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Mr. Skiperdoo 09-23-2011 10:50 PM

Travel through a black hole? But its an ultra dense gravity field attracting objects faster than the speed of light. Event horizons, lookz it up.

So let me get this straight: What you're trying to say is that there is no real line of time that the entire multiverse runs on? That time is effectively just the individual areas of progression attained in certain realms? How could anyone know such a thing? How would somebody learn about things never experienced, or something that continues to show its effects? This is why I don't really believe these realms have any basis on reality, because there's no way to show its not just a human concept.

Also, nobody really "knows" any of the laws of physics perfectly. Everything we observe isn't exactly as we percieve it. Sure some things might be generally close, but the laws of physics aren't exactly concrete postulates. So what if another realm was discovered? How would it be discovered? How could we ever experience different realms ourselves?

Davy_Mcwrecker 09-23-2011 11:37 PM

Why?!?!? Why can't we just agree that we weould all like an R2-D2 robot and get along?

toanuju22 09-24-2011 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Skiperdoo (Post 349354)
Travel through a black hole? But its an ultra dense gravity field attracting objects faster than the speed of light. Event horizons, lookz it up.

Theoretically, or maybe in the future we discover Anti Gravity Materials/Laws. Another way to say this would be travel through a wormhole.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Skiperdoo (Post 349354)
So let me get this straight: What you're trying to say is that there is no real line of time that the entire multiverse runs on? That time is effectively just the individual areas of progression attained in certain realms? How could anyone know such a thing?

If we follow this one Statement; Take 2 Points in time, constantly devise the distance between them- Time is Infinite or the Illusion of it. An Infinite Existence has both it's Past, Present and Future Existing all at once. What this allows is the Principle of Time Travel, which Physics allows. These Realms could easiest be described as a Music Playlist, they can exist in order, however when one presses "Play" they follow a certain order. Except it never started, it just is on a continuous loop.

We don't know it, however as I've stated it's a great way to explain everything without saying "GOD!".

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Originally Posted by Mr. Skiperdoo (Post 349354)
How would somebody learn about things never experienced, or something that continues to show its effects? This is why I don't really believe these realms have any basis on reality, because there's no way to show its not just a human concept.

We've all experienced them, we call it "Time"...

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Originally Posted by Mr. Skiperdoo (Post 349354)
Also, nobody really "knows" any of the laws of physics perfectly. Everything we observe isn't exactly as we perceive it. Sure some things might be generally close, but the laws of physics aren't exactly concrete postulates. So what if another realm was discovered? How would it be discovered? How could we ever experience different realms ourselves?

I just explained the Possibility to Witness a Realm.
Another Possibility could be a Zero G, Absolute Zero, Vacuum, as we generally find all extremes here.

Past that if we want anything to work. We take the laws of Physics as an Indefinite Truth, never flawed.


Nuju-

The Skirata Clan 09-24-2011 02:42 AM

So time does exist. You have said it in your third quote response to Skip.

Davy_Mcwrecker 09-24-2011 03:30 AM

Wow. Skip has gone SO indepth that he has done something to mix the concepts(??? Still trying to figure out what his first post means...) and twist it so the only answer is the answer he beleives.
THAT is deep!


~Davy_Mcwrecker

toanuju22 09-24-2011 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy_Mcwrecker (Post 349394)
Wow. Skip has gone SO indepth that he has done something to mix the concepts(??? Still trying to figure out what his first post means...) and twist it so the only answer is the answer he beleives.
THAT is deep!


~Davy_Mcwrecker

Large Fonts are painful to read with everything else in context...

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Originally Posted by The Skirata Clan (Post 349384)
So time does exist. You have said it in your third quote response to Skip.

It's difficult in a discussion where one is claiming time is a Illusion not mention the word.

Nuju-

Mr. Skiperdoo 09-24-2011 02:17 PM

Wierd, an absence of things = nothing? Can nothing exist? Does everything have to be connected into realms? I think some of this may have gotten out of hand, so let me simplify.

What I basically envision time as is something that doesn't technically exist only in the physical world. It is more of a metaphysical signature that our brains percieve through the progress of events.

In reality, time is out of reach, no one can claim to capture time or perfectly examine it directly. Time is something we really see the effects of. I understand what you mean by time is basically an illusion. In the laws of the universe, time might not really exist in the sense we believe it does; but instead its really what we think about the rate of progression in the universe.

Please understand that even things that have been called "scientific laws" for hundreds of years have been disproven as technology grows. Even things now we might see as perfectly true may be falsified in the future.

So I'm just wondering, why would you use examples such as ones given by a guy named Sir Isaac Newton, who was a strong believer in universal time?

I know the context may sound confusing, but isn't language? Have you ever explored the complex depths of language? Have you ever seen how the brain processes words through thought? Does anyone know? Of course. Does anyone know how it happens? Not really, only a few people at most. So I ask you: Who are you to know all about these mystical realms that continuously evade the eyes of scientists everywhere?


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