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Diego Birmingham 10-09-2008 11:59 PM

All Disney would need to do to allow socializing and still protect kids (and other who want the protection) is to setup a link to POF or their own POTCO forum site, with warnings (in the case of POF) that the game rules of interaction do not apply there and to be wary of predators. Players are happy and Disney's reputation is intact and liability-free.

BTW, my congrats to the mods here who keep the place safe and under control.

BTW #2 -- I found this site without ever having heard of it from anyone--POTCO player or otherwise. I was interested in a place for discussing the game and found that and more. All I did was google. Anyone can do it. I have however, provided several players with the URL and others the name or solid hints about how to find POF. I have never been banned for anything.

MacIronhawk 10-10-2008 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 79636)

It was really made for all age groups but not for what all age groups do.

I contradict myself a lot but what I say last is what I mean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 79646)
And what do you base this on? I see absolutely no facts to support your statement. Content, advertising, the POTC franchise all together. Sorry matey. Just because Disney makes alot of kids games doesnt mean this was one of them. Trix are for kids... POTC is for the family audience (this includes adults).

I also haven't seen facts that say it was made for families but that's just me.
I do know the game doesn't target just adults but families.(kids and adults but without adult material like blood, etc..
If it did I bet we would have an emotion to drink rum, etc...
I still think an adult server would be out of the question. If disney's a company that is based for families then an adult server seems out of the question.

I see posts saying that say disney is zero-tolerance.
I want to agree with that but I can't. (I'm going to contradict myself)
In MY opinion if it was zero-tolerance we wouldn't be able to type in short forms of bad words to be rude to people.
Disney could have been smart and made it so that wasn't possible but it is.
While they are zero-tolerance they're not smart enough to make sure people can't get around using profanity in short form.
If I had a game that targeted families then the first thing I would do is make sure that text profanity and regular profanity for chat wasn't possible.

Capt. Widowmaker 10-10-2008 01:46 PM

Topic: Adult server ... let's forget about theoretical speculations: Can they ? Will they ?

A potco friend was asked by a player what her name was. She knew personal info
would suspend her, so she would in a humorous way decline the question:

She wrote the name of one of her potco pirates ... and was SUSPENDED !

Is THIS fair ? She wrote disney and told them the facts. They replied that they considered
it personal info and continued the suspension !!!

THIS is one of the reasons i find it fair and reasonable that we have a playground of or own.
And i am NOT talking explicit erotical, sexual, ranting, abusive contents - i am simply talking
about a server where we can be adults with the sense of humor and subhumor that we have
sharing the info we want if somebody finds us interesting enough to friend us outside potco.

I am sure that i also one day will be suspended because of a humorous or innocent remark.

>>> reply to edgemenace :

I can see that you have edited your post. I now also see why misunderstandings are made.

My remark / quote > > Aye, now back to topic < was to Sarah, and not for you. Why you took
it up as a personal attack idk - and i have no comments on that.

You also mocked my writings and accused me of being not an adult, because of many flaws
in my posts.

Know this ... i am new here which means that my replies takes a while to be approved and
therefore can risk being percived wrong or read in the wrong context.

I am also from Denmark, so i don't master the language spoken in
The United States of America
so well.

Edward Edgemenace 10-10-2008 03:47 PM

Well then, my apologies, if my point was not made. What you perceived as "mocking" was intended to demonstrate how impossible it is, to determine if someone is or isn't an adult. (That may have been obscured by the reactionary insult that the moderators removed.)

If Disney were to have adult servers, they would need a fairly fool-proof way of determining someone's age. As of today, POTCO still has the age of the primary account holder on my primary account, as the fictional age entered when the account was first created. That is, not my age, nor the age of my children.

Simply saying that they could/would have everyone sign a waiver saying they are adults, is flawed. Since the POTCO staff assumes that everyone now is 13, any such signature would have the validity of a 13-year-old's signature: no legal validity at all.

MacIronhawk: I don't know if you were referring to my comment about zero-tolerance, but I had writtend "zero-tolerance in regards to personal information." Sorry if you misunderstood that as "zero tolerance for everything." I strongly agree that their profanity filters could be improved.

Jade Macmorrigan 10-10-2008 05:18 PM

(wow last time i posted on my own thread was awhile ago...lol)

anywho....

i personaly don't see why Disney can't filter out the ages of its players. reason i'm saying this is this...there's a game on the net that's "adults only". um, NOT giving the name because when i say ANYTHING goes, i mean ANYTHING goes. (i found it by accident looking up MMORPG's on wiki-pedia...lol. there was a HUGE list!!) so being the nosey sort, i went and looked. and BLUSHED FURIOUSLY...lolz. MY POINT??? if they can filter out the ages of THEIR players...why can't Disney??? i mean they were really REALLY 18 and over only!!!!!

Making a link sounds like a good idea, but thing is, even on thier player's channel (that DXD thing) you can't give out personal info. if anything it's even more analretentive than the actual game. i know. i got banned trying to figure out how to send my email address to someone there too. messed up part was it wasn't even my real email address!!

what i wish they'd do if nothing else, is at least offer a way for those who are over 18 to be able to contact one another off game. maybe a messaging area, with a warning notice that before you post, you're responsible for yourself and what you post. like, "don't send info unless you realize you're doing it at your own risk....if-they-turn-out-to-be-some-psycho-it's-no-one's-fault-but-yours" kinda thing. but after you click on a box or whatever saying you understand that risk, THEN allow you to share your email address or something. if you've been forwarned then there's no way Disney can be held responsible, right??? i mean you have to check "i agree" or "i disagree" on stuff all the time, riiiiiight?? why can't they do the same thing in reguards to contacting someone?

it just stinks that there's cool people i've made friends with in the game that i'd love to talk to off the game but can't. i mean sure, i have friends from a certain social website (who's name i can't mention here either) that found me on some interest groups there that i play with on the game now, but any friends on the game? there's no way to let them know how to find me there.

ah well. what ya gonna do, eh?:Hrolleyes:

Capt. Widowmaker 10-10-2008 05:51 PM

Shakes hand with Master Edgemenace ...

