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MacIronhawk 06-13-2009 08:05 PM

Jason, I'm guessing the day you start paying for the game again might be the second story quest. I know I'll stop paying for the game if my subcription ends before any 'good' content comes out.

Also, nice post Jason. What I feel I need to do is keep paying for the game and keep playing. We all think different thoughts. If we can realize that then I think posting what we "should" do is a waste of time. While some members will protest by not paying others will just keep on playing. The only real thing we can do is to wait for new content. Nothing we do is going to bring in the content faster. How can complaining to the devs bring in anything? If anything it makes them stop what they're doing to see what we're complaining about.

I don't know about you guys but a lot of our(my) posts seem repetitive. What can we do to get their attention? Maybe walking down into burbank and grabbing the devs by their shirts and shaking them up a bit will get their attention.

Jack Sharkbane 06-14-2009 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximvs (Post 141549)
We are all as pirates between a rock and a hard place thats for sure... we're surrounded by the "D Navy and EITC Scum", we're losing pirates like there's no tomorrow, things look bleak for sure...

But...

This is when true pirates are supposed to shine through at their best! This is when pirates dig deep within their souls and they grab that last ounce of determination and rise to the challenge! We may be down - be we are not out! :D

Our efforts have been bits and pieces - but it is time for all of us to take the last stand and fight as one! Don't let what was and can still be a great game go down with the ship!

1) As Sarah has mentioned above, if your cancelling your subscription or leaving the game - don't just say gooodbye here - first go to their Grob Blog Link For The Latest Changes and fill in your thoughts! Then once you've done that - go right to their Contact Us Pages and send in your thoughts there as well! Every pirate here should be doing it! We've all done it in bits and pieces before... but its time for ALL to put the pressure on now!

2) Its time everyone to use the Report a Bug issues in game and make our stand in the game that we have had enough! They tried to hide it, but every player in game when you first log in should push their F7 Key on the keyboard - then click the Report a problem! EVERYTIME! Don't start doing a single thing until you report at least one issue today! They cannot ignore 1000's of daily report problems if every player out theri took 30 seconds when they first log in and submitted an issue - even if you submit the same on everyday! Tell them that you want PvP and SvS changes! Tell them you want cloaked ships fixed! Tell them something every day you log in!

3) It is time for Guilds to put aside their petty difference! The main cause for such problems is because of lack of content, as before everything ran out I remember many guilds were as one! It is time to act as one again! Make friends with others in other guilds - so you will always have friends in game which you can contact or play with. Just because they are not in your guild - doesn't me we are not all pirates!

It is in these dark times we stand together as one - as if we are going down we will go down as one and not be picked off one-by-one, guild-by-guild...

Stand up! Be accounted!

BE A PIRATE! ARRG! :D

absolutly, max. and, yeah, guilds should put aside their fights, and feuds between players should stop. but it ends there. look at it, we boycott it, we be pirates, oh, look, a dilema here. if we boycott, we aint pirates no more. my solution? go up to HQ, live. no more auto emails, you should speak with them face to face. BUT, heres the other side of the issue. ECONOMY, guys, ECONOMY. tough times, and Disney has gotta cut back. the game is losing player, Ha! the designers are losing jobs!!! its not lazyness, its RL issues!!!

Cannonfury 06-14-2009 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sharkbane (Post 142878)
absolutly, max. and, yeah, guilds should put aside their fights, and feuds between players should stop.


I wish they would but unfortunately people get so caught up in hating someone they cannot see through that hate that they have even if they are wrong.

anndreeuhh 06-14-2009 03:12 AM

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We are all as pirates between a rock and a hard place thats for sure... we're surrounded by the "D Navy and EITC Scum", we're losing pirates like there's no tomorrow, things look bleak for sure...

But...

This is when true pirates are supposed to shine through at their best! This is when pirates dig deep within their souls and they grab that last ounce of determination and rise to the challenge! We may be down - be we are not out!

Our efforts have been bits and pieces - but it is time for all of us to take the last stand and fight as one! Don't let what was and can still be a great game go down with the ship!

1) As Sarah has mentioned above, if your cancelling your subscription or leaving the game - don't just say gooodbye here - first go to their Grob Blog Link For The Latest Changes and fill in your thoughts! Then once you've done that - go right to their Contact Us Pages and send in your thoughts there as well! Every pirate here should be doing it! We've all done it in bits and pieces before... but its time for ALL to put the pressure on now!

2) Its time everyone to use the Report a Bug issues in game and make our stand in the game that we have had enough! They tried to hide it, but every player in game when you first log in should push their F7 Key on the keyboard - then click the Report a problem! EVERYTIME! Don't start doing a single thing until you report at least one issue today! They cannot ignore 1000's of daily report problems if every player out theri took 30 seconds when they first log in and submitted an issue - even if you submit the same on everyday! Tell them that you want PvP and SvS changes! Tell them you want cloaked ships fixed! Tell them something every day you log in!
Agreed! Until you get to going to Disney....

This is one of those things that you really don't know what its like until you're going through it. I was playing POTCO for well over a year and really, nothing has changed since that time. After mastering my first pirate within a few months, there isn't anything else left to do. A few things were added and a few minor improvements were made but really, its things that can be done in a month and things that lose their shine in a matter of weeks.

I still see bugs, glitches and exploits that are in the game that were around a year and a half ago. If they were there then and they are still there now even after so many bug reports sent in, even after so many e-mails sent in.... there is only so much we can do as players in this game. If Disney doesn't want to fix it, WHAT CAN WE DO?

