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Basil Dreadflint 07-31-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zeppers (Post 155894)
For the record, I think most adults think of teenagers as kids, fewer age 'groups' are usually considered.
LOL I call some of my 20ish year old friends "Kids".

Its not about age though, its about the behavior of the individual pirate regardless of age.

Heck, I'm so old that I think of anyone under 35 as a "kid"! LOL

MacIronhawk 07-31-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zeppers (Post 155894)
For the record, I think most adults think of teenagers as kids, fewer age 'groups' are usually considered.

I really didn't take that into consideration. I don't think that way, but I can see why others do.

But yes, don't give in game bullys the attention by reacting. I've noticed that's one of the worst things to do in the game. It usually ends in people saying worse things.

Eliza Creststeel 07-31-2009 06:51 PM

Mac,

Thank you for the bully point and that is why I asked for the feedback. Once a few others arrived, I made it plain in Guild Chat to not whisper to them or argue.

About a year ago, it seemed like there was always issues between guilds and often times in my old outfit we had to make a show of force because another group singled one of us out.

But, in the end - I made the wrong choice in this case and in future will be refraining from giving anything but Eliza's smiling disposition.

Molly Killspinner 07-31-2009 11:46 PM

I use the ignore thing it works too And most of the time i am on the Quite servers be cause of that most of the ppl that play the game tend to stick around on the A servers so i am glad they stay there the only time i go is to hop on to ships to get gold lol.

Some of the things i seen tend to stick out like a sore thumb in some case's if you see a bounch of other players being rude to another for no reason i would leave it alone or report the ones that are be rude or just Tp to another servers hopeing they dont follow you.

I had a few players follow me around i got tired of it if they start doing that Then tell them you are going to report them and if they dont stop then report that's what i do.

I really dont like to report people but if it comes down to be rude to me i will.

Because what i said before it does bring the fun of the game down a notch there where a few times i got so annoyed with this stuff that i stoped playing for a week
It was getting out of hand like the Bad mouthed others.

And i mean this too it's just a game!!!!!

Rule one of the Pirate Code!!!! Choose your friends Wisely:buds:

Angel Seafish 11-30-2009 05:45 AM

If you remember the name of the player, report it strait to Diseny. They need to know about it so it doesnt happen in the future. Doesn't matter if they were just kids. Even if they were kids they still did something wrong, and kids, adults, and teens have the same rights and wrongs. Just report it and move on. That is all.

Captain 11-30-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eliza Creststeel (Post 155842)
One replied - SHUT UP, ELIZA. I walked back and asked what? He repeated it.

Now, here is my question... When this happened - should I have let it go?

I know they were probably just kids, etc. But, I didn't let it go. I posted an all points and over a dozen of my guildies TP'ed in. With that, I told the rude little ragamuffins that there was good reason why they won't find a guild who would want them. I asked that no one fight with them, just make the point and go.

Wow, were you seriously upset by that? However do you survive in the real world?

The Skirata Clan 12-01-2009 12:56 AM

Captain,

Keep in mind that this is only part of the story, we don't know the backstory or the real problem. Also, what might upset some might not upset others. But all the solutions given are good.

Maximvs 12-01-2009 01:09 AM

Agreed TSC - even the most savvy pirate's nerves can be frayed at a rare time :)

And yes, many times I would of just reported and moved on without a word said - but there was one time I dodn't and had 15 others TP in... and they TP'ed right out :) Though I see Macs point of becoming the bully I look at it as defending - they were the bullys - I put an end to it (maybe not for long or changed them in any way - but not there on that day :) )

So don't feel bad about it Eliza - chalk it up to a "pause moment", next time report and TP away always remembering the one time you did stick around (with a hidden grin ;) )

Dr. Zeppers 12-01-2009 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel Seafish (Post 181534)
If you remember the name of the player, report it strait to Diseny. They need to know about it so it doesnt happen in the future.