>

Macmorrigan ... > at least offer a way for those who are over 18 to be able to contact
one another off game <

This is Xactly what i mean !

I did find a way now how to lead people to my existence ... i'll write u a pm "how to"
if you want.

>

And now the D company made blog entries possible - so mayhaps we should place our
corpses there so they will be aware of the need.

>

And it seems here also that we are censored more than usual ...

Here in Denmark we call the US > United Steaks of America <

simply because your country serves huge steaks - well everything is huge or bigger than
normal compared to europe, and the size of the steaks have us astonished sometimes,
so we nickname US as the above.

It's not to ridicule, but a humorous nick like we give people dear to us nicknames.
But since my postings need to be censored and approved - steaks was changed into states.
Isn't that a bity TOO hysterical ? (an open question to moderators)

Sarah 10-10-2008 06:22 PM

Quite frankly, I thought it was a typo. Now explained, I think it's a riot ;)

As for contacting people out game....I've always directed people here. A quick "check out pirates on line forums, look for Sarah", has always worked for me.

Charlotte Grey 10-10-2008 07:00 PM

Same here. And because my pirates online forums name is the same as my main pirate's name, it's not so difficult :)

Capt. Widowmaker 10-10-2008 08:33 PM

> A quick "check out pirates on line forums, look for Sarah" <

> it's not so difficult <

***

No ... smiles - it never is when you do know the magic word. But the difficulties have
been how to find out what they accept and what they don't accept. They do suspend,
and sometimes without an explanation -

- but what they DON'T offer >>> alternatives. We have to find out ourselves. Well enough
of that.

And now we are back on track (well somehow) i just happen to see a disney perception of
what is childstuff:

A cartoon where u see Pluto plowing thru snowdrifts. All of a sudden it stops and listens ...
Meow ... a pityful whining from a kitten.

THAT kitten is inside a bag. The bag is tied and closed with a rope and at the end of
that rope is >>> an iron !!!

NOT only that - the bag and the iron floats on two different ice flakes. THAT actually made
me shiver. Eventually the ice flakes will drift apart and the iron will pull down the kitten.

They catch kids attention by playing with their emotions in a scary way. I call that double
morale.

Is THAT what they serve for kids ? In that light i find it a great contradiction the way they
treat us - the adults.
Excuse me ... they treat kids emotions like they were adults, and they treat adults like
we are kids at the age of 13. What's going on ?

They have made mistakes before. As i recall when they made the movie Fantasia it caused a
furore and was considered too scary for kids - so they don't always make rational decisions.

I can't help thinking related to the two events above: Do they have so strict manuals that
they have no room for flexibility or rational thinking or ideas ?
Maybe that's what's going on ... just a thought ...

MacIronhawk 10-11-2008 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 79951)

MacIronhawk: I don't know if you were referring to my comment about zero-tolerance, but I had writtend "zero-tolerance in regards to personal information." Sorry if you misunderstood that as "zero tolerance for everything." I strongly agree that their profanity filters could be improved.

Oh sorry I thought that's what you meant.
I do believe they have zero tolerance for personal information.
I think more people get banned from POTCO by asking for personal information than anything else.
Good thing I have experience from playing toontown so I wont get banned for things like that.

But back on topic:
Why would disney create an adult only server if the game was based for families?
How much disagreement would be caused if an adult server was made?
If it's family based and parents play on their children's account imagine how bad this adult server could be. The children MAY ask(but that's just from my experience and my opinion) to go on the adult server.
And you know what I think the answer would be? Yes. I've already seen parents let kids under the age of 13 watch Restricted movies.
I think an adult server would be ok to them too.
That's just what I see parents do. Maybe I live in a part of the country where this is common. This is just my experience so this isn't a fact that parents would let their children play on the adult server if there was one.

I don't think it's a good idea and if I were part of a family based company then this would be something that goes in one ear and out the other.

Jack Garrett 10-20-2008 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jade Macmorrigan (Post 34589)
i really hope this gets the attention of the admins of the game..i've seen other suggestions made that are now part of the game..so here goes...

ok so i've tried to search thru the threads here and i've seen this mentioned on other unrelated threads but not seen anything that deals with this directly. so i figured i'd give it it's own thread (if that's ok...lol.)

I've noticed there seems to be quite a few people besides myself who all feel the same way. that it'd be nice if they made 18+ ONLY servers with a few less restrictions. like a little less prone to ban someone for giving their age, state they live in, an email address, that sort of thing. someplace we can actually play with people and KNOW for certain they're OUR age and have a conversation like adults without fear of being banned. we have to give our ages when we set up our accounts anyway. if people didn't want to be exposed to what was said on the adults only servers they could go to the regular "Pirates-Lite" and play the "G-rated" version. i mean we need a "PG" kind of thing...well you know what i'm getting at! hee hee hee...

like i said on another thread..i'll sign a waiver if i have to stating i'm playing at my own risk on a more open game.

i just think it's pretty crappy that they snoop through a private conversation between two people (i mean HELLOOOO what is the "whisper" feature for anyway???) doesn't whispering imply confidentiality? there's only supposed to be 2 people reading it! ...uh, the only people who are gonna be offended in a private convo are the people involved...right? (and i know i definately would not hesitate to report someone after asking them nicely to stop being a virtual jack-*****...) if it's "privately" said why do they flip out and say that something's "too personal"? then leave it to the people involved to take it upon themselves to report it!!

so i say make some adult servers then. problem solved.

i've said it before..the game already promotes gambling, drinking, killing/torture of lliving...and NOT so living (lol), talking to prostitutes, voodoo magic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...lol. i think it's being a bit hypocritical that we can't give out a yahoo id without being chastized and made to feel like a naughty 3rd grader being sent to time-out. my best friend of 17 years and i like to strategize but have to do it in yahoo half the time so we don't get banned.

that's another thing. what if it was someone you knew PERSONALLY -like as in the flesh so to speak. you're gonna get banned for telling your relative or best friend something they deem inappropriate???? that's just DUMB. There should be an "appeal" process to allow you the opportunity to plead or explain your actions or words. like letting them follow up and ask the other person involved what's going on maybe before they just ban you. can't they write and tell you that you're in risk of suspension because you said this or that and they're investigating it before final judgement is handed out. lol. i know it sounds a little dramatic, but it seems to be a bit more of a fair way to deal with it.

that's why i'm suggesting this here on it's own thread. anyone who feels the same way? i say let's all write to the Pirate People and see if we can maybe persuade them! heeheehee... "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!" <-hahahahaha....

