all the adults are like this, but most adults jerks are. Maybe some kids take the game to seriously, but so what? i think its better to talk to them then then just to report them.

Its not fair to treat kids as the problem just because they are smaller.

You can't point it at adults SEAKING. You have no evidence supporting it, and there is no way you can tell if someone is a kid or adult just by looking at them in game. It's most likely a combination of both.

Davy is right - how do you know whether I'm 8 or 75? I could be either, or, or in between. Not every adult is pointable by good grammar and an evolved vocabulary - plenty of younger players I know type better than me.

The point is, you can't blame a group just because you've seen it or felt it, especially when you don't really know who you're dealing with.

What they have said. The key word in your argument is So What? Ok maybe we don't have to report them, but I mean this isn't a dating service or a a place for innapropiate conduct. You can't tell if someone is an adult or a child, but you can tell if, no matter what age type, if it is wrong or innapropiate.

I get what your saying muffin. i just wanted to point out that kids aren't the root of the problem.

Maybe that could be true, but you can't blame adults either. That would just be prejudice.

Another instance today.

I was in Raven's Cove minding my own business, going back and forth in between the two Traitor Ghosts. I was there for about 5 minutes when this level 50 comes in and, without asking, decides that it is ok to beginning attack the ghosts. I ask the pirate politely to head somewhere else ( the ENTIRE cave was open,) whether be a new spot or a new server - I just wanted to loot by myself in my little spot, after a stressful day. However, he is unresponsive.

Finally, after whispering to him, the pirate goes ahead and begins to confront me, telling me that I don't own the spot, and I don't have the right to tell him where and where not to play. He then gets his WIFE to argue for him, still repeating that I was the one who "should have asked" (I'm not even sure what she was saying,) and again that her husband can "do whatever he wants."

After me and the pirate try to talk about why you should ask before you begin to get involved, the pirate just ignores me, telling me they were going to contact Disney about me, and then teleports away.

The sad thing about this whole situation is the fact that this pirate told me they were a member of the forums. I know this isn't exactly a hall of wisdom, but I would imagine pirates here are more enlightened in terms of in-game courtesy and politeness.

So, I ask any of you - was I wrong in this situation?

Del.

No.

You were perfectly right. It really gets on my nerves when people just come and invade you. It is just so incredibly rude and inconsiderate. Sure, you don't own the place, but you can politely tell him that you would prefer to be alone. If he was any sort of person, he would listen, and go find somewhere else. Whoever this jerk was obviously had no manners, and was being very inconsiderate. If you get a ban, I would personally email Disney with my ranting gloves strapped on, even though they would just trash the email. Especially the fact that this is an adult. A married adult. An adult who had his wife go and yell at you. That is just... well, I don't need words to express it.

Sorry that had to happen to you Del. But hey! At least they left in the end, aye?

You pointed the main problem right there, Del.

How many servers are there? I'll estimate and say 3 and a half dozen. How many different areas are there to fight? I'll estimate again and say 30. And in each place, how many enemies are there? Anywhere from 5 to 25. Using the 25, I get 31,500 different enemies. 31,500. Yes, I made mere estimates, but how far can I be truly off? I can only be 7000 off, give or take.

There are so many enemies to fight. If you are really hankering to get after that Undead Boss by yourself, look for an empty server. There's bound to be one. And if not, ASK the person there if you can participate. If they say no, respect his/her wishes. It was rude, but must there really be a full blown fight?

So many enemies to share. And really, would not a Timothy Dartan be just as powerful as a Darkhart? Would not 5 ghosts be as challenging as a Foulberto? Would not a Neban be able to be put in place of a Remington?

So really, the next time you find that a boss is currently being fought or a place has an occupant, is a drawn out argument better than just a quick search?

Del, this version of the story is 100% correct. I am a witness, and until the person started getting offensive, you handled yourself perfectly, AND you were on the correct side.

I, for one, do not believe that you have anything to be guilty of. You did the right thing.

I am very sorry that this happened. We all know that this should not happen.

I wasn't really blaming, its just that it sounds like a lot of people blame kids, so i wanna point out that both are the root of the problem.

I would also like to point out that I was just recently harrassed in game, while I was AFK in the water. I won't go in to details.

I'm guessing that you either were doll attacked, or someone did something inappropriate?

While I was AFK, two pirates came up and began to make rude comments about me. I would have gotten screens, but unfortunately I could only take it with print screen since Guild Chat was flying, and I didn't know how to post screenshots from print screen.

Paint>Paste>Save :D


I was there as well, (not the two pirates but the Cove incident, for some of it) and from what I heard, and what I have done in the past, Del did the common procedure. The procedure is ask politely and explain what you are doing, but if they get "someone else" to argue for them that hasn't seen the whole story, that's just wrong. What I heard is his "wife" thought you had invaded him.

~CM

It's really disheartening to read all of this...Disney had a made a game, following the success of Toontown as well as the POTC games and movies, to be a fun & enjoyable pirate adventure with a nice family atmosphere...now it's all of this drama...

And while you can't say it's kids or adults, I will say that honestly nowadays many of these so called "l337" teenagers as well as young adults are the cause much grief...and it's not just in MMO's, it's also in FPS games...I call 'em youngins with attitudes...it's that whole pre-teen to age 23 or so that's rough before they finally grow up and see the real world...

Now I know why rum is in the game and it's always gone by true pirates...the onslaught of drama in the last year or so...don't fall prey to their rudeness...hang in there mateys...

It could all be easily fixed. ban the word noob, and get a huge mod. team.

Another reason IMO that we now have more of these instances where pirates come up and get into it with others while looting or leveling is because of the number of high level pirates now and because of the looting system.