If you cannot report them from within the game, chances are your report will be ignored. Names are not unique enough in the POTCO game to act upon them. A direct report within the game however... thats the ticket.

Cannonfury 12-01-2009 04:41 AM

Next time challenge them to pvp...Thats what I would do lol

Angel Seafish 12-01-2009 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Zeppers (Post 181735)
If you cannot report them from within the game, chances are your report will be ignored. Names are not unique enough in the POTCO game to act upon them. A direct report within the game however... thats the ticket.

Ah but you see, there are some names you can just never forget. And if you can remember the date and time that would really help. Reporting from the in-game has seemed pointless. I wish they would send a little note saying like Disney staff has read your report. We are currently investigating what happened. Then they would say Thanks for the report. We have taken care of the player. Have a nice day. Or say to just ignore them.

This would make me feel a little bit more secure in the game knowing that Disney actually looks at your report. I remember in VMK they did that. But after you got done reporting it showed that they looked at it and then told you thanks.

Dr. Zeppers 12-01-2009 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel Seafish (Post 181768)
Ah but you see, there are some names you can just never forget. And if you can remember the date and time that would really help. Reporting from the in-game has seemed pointless. I wish they would send a little note saying like Disney staff has read your report. We are currently investigating what happened. Then they would say Thanks for the report. We have taken care of the player. Have a nice day. Or say to just ignore them.

This would make me feel a little bit more secure in the game knowing that Disney actually looks at your report. I remember in VMK they did that. But after you got done reporting it showed that they looked at it and then told you thanks.

I understand, but wether you remember the name or not, its not definitive enough for them to take action. A report from within the game tags the user account that is being reported... leaves no doubt. Wether you feel more comfortable with just reporting their name or not, in game reports are acted upon, whereas externally presented 'reports' are not. Many names are repeated (the game ALLOWS duplicate pirate names), could be spelled slightly differently, mispelled etc. They are not going to act upon someone's manual report for these reasons, people also lie for who knows what reasons. Reporting from within the game also timestamps things, etc, and allows them to find the exact chat logs pertaining to the incident. Otherwise, there is no way for them to be sure, or to verify the reported "incident".

I like your response idea, but a manually sent report is unlikely to be acted upon regardless of the number of emails you sent them.

Time/place etc of the incident seems helpful, but being a DBA myself, I know the database more than likely only shows where a pirate last was (and perhaps where they entered), not every single place theyve been, so times and places are not going to help pinpoint much of anything.

Main reason I responded, is because I know that a manual report falls upon deaf ears for those reasons (this subject has been discussed before). Felt it best to recommend people report from within the game.

Midhav 12-01-2009 11:18 AM

JC, i think you should have just left them, but reported them, because as Mac said, ur just giving in by lecturing or paying attention to them....

Nelly Darkpaine 12-01-2009 04:50 PM

Yeah, but you accomplish nothing by telling them and leaving. Then they think they ran you off.
I refuse to back down when someone starts in on me. I had a rude guy the other day make comments to my pirate Nelly because of her green hair. He just got ruder and ruder as it went on.

I made a few choice comments, classy, but put him in his place. He then 'apologized' and explained it was just his sense of humor and continued to be rude. The good Captain Druidblade TP'd over, and told him he shouldn't talk to a lady as such - and, was actually 'quietly intimidating' and didn't get into petty things with him, but certainly made an impression!!

This guy before was admittedly out of high school and going into the military (We heard him running his mouth before) With his manners, hes an embarassment, IMO. This was one horrible mannered KID.

A pet peeve is when people say 'Shut Up' or 'Leave'.... totally rude, and Im so TOTALLY going to do the opposite.

Eliza Creststeel 12-01-2009 05:08 PM

Wow. Why did this issue suddenly come back from the dead?

I have since implemented responses to such issues and we primarily ignore such behavior in the future. Still, I thank those who took time to give advice and helpful ideas.


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