Thanks for having a look guys!

Jade.:pirate6:

AMEN! I've thought of this too and agree fully! So i guess Bush's Patriot Act works for Disney too? they can monitor our whispers or conversations whenever they want? i want adult servers too. not cuz i wanna curse like a sailor, but i'm an adult and i want to be among other adults, and i dont want my chat to be censored.

Poairy SilverMoon 10-20-2008 08:28 AM

I agree to a point, if i want to swear or give someone I think is cool my e-mail I shouldn't be kicked off. I mean we pay for the game. But on the other hand it's a pretty cool environment to have to play with my little sibblings. I think it might be ok to have a sperate server for adults but who's going to want to monitor what goes on in those rooms??? I just think that if you verify that you're an adult you should be able to say certain things without getting kicked off and you shouldn't be able to say certain things to people that aren't of age.

Capt. Widowmaker 10-20-2008 09:46 PM

Reasons ...
 
Well some have asked for reasons why we want an adult server:

And just be on the safe side, i don't argue here wether it can be done or
if disney will involve themselves.

1. I am responsible in my friendship making with players: I have refused to be
a bf to an obvious girl that wanted me as one. But i want to friend people on
an adult server who i know are of right age, and who i know are adults.

2. I am playing another online game where it is completely allowed to share
e-mails. I have had friends in there also. If so - naturally only on an adult server.

3. I am from Denmark and find it interesting to have cyberfriends from other
countries ... experience, thoughts and perceptions can be shared.

4. As a mastered sailer and cannoneer i find it highly annoying (especially now
after new updates) that some level 2 to 7 kiddo joins because i forget to
deactivate public boarding.
Why ? Because ... while doing ship pvp or normal sailing they shoot at anything
that moves.

Yesterday i had two bad experiences:

A. I did some ship pvp and got meself a nice revenge sinking a bathtub that
gave me score of 5799 and a bounty of 5120. I normally prefer to sail alone
without crew since it gives minimal trouble.
I had a close to sink - hull damage - and have i had public access i would without
any doubt have had low level kids aboard that fired on computer ships which
CAN sink you before you have a chance to repair and even during a repair.

I have had situations where i had a high score and bounty, have been close to
sinking AND have had low level players aboard that simply found my instructions
or information indifferent.

B. In a situation before that i had my prime character sailing around solo and
sinking 50 ships in a row. There was mostly only one other ally (french side)
that had his ship LOADED with uncontrollable players that fire on the enemy,
ME and computer ships.
I read several times that he (first) asked nicely if they could stop shooting at me.
After several times his words became a bit sharp - still no positive response.
After 10 minutes i wrote him that i ignored his crew fire since they obviously
didn't care about him and what he was doing. And that i didn't blame him.
Normally it would make me turn side, launch as enemy and sink that player.

After one hour he was completely frustrated and it went actually on for two hours
where his crew showered me with cannonballs every time i came within range.

Is this so disturbing ? After all they can't damage me ? Yes it is - since when i hear
cannons being fired i am alert. It distracts many times since i have to turn view
and look at my six if an enemy is following.
Meanwhile enemies have several times engaged me from my 12 and damaged
me badly since i didn't have a clear view of how they closed in.

Ps to the above ... i have two times now written disney and requested an
implement where we either can plank unwanted players off the ship or in a
nicer and more polite way click a button that auto teleports unwanted and
uncontrollable players off ship and to their port of call.
As it is now my only chance is to sail to the most remote island (perdida), land
(lose score and bounty - and okay so what), maroon them and know that they
have to sail all the way back thru waters pestered with computer ships and
hope they learned a lesson.

5. AND it will be TOTALLY nice to get rid of ANY answering questions and helping
with plus mode set.

6. A little more adult verbalization of writings, could also be nice so you know you
don't risk offending players or Company D.

7. Yes it is a family game - but even in families - kids need to be without parent
supervison and parents need time without kids.
Kids need time with their own kind - as do we (well i do at least).
This way it could also give more enhanced game play - since you can chose to
play with own kind or more direct family related.

>

What is so terrible that we (adults) like to play family / kid games but also want
some things to work for our adult behaviour ?

MacIronhawk 10-21-2008 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Widowmaker (Post 84032)
Well some have asked for reasons why we want an adult server:

And just be on the safe side, i don't argue here wether it can be done or
if disney will involve themselves.

2. I am playing another online game where it is completely allowed to share
e-mails. I have had friends in there also. If so - naturally only on an adult server.

I agree with almost everything you posted except this one.
Why would a family based game(thanks Zep) make an adult server?
Why would they let them do that? How do they know adults wont let their kids go on the adult server and people give them out email addresses?

Profanity is one thing I bet you'd hear on the adult server. Why would anyone in their right mind want to hear that horrible grammer? It's not cool, in fact it makes you sound very dumb and ignorant.

Giving out email and other information is more dangerous than you think. Spam mail, etc...
It's dangerous giving out that information.

Capt. Widowmaker 10-23-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 84109)
I agree with almost everything you posted except this one.
Why would a family based game(thanks Zep) make an adult server?
Why would they let them do that? how do they know adults wont let their kids go on the adult server and people give them out email addresses?

Profanity is one thing I bet you'd hear on the adult server. Why would anyone in their right mind want to hear that horrible grammer? It's not cool, in fact it makes you sound very dumb and ignorant.

