They didn't fix the undead glitch, do you mean the pvp one? I just did that zombie pvp thing today

I think it's hard to take a moral stand on glitches. The problem with many of these games is you have to be prepared to endure a lot of tedium to get your character to the point where you can do some of the entertaining things the game offers.

Eduring tedium in a product that's supposed to supply entertainment doesnt really make sense. It's a sign of poor game design. For most people the storyline and quests are what make things interesting. Sitting in some fort hacking away at dozens of enemies to get your weapon to a certain level only appeals to a small minority of players IMO. It would be like buying an entertainment product where you have to sit through 3 seasons of I Love Lucy reruns before you got a chance to see the contemporary shows you really like... Only gamers will go for this kind of thing.

People look for a way around it because they want to get to the fun part. After all they bought the product to have fun.

I personally feel this is out of line. If you feel this strongly about it maybe the Pirates game is really not for you. How exactly is a glitching person a direct attack on you personally. The vast majority of them out there have not nor will ever come into contact with you when you are playing. The other thing is, there's no contest or big prize to win from the company for lvling up fast so what really is the issue here?

If anything the ppl in a rush to lvl up are the ppl in a rush to sit around and twiddle their thumbs unless they have PVP in mind. To each their own. If someone wants to glitch and it is not affecting me, who cares. Once you have finished the story and side quests, what else is there to do but find glitches to entertain yourself? Sure you can start another pirate. The repetition gets boring tho. I finished my first pirate the hard way. I'll be the first to admit to being in a rush and a major glitch user for my second, and that's only because I want to PVP her and have my skills allocations all mapped out. The sooner she's finished the sooner I can PVP with her and have some fun until the next story chapter comes out. What diff does it make if the skill comes from glitch training or regular training. In the end I'll still have the same skills either way. If they allowed you to reallocate your skill points, I would just do it with the first and not bother with any additional pirates.

I have played hide n seek in the empty kings glitch more times than I can count. I'm not gaining rep. I'm not stopping you from gaining rep or anything else so why should I be penalized for that. All I'm doing is hiding waiting to be found.

Good luck in your pursuit of prosecution without mercy. If I were Disney I'd just give you a full refund and send you on your way.

To tell you the truth, glitches can be fun, but, you need to know a time when it's necessary to stop them. Though, if you have all the missions and stuff, you may not want to try some out, though, I don't really take favor to them.

Wow, this got dug out of the basement :D Ok.... first, ya gotta know Jim a bit before going on with one of his posts... you gotta read more in-depth than the surface.

Jim has a valid point - and you need to read other posts to put it together. If you and I (which I am no means innocent, I don't use glitches often, but do know a few and have used them) proceed to use glitches and others don't / do not get the chance to - the value of what they pay for vs. what we pay - is - different.

If for example we lose a weapon ability tomorrow and it becomes harder because of it - is this fair? What if only 1/2 the people lose the ability - and you are on the losing half... now do you complain?

There is a value - its just deeper to realise than just 'looking at using a glitch' :)

Well posts in this thread answer this - those using such glitches are Leveling Gernades at a much faster rate than what was intended - and then using that as an advantage in PvP. this lowers the Quality of PvP now because those who don't get to know / use glitches don't get the same value for their time.

Agreed... ONCE you finish then Glitches are an entertaining way to amuse the time. And I agree, if the glitch isn't directly affecting me I usually just go on my way. Jim's point though is that it 'undermines the value' many pay / will be paying in the future... that is the unfair part - it hurts your wallet :)

So now you admit to the true purpose - to also take advantage of PvP like others have... see? This is why I and many others don't play.

Now its a catch-22... because if you don't do it your at a dis-advantage in PvP because other have now done it and its the only way to 'keep up', but if you DO do it then you become one of the one to 'keep up to' LOL So do I have any 'negatative' reaction to you doing this? No. Because to enjoy that aspect of the game (PvP) your only doing whats needed to be competitive - but it is unfortunate that you have to do so.

Time... its all about the time - not just in-game, but paying out of pocket :) If you glitch and take 1 month to max, and I dont glitch and take two... I just got ripped off a month (hence - the value of my gaming experience goes down...)

If the thread was 'Using Glitches to play Hide-n-Seek...' this would be a different thread :)

Well - they didn't have to. As I mentioned at the beginning... ya kinda dug this out of the basement, and Jim has moved on to bigger roles :) His points - though sometimes mixed in a 'sea of theroy' - are valid.

In this case, the bigger picture is required instead of just posting "glitches don't hurt you" - because directly they don't - but they do :)

Try and prevent from glitching, you may lose your account for three days, I know I did, and I think I'm done with the skeleton glitch.

There are good posts on leveling, check them out and use them. One really good one is on the nades level. Standing behind the post and drawing the Navy to you will take some time (and it can be boring) but you will level pretty quick.

I'm all for what Harukantos said, there's a 99.999% chance I got banned for using a similar glitch. So as a warning, if you people want to get The Ban, just use glitches.

I'm done with all glitches by the way.

OK I will apologize for being offended by Jim's post, but I will maintain my opinion and not agree :mickeypiratezd4:

I only mentioned the empty king glitch because his post implied all glitchers should be punished and the empty king glitch is by all means - a glitch.

Dropping the subject :laughks2:

No problem Cheleszoo, I myself am one of 'A Glitch for fun is no glitch at all - its a Easter Egg' :D

Many glitches do harm in one way or another - either in Value (others feel jipped and others feel superior), Playability (others won't play features because they have become instable buy those using Glitches such as PvP), Instability (Servers / Code Crashing due to End Loops).

Many don't look this far into it though.. just the surface answer of "Glitching isnt hurting you", but really - it does, not just me but you (nothing like getting kicked off a server just when I'm about to doc with 8 Royals..., nothing like my all my Video Card issues because of 'Glitches', I could keep going - but then I'd becoem Jim and there's only ONE Jim LOL :D )

And just a note... it does apppear Bans are now being heavily handed out now for Glitch usage - the days of using 'heavy glitches' are about to come to an end I believe... (or at least somewhat reduced ;) )

This I don't get.

Their rules talk about third party stuff/modding code type stuff. Punishing someone for exploiting flaws that exist in their game seems like an incredibly half...hearted (:laughks2:) attempt at stopping people.

If they don't want people to glitch, it needs to be in the rules (stated clearly...), and they need to fix them.

They also need to make nades not so stupid. :piratetongueor4:


ETA: I went ahead and e-mailed Big D asking about suspending glitchers...we'll see what they say. :)

Agreed. Instead of punishing glitch users, fix the glitches. That's the only way the playing field will ever be level. Otherwise some people know about glitches and some don't. Some who know use the glitches, thus gaining a theoretical advantage. Some of these glitches go way back, perhaps even to the launch of the game, yet remain unfixed.

I agree... I'm just quoting what I see going on around me - so peeps can start watching out for themselves :)

Let us know if you get a response :D

Well, so far the response from Big D is, "We don't know." :laughks2:

Update - glitching is officially NOT against the rules. Big D said so.


They also said you will always be told what the violation was, so if you got suspended and don't know why, check your e-mail. :)