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Edward Edgemenace 01-16-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferrex The Scurvy (Post 44371)
King in its common usage does generally refer to male monarchs. But the origins of the word and its usage are not really gender specific, at least according to the Online Etymology Dictionary:

king

O.E. cyning, from P.Gmc. *kuninggaz (cf. Du. koning, O.H.G. kuning, O.N. konungr, Dan. konge, Ger. könig). Possibly related to O.E. cynn "family, race" (see kin), making a king originally a "leader of the people;" or from a related root suggesting "noble birth," making a king originally "one who descended from noble birth." The sociological and ideological implications make this a topic of much debate. Finnish kuningas "king," O.C.S. kunegu "prince" (Rus. knyaz, Boh. knez), Lith. kunigas "clergyman" are loans from Gmc. In O.E., used for names of chiefs of Anglian and Saxon tribes or clans, then of the states they founded. Also extended to British and Danish chiefs they fought. The chess piece so called from 1411; the playing card from 1563; use in checkers/draughts first recorded 1820. Applied in nature to species deemed remarkably big or dominant (e.g. king crab, 1698),

That refers to the fictional "proto" Germanic languages and Old High German. In English, a "Reigning Queen" is a femal leader of a people.

Note that "proto" languages, are all imaginary. Linguist try to run a complete circle by theorizing what spoken language hundreds or thousands of years ago, was, then call it "proto-whatever." Which is to say, complete fiction, at best.

Tuefenhandel 01-19-2009 10:48 PM

King??? I didn't vote for (her)!!!

Help, help - I'm being repressed!!!

The right to govern is derived from the consent of the people.....


- Can anyone name the movie?

lostmymarbles 01-20-2009 12:03 PM

lol.... drink enough rum and who cares what she was called.

ilikepurpleyogurt 01-24-2009 06:49 PM

King or Lord?
 
I thought she was chosen as a Pirate Lord...not pirate king? Besides...she wasn't the first femail pirate lord...remember?

Dr. Zeppers 01-24-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikepurpleyogurt (Post 111939)
I thought she was chosen as a Pirate Lord...not pirate king? Besides...she wasn't the first femail pirate lord...remember?

In the interests of remind all of that portion of the original storyline...

Sao Feng passed his "Piece O Eight" to Elizabeth just before he died. This granted her the title of "Pirate Lord". Later in Pirate Council, a vote was held between all the pirate lords to determine the pirate king. Usually the vote would always be a stalemate as each would vote for themselves. This time however Captain Jack shocked everyone and voted for Elizabeth Swann. This made Elizabeth Swann "Pirate King" as she had the most votes, hers and Jacks.

So... per the storyline, Elizabeth Swann is Pirate King! (Wether King be the appropriate title or not, it was in the script as "King")

League 01-24-2009 09:37 PM

It was a joke in all accounts: remember, all were supposed to vote for themselves. Jack, who happened to be last, just determined the vote. As well, a piece of eight was just some novelty item, or an eye...
Quote:

King??? I didn't vote for (her)!!!

Help, help - I'm being repressed!!!

The right to govern is derived from the consent of the people.....


- Can anyone name the movie?
Yes, Monty Python's Holy Grail movie: I didn't see it, but I know I saw that part on Youtube.


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