Giving out email and other information is more dangerous than you think. Spam mail, etc...
It's dangerous giving out that information.

Well i replied to this and used some sharp words, but no swearing or mocking.
Still ... it hasn't been approved so despite the words you use, maybe this will slip
through ... i will try to behave with some degree of patience.

*****

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 84109)
in fact it makes you sound very dumb and ignorant.

First i find it funny that words like this can slip through while my reply (still not
approved and less sharp than yours) hasn't ... ?

Strange ... but an open question to moderators.

*****

Second ... i also find it funny the way you behave and ... that you use words like this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 84109)
in fact it makes you sound very dumb and ignorant.

when you at the same time state the fact that you prefer to be without this kind of words or behaviour - smiles :
Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 84109)
Profanity is one thing I bet you'd hear on the adult
server. Why would anyone in their right mind want to hear that horrible grammer?

... so may i interprete your reply this way: That you wasn't really yourself or in right mind, when you replied ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 84109)
Why would anyone in their right mind want to hear that horrible grammer?

*****

Let's stick to the topic - shall we ? Instead of insulting each other !

Sarah 10-23-2008 05:07 PM

Yes, please let's stick to topic. This thread was created in hopes that the big D may come by and have a look, perhaps take some of our thoughts into consideration. I'm all for an open discussion of opinions, but keep it civil folks.

Capt. Widowmaker 10-24-2008 09:42 PM

We all have rights ...
 
In my eyes / world we all have the same rights and are equally valuable in our
own way - what makes the difference is the conditions offered to us.

No individual has any right to take away rights from any other individual
if we look at it in an ultimate way.

Society do - (if we commit criminal actas or if we violate i.e. rules in online
games) - but that's another story.

So no i am not such a valuable person / vip or a person with such great ego that
i have any rights to violate rights to have an opinion - on the contrary ...

disagreements / reforms and changes mostly make the world and i.e. the
mechanisms of online games change. That's why any opinion is valuable.

Back to the "between us" topic. I don't necessarily find people behind profanities
dumb or ignorant - for them the reason is legal. I have the right to decide
wether i find it worth listening to - and if not, well the option is ignore.

I guess if an adult server could be implemented and function (in theory) i surely
hope that an ignore function will be optional. And if so - i won't have any problems
with profanities - i can simply press the switch button and place them and their
writings on ignore. To me it's actually really simple.

>>> P.S. By horrible grammer I mean profanity. I wasn't talking about your post so
sorry if you misunderstood. <<<

Yes i actually did. I wasn't hurt or hit, but your words was to me a bit out of line
even considering the people i now understand you were talking about.
I don't have any proof, but it is possible that even Albert Einstein has used rare
profanities when some mathematics didn't showed the wanted result.

Shakes hand ...

>>> I think if disney wanted to put in an adult server it would have been made already.
Like Zep told me, it's a family based game. I don't think disney would make something
ONLY for adults. <<<

THIS is the first argument that points in the right anti direction of having an adult
server.
If so ... yes - then we have a reason already served on a silver platter. Could very
well be true.

To me it has become less desirable since i found (thanks Sarah) a work-around
the info and sharing e-mails. I simply write:

Seek and u shall find: I am me pirates online forums

Profanities ... even on family server - ignore

I only now need one game option (then i have no desire for an adult server):
That i can boot / plank / auto teleport an unwanted and uncontrollable player
aboard and off my ship.

>>> I don't think disney would make something ONLY for adults. <<<

Well they make games and stuff solely for kids so as long as it is in a disney spirit
why not for adults.

The movie Fantasia was later considered only for adults - it scared kids.

But i guess we are all age 13 to them LOL.

Hmm i guess i have stated my opinion and probably don't have more to this.

MacIronhawk 10-26-2008 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt. Widowmaker (Post 85303)
Profanities ... even on family server - ignore

Just going to point out(because I didn't fully understand what you ment. Sorry.) that yes people use profanity on POTCO.
Weather POTCO knows about it or not it has bee used.
I have seen people using the short forms of bad words and getting away with it if we aren't close enough to click on their pirate and report it.

The ignore button was put in the game for a good reason and I rarely have to use it but when there is a good reason I'll use it.

I don't like to here profanity in any sort of way(my opinion) and I do report people for using profanity in the game.
Adults should know better not to use it on an online game. Teenagers will either learn or they'll suffer the punishment once they get reported.

I WOULD agree to an adult server IF it was impossible to use bad language and give out personal information but....that wont happen soon.

I have reported the use of short form profanity and have gotten no reply and I don't think pirates will fix this soon or at any time. If they do then yes I think an adult server would be ok. I did say OK, meaning I would not like to see inappropriate things or see inappropriate things.
So, an adult server could be arranged but remember this is a family based game. I'm not saying I want an adult server but if we were going to get one I wouldn't go against it.

League 10-26-2008 02:44 AM

A thread wanting Adult servers with an un-adultlike title. I dunno: the things that only adults with childlike urges are supposed to look at are often looked at most by kids.

Of all the things to add, this ranks behind all of them.

Red Nations 10-30-2008 06:42 AM

I for one would be in favor of adult accounts and adult servers and removal of some of the restrictions for adult players such as the exchange of contact information.

I've been on the internet a long time and yes I am aware of the dangers presented anytime someone logs onto the internet. I've administered several websites and have always protected my members without having to treat them like children. Shortly after registering here I got an IM friend request from someone here who it turns out was an African scammer trying to get my POTC account login info probably for the purpose of ID theft. Yep I did report him and he got banned. Just using this as an example of the dangers inherent in being on line.

Adults should be able to discern these risks when it comes to exchanging contact info with friends in the game.
I'm not in favor of profanity on adult servers but I believe that they should loosen up the rules for adult players. The only practical way I see of doing this is through the use of separate servers.