First of all back in the day there were not as many mastered or high level pirates or high powered weapons around and most people actually needed a decent crew to take down enemies they wanted. Also the loot system was not in place and the aggressive nature in which some pirates try to "claim" there turf was not as strong. There are many more pirates trying to loot or level by themselves than ever before not saying it's wrong just a observation.

So the nature of the game has changed whether right or wrong and probably will never go back to the way it was.

I don't see why people are always so rude. Just because they are hiding behind a computer character doesn't mean they should not mind their manners!

I do find it humorous that most of the more... immature... people in this game have no idea how to report, thank goodness. Therefore, if I report someone and tell them, I get the rather humorous response that they "didn't know I was a mod". While that makes me laugh, what difference does that make, ya know? If I were a mod, it wouldn't matter if you worshiped me, the point is not to be mean to other players.

On another note, about the whole "age" thing, it is sometimes intelligible in other, more (I hope I'm not offending anyone by saying this...) mature games on the PC platform the age of the person you are dealing with. Here and other MMOs of this type, meh, not so much. However, the games requiring custom gaming rigs to play usually have a more mature community. (Which I am a proud member of.) Therefore, a younger member tends to stick out. This may be because of the price of gaming rigs, or the fact that younger children may not know too much about computers. (This is not always true. I was a PC gamer when I was about 12 and I am sure there are a handful of youths out there who are very tech-capable.) But in MMOs, not so much.

Hey guys! I have another funny story! Sit Cris-cross-applesause while I spin my tale...

So, I was doing some recruiting for my guild, and I go up to this guy and ask him if he wants to join. His reply? "No crazy". Here is a general dialogue.

me: ok....
him: dumbo.
him: loser.
me: You don't know me. Why are you making these assumptions about me?
him: fat
me: You're making fun of my avatar? You don't know what I look like.
him: I bet I'm older than you.
me: Then act like it.
him: loser.
him: dumbo
me: You need a vacation from this game... the ban you will be getting should help with that.
him: fine i'm sorry can i do anything to help you?
me: Yea, get some manners.

Then I left. He was pathetic. Just threw a bunch of random insults for no reason... what a moron...

Nice turn-a-rounds. Bet he didn't see that coming.

He pretty much ignored everything I said and kept throwing random insults... I don't know what the heck was wrong with this guy. I mean, if you want to act rude, at least have a REASON to do it, aye?

you all know i had a thread about rep-stealing that had a long long run here...I still stand behind what i said...try to crew people who invade your spot, or ask them nicely to leave. Or change servers. Had a problem with a guild on this site in treasure room, who clearly saw a close to master member trying to level his nades...yah someone in our crew told them to quit not nice, but they wouldn't take crew. This was a quiet server and we had a big crew. GM of looting guild started more probs by insisting we practically beg them to leave. Whats with that?

If you see someone mastering and you choose to stay...fine. Take crew. How hard is that. As a GM fella you should have done the right thing and told your guys to go to thralls maybe > our guy only needed another ten fifteen minutes. :(
Molly Ohara

People are just selfish these days -_-
Sorry you had to suffer that seafox,
amazing what noobs do these days.

Disney should pull a Davy and turn any text calling someone a noob into "I am a noob". Davy did something similar on the SS guild site, so POTCO can do it as well.

^^^ Yeah, haha, good idea. That was um annoying hehe :D

Of course they make it known to the world... xD

That could work. It would be humiliating for the person, and when they did that, it would get sent to the moderation staff so they could review it. Then again, there could be flaws, like when two friends are joking around, and one calls the other a noob as a joke. Although something similar could work.

Of course we do. That's what we do.

I feel horrible today. I added someone to Shadow Sorcerors today, and he started babbling on about how he made an old guild and how it had so much drama and it failed and bla bla bla. It was bothering some of my guildmates, and they had told him to stop. He didn't listen and kept on babbling. Needless to say, I ejected him. Then a guy in our guild started saying stuff about how we should have let him be, and that we should have just ignored him. I tried telling him that its hard to ignore someone when they are spamming up guild chat. He claims that its really easy. I try telling him that he was told to stop, and he didn't, so he earned it (this counts as drama in our book by the way). He started getting really mad at us, and started saying stuff about me being a bad GM and us being bad people. I kicked him out too. I don't mind people stating their opinions, but he was starting to get too... argumentative, and was starting to insult us.

He happened to be friended with Billy Fireskull, and I hear he wants to talk to me (or something like that...). I go to him. He continues about how we should have ignored him, and that there is no freedom left, and bla bla bla. I then tell him to pretend he is a guildmaster of a big guild, with lots of happy members. Then he adds someone who is a drama causer. His members are complaining that he is bugging them. Then I asked what he would do. Guess what he said. "Its not that hard to ignore..." I felt like I was punching a beanbag chair. It cant do anything to help itself, and it just keeps taking the punches, and it knows it can't win, but it never dies. I reported him, because he was insulting me there too. Not just "your stupid" flat out insults, but that way that they sorta taunt you by saying stuff in that teasing way that implies mean words, but they put happy faces and stuff... which is even more annoying.

Guildmasters, Co-guildmasters out there; if there is a guy causing tons of drama in your guild, are you going to just ignore him? Or are you going to do something about it?

People seem to have the mistaken idea that freedom is doing whatever you want. this is not the case, obviously, because then others aren't free. There must be rules, and they must be observed. Try to feel less horrible :)

Aye, if there weren't rules; then what would make us a civilized society? We would still be dragging our knuckles and speaking in grunts. :laughks2:

Well, humans never were dragging their knuckles or speaking in grunts, but its true that society would come crashing down if there were no rules. One might argue that it's already happening now that people are abandoning rules.