Captain Jessie Hawk 11-02-2008 09:50 AM

I agree, I've also seen a great point that the adults are the ones who are paying for the game. If the adult is the one paying for it then you know what they must even trust their children on the internet. Adults aren't going to pay for it if they think their kids are going to go on there and start cyber dating with someone who plays the game. Taking away the freedom of the players makes the game less fun to play because you are to busy watching what you say.

Guess what watching what your saying can some times make it SO hard when you are trying to get someones attention.

There are a handful of adults who are unaware of how games work like this at times. So you saying Hey Kat Wildhawk want to join my crew? It may take them 2 or 3 seconds for it to click you mean them, once that clicks communication is simple. But people who are use to hearing their names will listen to their name. If it's Amanda and you can't say that in the game its self well now that just makes it harder. And for a group of people who are friends OUT side of this game and play together would refer to each other by their true names just to make their lives easier.

Yet with all these easy ways for the players to play the game, Disney is making it harder on them I believe you should either do one of two things, take away the lame ruling on information giving, or make an adult server. At least the adult server you know who is the one giving out the information and you don't need to smack their hand and say tsk tsk. Come on we are the Adults we don't need to be scolded!

Bartholomew Ironhound 11-23-2008 05:42 AM

i have a ton of adult friends in the game but i respect them if all kids would back off and respect the adults we would have no need for shuch a thing as a speacl chat but yes it is anoying when you can'nt tell your guild their web page i have one awnser for it ever see a + sign next to the chat box ?? click it and it turns said filter off

jason davy 01-24-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkScarlett (Post 35902)
I could not even type the word EAST which is a navigational term, i could not type the word commerce or Harley as in bikes or tap as in water for petes sake i tryed to address someone by thier Disney pirate name and it wouldn't allow Lighten up not all adults are foul mouthed spazoids

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS TO ME. of course, we've all learned to deal with it, but in a game of half or mostly adults, something seriously has to give. adult servers would be a dream come true... assuming we could say what we want. sheesh......

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Originally Posted by Bartholomew Ironhound (Post 95467)
i have a ton of adult friends in the game but i respect them if all kids would back off and respect the adults we would have no need for shuch a thing as a speacl chat but yes it is anoying when you can'nt tell your guild their web page i have one awnser for it ever see a + sign next to the chat box ?? click it and it turns said filter off

there are a ton of words that wont show up when the filter is off. considering that it is mostly adults on this thread, i think its pretty safe to say that 1- we KNOW what safe chat is and 2- we dont have it on.

Edward Edgemenace 01-24-2009 06:01 PM

Someone compared the Disney Pirates Online website to adult sites, above. Their point was that the adult sites have fairly reliable ways of discerning ages. I disagree with that comparison. From a legal standpoint, the Disney corporation is child-oriented. While their entertainment covers families, their target audience is still primarily minors. There is no way to compare Disney to an adult site: the target audience is different. That alone, prevents Disney from using the exact same methods as these sites.

As the game is set up now, it defends adults from false accusations and children from predators.

The notion of having adult-only POTCO servers, is as absurd as the notion of having an adult-only club open in the middle of Disneyland. Doesn't matter whether or not there is customer demand for it; the legalities of the situation prevent it.

League 01-24-2009 09:18 PM

I agree with Edward, or at least with what he posted above.

Edward Edgemenace 01-24-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by League (Post 111972)
I agree with Edward, or at least with what he posted above.

Funny, I'm not sure I agree with the watered-down edited version of my post. Typical for these forums, though. "Adult-only" does not convey what I wrote. *sigh*

Edit: Actually a pretty enormous difference between a normal "adult-only" establishment, such as a place that serves rum, that I was directly refuting.

Jade Macmorrigan 01-25-2009 08:23 AM

:buds:
well Walt Disney World USED to take adults into considderation..untill they closed down Pleasure Island last september. =(

always wanted to go to Disney World..and that was one of the many reasons! i heard Pleasure Island was pretty cool... guess that's out now!

this whole goodie goodie family friendly thing is starting to bum me out...lol...

ah well.:piratetongueor4:

Molly Ironbones 01-25-2009 08:56 AM

There are pros and cons to this subject. This is a family site. I understand as adults we need us time. However, I don't know about you, I am trying to promote and enjoying something with my kids that we can do together. My son is excited that he gets to play pirates with his mom. That is totally cool to him. Personally, and with what i have seen, Not all adults want to hear adult convo or swearing, either. It only adds to drama that we don't need or trying to avoid. We have enough in our own lives that we don't need to add more. We adults already have a gutter mind, should we really be adding more into the game?

Edward Edgemenace 01-25-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jade Macmorrigan (Post 112071)
:buds:
well Walt Disney World USED to take adults into considderation..untill they closed down Pleasure Island last september. =(

always wanted to go to Disney World..and that was one of the many reasons! i heard Pleasure Island was pretty cool... guess that's out now!

this whole goodie goodie family friendly thing is starting to bum me out...lol...

ah well.:piratetongueor4:

Well, the comparison I made in my post was not to a bar. Apparently, what I said, cannot be named here. As edited, my post above doesn't make much sense now, without that exotic analogy. (Well, the analogy wasn't exotic, the type of club named was.) The other edits to my post, means it still doesn't make sense.

Fabled 02-20-2009 01:54 AM

I totally agree.

swashbuckler II 02-20-2009 02:06 AM

I agree 110% Even though im not an adult, Adults should shoould get their own server(s)

Crazypirate 02-20-2009 03:10 AM

with the new chat features eliminating alot from "plus chat" is there really a need for adult servers now? And Pleasure island was very cool used to go alot when I was living in FL.

Rackat 02-24-2009 07:43 PM

I think there is still a lot of reason to have adult servers. The new chat feature only eliminated a portion of the need.

Some of these kids are more potty-mouthed than some of the guys I served with in the USN. But that doesn't mean they are mature enough to have an adult oriented conversation (not necessarily sexual, explicit, or otherwise lewd). I'd still like to have an ocean (server) where I "know" that the pirates are all over 18.

joere444 03-07-2009 03:13 PM

I totally agree! I may not be eighteen but I think while coming across this that noone my age can hold a conversation with me, and that would help the people who are like me who can hold a conversation with an adult. Half the people at my school dont like me because I want to talk about something other then hot girls, and cars. I like living life I dont like watching it, and if someone like the guy who posted this thread could help I totally agree. Thanks anyone who is like me, and agree's.

akamystic 03-07-2009 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rackat (Post 118577)
I think there is still a lot of reason to have adult servers. The new chat feature only eliminated a portion of the need.

Some of these kids are more potty-mouthed than some of the guys I served with in the USN. But that doesn't mean they are mature enough to have an adult oriented conversation (not necessarily sexual, explicit, or otherwise lewd). I'd still like to have an ocean (server) where I "know" that the pirates are all over 18.

True....but if they were to implement such a thing, how does adding something with the word "adult" attached reflect on the Disney name? I think Disney would take some serious HEAT for adding anything exclusive to adults. When you think Disney you typically think parks, toys and well.....kids. I agree there are teens and kids in the game that talk some serious trash which is completely uncalled for....but that is another story entirely.

:piratealt:

dancerdudes 03-13-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jade Macmorrigan (Post 34589)
i really hope this gets the attention of the admins of the game..i've seen other suggestions made that are now part of the game..so here goes...

ok so i've tried to search thru the threads here and i've seen this mentioned on other unrelated threads but not seen anything that deals with this directly. so i figured i'd give it it's own thread (if that's ok...lol.)

I've noticed there seems to be quite a few people besides myself who all feel the same way. that it'd be nice if they made 18+ ONLY servers with a few less restrictions. like a little less prone to ban someone for giving their age, state they live in, an email address, that sort of thing. someplace we can actually play with people and KNOW for certain they're OUR age and have a conversation like adults without fear of being banned. we have to give our ages when we set up our accounts anyway. if people didn't want to be exposed to what was said on the adults only servers they could go to the regular "Pirates-Lite" and play the "G-rated" version. i mean we need a "PG" kind of thing...well you know what i'm getting at! hee hee hee...

like i said on another thread..i'll sign a waiver if i have to stating i'm playing at my own risk on a more open game.

i just think it's pretty crappy that they snoop through a private conversation between two people (i mean HELLOOOO what is the "whisper" feature for anyway???) doesn't whispering imply confidentiality? there's only supposed to be 2 people reading it! ...uh, the only people who are gonna be offended in a private convo are the people involved...right? (and i know i definately would not hesitate to report someone after asking them nicely to stop being a virtual jack-*****...) if it's "privately" said why do they flip out and say that something's "too personal"? then leave it to the people involved to take it upon themselves to report it!!

so i say make some adult servers then. problem solved.

i've said it before..the game already promotes gambling, drinking, killing/torture of lliving...and NOT so living (lol), talking to prostitutes, voodoo magic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...lol. i think it's being a bit hypocritical that we can't give out a yahoo id without being chastized and made to feel like a naughty 3rd grader being sent to time-out. my best friend of 17 years and i like to strategize but have to do it in yahoo half the time so we don't get banned.

that's another thing. what if it was someone you knew PERSONALLY -like as in the flesh so to speak. you're gonna get banned for telling your relative or best friend something they deem inappropriate???? that's just DUMB. There should be an "appeal" process to allow you the opportunity to plead or explain your actions or words. like letting them follow up and ask the other person involved what's going on maybe before they just ban you. can't they write and tell you that you're in risk of suspension because you said this or that and they're investigating it before final judgement is handed out. lol. i know it sounds a little dramatic, but it seems to be a bit more of a fair way to deal with it.

that's why i'm suggesting this here on it's own thread. anyone who feels the same way? i say let's all write to the Pirate People and see if we can maybe persuade them! heeheehee... "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!" <-hahahahaha....

Thanks for having a look guys!

Jade.:pirate6:



DIsney... Adult..

Its like Disney making a rated R movie! Not going to happen and you can bet on it... and make it all Fabulous as you want it... but I know we just need to Work Thing Out,...

Stupid HSm songs that make sense when trying to make a point!

Maximvs 03-14-2009 12:40 AM

*offtoic*

Bit of history...

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Its like Disney making a rated R movie!
Disney though has made R rated movies.... though before 1985 it was their policy NOT to. When Disney was almost lost in a giant takeover bid attempt and saved by Roy Disney (and a series of close counterparts Michael Eisner and Stanley Gold) - they realised they (they being Disney the braind) could no longer sit on the side letting 20 year old movies, two outdated theme parks, and a creatative division just collect dust and expect this not to happen again.

One of their initatives was in their Movie division - and they actually approved the change and began the Release of R rated movies in 1986. (now I read this book almost 15 years ago on the whole Disney Empire being almost lost - so I'm a bit rusty... feel free though to use todays wonderful search technology to look up how Disney was almost Disney-No-More... :D )

MacIronhawk 03-14-2009 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximvs (Post 122173)
Disney though has made R rated movies.... though before 1985 it was their policy NOT to. When Disney was almost lost in a giant takeover bid attempt and saved by Roy Disney (and a series of close counterparts Michael Eisner and Stanley Gold) - they realised they (they being Disney the braind) could no longer sit on the side letting 20 year old movies, two outdated theme parks, and a creatative division just collect dust and expect this not to happen again.


Indirectly, yes, Disney has made R-rated movies.
While the company's never made a movie under the Disney name they have made R-rated movies under touchstone.

Here's an article quote.
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Touchstone Pictures, a film label that the Walt Disney Co. had all but abandoned, is coming back to life as the new distribution pipeline for Steven Spielberg's production company.

As expected, Walt Disney Studios and DreamWorks Studios, the latest incarnation of Spielberg's boutique filmmaking operation, said Monday that they had reached a distribution agreement after a collapse in talks between Spielberg and Universal Pictures, with whom DreamWorks had announced a new distribution deal just four months before.

Under the new agreement, Disney, via its Touchstone imprint, will distribute 30 DreamWorks films over five years. Disney will also handle DVD sales and distribution on Starz, the premium cable channel with which Disney has a long-term deal.

The news late last week that DreamWorks was parting from Universal so soon after striking that deal jolted the movie industry, becoming the latest sign that the climate for raising money in Hollywood was extremely difficult, even for someone named Spielberg.
The highest rating for a movie under the Disney name that I can find is Pirates of the Caribbean.

On Topic: I doubt an Adult Server will ever enter the game. If anything "adult server" related enters the game it will be the day Disney sold the game to another company.

am1974 03-18-2009 11:18 AM

Just play an adult type of game instead lol.

akamystic 03-18-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by am1974 (Post 123701)
Just play an adult type of game instead lol.

Well stated.....see my comments here:

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...?t=4451&page=9

Kaionai 04-12-2009 09:05 AM

You know what...this Thread is probably one of the longest threads in thie "IDEAS" area....I don't think disney is going to issue a Adults Server anytime soon....So I would stop battleing and getting your hopes up....and if they DID issue one....I HOPE THAT IT'S FROM SCRATCH! NEW ENGINE AND EVERYTHING! yap...with that so called inventory idea and item drops and all that good junk that there working on....NewSERVER WITH A NEW GAME.....

Bonnylass64 04-12-2009 01:18 PM

I am an adult and am not opposed to there being an "adult" server. But I for one don't go giving out my email addresses to people I'm talking with in an online game. How well do you know these guys anyway? I'm for more ability to have adult conversations and such, but I would not personally give out ID's and things like that unless it was to someone I knew in RL. Just my opinion.

Angel O`bones 04-12-2009 07:17 PM

Adults Only super thought
 
I am a grandma and have children and granchildren who play,
I love the GAME and would really like the possibility of 18+ game. There are times I would like to chat with other adults and not have to be with the kids listening , not that I say anything they could not hear but just for the grown_up aspect of it.
If Disney listens I sure hope many many of us tell them our thoughts
:bookishfj7:

Angel Wildpaine Founder 40
Angel O'bones Founder 30
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The Count 04-14-2009 01:39 PM

What u people dont understand THIS IS DISNEY WERE ARE TALKIN ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway this game was made specifically for kids (doesnt mean adults cant play too) and I do agree with not being able to say numbers,navagotional terms, and etc. But they do now let u say EAST.

MacIronhawk 05-08-2009 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Widowmaker (Post 79629)
Yes an adult server IS needed. After all we the adults prob. pay for most of the unlimited accounts.

Questions:

* How many times can an account be suspended before it possibly gets perma terminated ?

An adult server isn't needed. Talking to someone about real life isn't needed. Using numbers wouldn't be needed if quest speedchat phrases changed for how many enemies you need defeated instead of how many you started out with needing to be defeated.
Tell me again why you need to use numbers other than for talking about defeating enemies and/or rep?

Depending on how many times you've been suspended and why, your account can get a permanent ban in three suspensions or up to even ten.

There isn't a need for an adult server. This is a family based game and whatever you say to other adults in the game you should be able to say to the younger players. It'd be a waste of Disney's money and it would really put a big frown on their family based reputation.

If you want an adult server on POTCO ask yourself this, "What would Disney's reply be if I asked?"

jason davy 05-08-2009 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 136805)
An adult server isn't needed. Talking to someone about real life isn't needed. Using numbers wouldn't be needed if quest speedchat phrases changed for how many enemies you need defeated instead of how many you started out with needing to be defeated.
Tell me again why you need to use numbers other than for talking about defeating enemies and/or rep?

Talking about other stuff besides quests is a part of the game. If it wasn't, there would ONLY be speedchat.

Making friends and having conversations is an important part of the game to many of us. Without the ability to talk to my friends about what I CHOOSE, I probably would have quit long ago.

Dr. Zeppers 05-08-2009 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Count (Post 132252)
Anyway this game was made specifically for kids

This is not factual, and an assumption you have made, based on.. well I dont know what it was based on to be honest. Because its a Disney game?

If the game was made specifically for anything, it was made specifically for FAMILY. If it were made for kids, they would have had to remove alot of the content already in the game as some of the subject matter is not kid friendly. Think about it...

Who promotes gambling playing blackjack and poker to kids?
Who promotes kids making rum?

Have you taken a close look at the 'toons' in this game? Ever watch a girl pirates hips when they walk in the game? Have you read into the 100's of lines of story the slight innuedos suggesting adult subjects? (the thing here, is alot of kids just dont get them)

No, this is NOT designed strictly for kids.


No, sorry, you want a game made for kids that adults do play, try ToonTown.

Seems obvious to me that POTCO was designed to be enjoyed by the whole family. Adults that want to converse their adult talk while playing the game arent being adult enough to obtain easy to find alternatives that can work WITH the game (ie alternate chat/voice systems) allowing them to control their own communicative content.

Many guilds use voice servers these days, and they are cheaper than the game itself. Anyway, adult only servers just creates more logistic problems. I for one have younger friends I would like to continue to play with, and im sure there are many adult players that are in the same situation. We wouldnt want to have to make the choice of playing with our adult friends, or playing with our youthful friends. This also would simply encourage younger players to LIE about their ages, which already takes place as it is. No, adult only servers sound good to many, but it really hasnt been thought out by those that want them. If you want pursue adult behavior in your online gaming, play a game that allows it, and not a family based game.

Might as well start signing petitions for them to reshoot, and release an R/NC-17/X rated version of Pirates of the Caribbean movies... lol which makes no sense.

Kaionai 05-08-2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 136816)
This is not factual, and an assumption you have made, based on.. well I dont know what it was based on to be honest. Because its a Disney game?

If the game was made specifically for anything, it was made specifically for FAMILY. If it were made for kids, they would have had to remove alot of the content already in the game as some of the subject matter is not kid friendly. Think about it...

Who promotes gambling playing blackjack and poker to kids?
Who promotes kids making rum?

Have you taken a close look at the 'toons' in this game? Ever watch a girl pirates hips when they walk in the game? Have you read into the 100's of lines of story the slight innuedos suggesting adult subjects? (the thing here, is alot of kids just dont get them)

No, this is NOT designed strictly for kids.


No, sorry, you want a game made for kids that adults do play, try ToonTown.

Seems obvious to me that POTCO was designed to be enjoyed by the whole family. Adults that want to converse their adult talk while playing the game arent being adult enough to obtain easy to find alternatives that can work WITH the game (ie alternate chat/voice systems) allowing them to control their own communicative content.

Many guilds use voice servers these days, and they are cheaper than the game itself. Anyway, adult only servers just creates more logistic problems. I for one have younger friends I would like to continue to play with, and im sure there are many adult players that are in the same situation. We wouldnt want to have to make the choice of playing with our adult friends, or playing with our youthful friends. This also would simply encourage younger players to LIE about their ages, which already takes place as it is. No, adult only servers sound good to many, but it really hasnt been thought out by those that want them. If you want pursue adult behavior in your online gaming, play a game that allows it, and not a family based game.

Might as well start signing petitions for them to reshoot, and release an R/NC-17/X rated version of Pirates of the Caribbean movies... lol which makes no sense.

I think you just killed the thread right here dude...like you did with my thread...ALL HAIL ZEPPERS!! the master of negotiation!

this thread :45::45::45:

but in reality DANG!! 10 pages long and still no adult servers...what has it been? 2 years now? maybe??....time to bring this fight to the grog blog and support tickets!

Zeppers I can't give you a cookie so if your of legal age im going to you this :beer::beer: cheers man! well done!

Miss Hexsilver 05-08-2009 01:17 PM

That's a good idea and all, but anyone can sign up and say they're 18+. There are already many kids believe it or not ages 12 and under who make accounts, and pretend to be in their 20s just so they won't have the chat restrictions. The bans and restrictions are there to make this game a safe environment not only for kids but for everyone.

League 05-08-2009 01:39 PM

Kaionai, the reason the thread is so long is because alot of people don't want the idea implemented. Zep's lengthier paragraph in his last post in this thread sums it up practically perfectly.

jason davy 05-08-2009 08:26 PM

Looking over this thread again, I can sorta see both sides of this. Zep brings up a good point - I have friends of all ages that I definitely want to keep playing with. That being said, splitting servers is honestly the least of my concerns with the game right now. I usually play on a quiet server with a few friends anyway.

I do however stand by what I've been saying about the chat system needing some refinement.

MacIronhawk 05-08-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jason davy (Post 136809)
Talking about other stuff besides quests is a part of the game. If it wasn't, there would ONLY be speedchat.

Making friends and having conversations is an important part of the game to many of us. Without the ability to talk to my friends about what I CHOOSE, I probably would have quit long ago.

You don't and shouldn't have to talk about your personal life in a game. I certainly wouldn't want to talk about my real life in a game.

The Count 05-09-2009 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 136816)
This is not factual, and an assumption you have made, based on.. well I dont know what it was based on to be honest. Because its a Disney game?

If the game was made specifically for anything, it was made specifically for FAMILY. If it were made for kids, they would have had to remove alot of the content already in the game as some of the subject matter is not kid friendly. Think about it...

Who promotes gambling playing blackjack and poker to kids?
Who promotes kids making rum?

Have you taken a close look at the 'toons' in this game? Ever watch a girl pirates hips when they walk in the game? Have you read into the 100's of lines of story the slight innuedos suggesting adult subjects? (the thing here, is alot of kids just dont get them)

No, this is NOT designed strictly for kids.






No, sorry, you want a game made for kids that adults do play, try ToonTown.

Seems obvious to me that POTCO was designed to be enjoyed by the whole family. Adults that want to converse their adult talk while playing the game arent being adult enough to obtain easy to find alternatives that can work WITH the game (ie alternate chat/voice systems) allowing them to control their own communicative content.

Many guilds use voice servers these days, and they are cheaper than the game itself. Anyway, adult only servers just creates more logistic problems. I for one have younger friends I would like to continue to play with, and im sure there are many adult players that are in the same situation. We wouldnt want to have to make the choice of playing with our adult friends, or playing with our youthful friends. This also would simply encourage younger players to LIE about their ages, which already takes place as it is. No, adult only servers sound good to many, but it really hasnt been thought out by those that want them. If you want pursue adult behavior in your online gaming, play a game that allows it, and not a family based game.

Might as well start signing petitions for them to reshoot, and release an R/NC-17/X rated version of Pirates of the Caribbean movies... lol which makes no sense.

Ok first of all you need to change your perspective of what kids play.

Im only in my mid teens and I think a D average student in middle school can figure out alot of words in the game. Belive me kids play much worse game than this like Call Of Duty 4, Dead Space, and World Of Warcraft that shows blood and guts violence. As for saying that kids cant understand words in the game thats arrogant thinking because dont judge a book by its cover because like a said before alot of kids can understand what defeat means.

No offense to you im just saying you kinda have a wrong perspective of what kids cant understand and thinking that they still hang out at nick.com

Plus, the game is rated E10+ which means Yes, its desingned for kids and mid teens.

jason davy 05-09-2009 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 136916)
You don't and shouldn't have to talk about your personal life in a game. I certainly wouldn't want to talk about my real life in a game.

Discussing real life doesn't mean discussing PI. A friend was telling me yesterday about his son's baseball team doing well. Do you see a problem with that?

You have already stated elsewhere that

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Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 134103)
I go solo when it comes to POTCO. I play toontown so much I need to go solo on POTCO so I don't have to be around other players so much.

so with all due respect, no argument you may have regarding chatting in the game can be considered valid, in my opinion.


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Originally Posted by The Count (Post 136926)
Plus, the game is rated E10+ which means Yes, its desingned for kids and mid teens.

Not true, the rating means that it is SUITABLE for players 10+.


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