Back when the new Port Royal came out, I came to find out that I had a chat glitch, along with another member on here, where if someone wasn't on our friends list we couldn't see what they were saying. All that was seen was "arrr," "yarrr," or "garrr." I sent in a countless number of bug reports, and a countless number of e-mails, and they had NEVER fixed it. The only workaround that I found for it was linked accounts. They ruined my fun I was having on the game and they made it seem like it was my fault that I had this new chat bug.

Going to Disney may help somewhat but it won't bring back those of us that quit. Compared to ALL of the other MMO's out there POTCO is lacking content BIG TIME. POTCO really was a great game, and it had potential but the devs are wasting their time focusing on new players coming to the game instead of taking the time to keep their long time players busy. The update that removed the linked accounts ruined the game for many and was the final straw.

I think it was Mr. Barty Foul himself that said this is what we asked for. Umm no it wasn't. We asked for a fix to get these little brats removed from the game for good. We did NOT ask for Disney to take away access from hundreds of families. Linked accounts were useful in getting one family all online at one time with ONE account. Disney is doing the best that they can to get more money from their players. A true sign that even that billion dollar company may be suffering in this economy. I still stand by my decision to quit the game and I'm sure I did many players a favor in doing so too ;)

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3) It is time for Guilds to put aside their petty difference! The main cause for such problems is because of lack of content, as before everything ran out I remember many guilds were as one! It is time to act as one again! Make friends with others in other guilds - so you will always have friends in game which you can contact or play with. Just because they are not in your guild - doesn't me we are not all pirates!
Speaking from experience, guild fueds can't just be dropped. All good things must come to an end and its a good thing that certain fights come about. You learn that your friends aren't really your friends when you need them. Guilds have been against guilds since I started playing a year ago. If it was there then it will be there now and it will be worse now. Guilds aren't what they used to be and these guildmasters (not ALL of them, just a select few ;)) aren't the greatest either. If that's from a lack of content in the game then that's a downright shame.

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It is in these dark times we stand together as one - as if we are going down we will go down as one and not be picked off one-by-one, guild-by-guild...
Actions speak louder than words. It's easy to say, "Alright gang lets all stand together and fight em," but its not the same to actually do it.

If quitting is the only way to get a point across to Disney, then so be it. Even if they come out with a fix their long time players that they lost will not come back. They've done the best they can, in their eyes, well then I'm sure the rest of us that quit agree that we did the best that we can waiting when we shouldn't have to be. When I cancelled my account I sent in an e-mail. Its nearly two weeks later and I still have not heard a reply. If they don't care about a chat bug that they didn't bother fixing, and they didn't care about another player of many that was quitting, why should I or any of you for that matter care about them and their game?

Nelly Darkpaine 06-14-2009 03:19 AM

Theres so many kids on Abassa Id LOVE to take down a few notches with some carefully worded verbal cut downs, particularly when they gang up and pick on one person or another... I did it once with a girl who was notorious for picking on other girls - she ran off, and then tried to continually friend me. I declined every time.

But, I dont want a ban, and I keep remembering that 90% of them are kids, likely who are picked on themselves or have seriously low self esteem. I mean, someone with a normal attitude doesn't need to pick on others to make themselves feel good.

This game SHOULD and NEEDS to be a safe place for players. This means reporting people who pick on others. Reporting bad language, reporting bullies.

But then, my faith in Disneys interest in it being a family game is shaken. I think their concern is the all mighty dollar. We players come AFTER profit.

anndreeuhh 06-14-2009 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nelly Darkpaine (Post 142892)

This game SHOULD and NEEDS to be a safe place for players. This means reporting people who pick on others. Reporting bad language, reporting bullies.

But then, my faith in Disneys interest in it being a family game is shaken. I think their concern is the all mighty dollar. We players come AFTER profit.


I agree Nelly. They really do need a safe environment for their game if its such a family game. There are hackerrs on there and true griefers that need to be taken care of.... But if they value my $10 a month over the quality of their game, and the opinions of the players... then they do not deserve my $10.

They won't bother listening to their players even though they encourage a reply from us, then I won't bother being a player on POTCO anymore. Yeah it'd be better to send them all of this but, I've been shunned away by Disney one too many times. If they come on here, they can read it for themselves.

Nelly Darkpaine 06-14-2009 03:43 AM

The big blow for me was the linked accounts. They just dont care that people can't play together anymore.

Cannonfury 06-14-2009 05:35 AM

Its all about the money for them, they really don't care about the players.

Stephen O'Malley 06-14-2009 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Maria Cannonfury (Post 142921)
Its all about the money for them, they really don't care about the players.

With the whole economic crisis and such, who's surprised?

Nelly Darkpaine 06-14-2009 05:46 AM

I am... I thought they cared a bit more about players. They forget who PAYS for memberships. Family players, thats who.

After investing in this game for over a year, Im somewhat hoping it tanks. The linked accounts was the last straw for me.

Cannonfury 06-14-2009 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by truffleboy2894 (Post 142923)
With the whole economic crisis and such, who's surprised?

well, i don't think a big company like Disney is suffering from the economy. They only care about money either way.

Stephen O'Malley 06-14-2009 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Maria Cannonfury (Post 142927)
well, i don't think a big company like Disney is suffering from the economy. They only care about money either way.

Yes, but their CEOs are only making $10,000,000,000 a month, as opposed to $15,000,000,000 a month before the economic slide :laughks2:.

Crazypirate 06-14-2009 11:28 AM

I do understand families that play together being upset about the linked account situation but D has said they are working on a solution to the problem. Banning only a single pirate on an account as suggested wouldnt really work as alot of the players D is suspending Im sure arent families that share an account but individuals who would just use another pirate on that account and by the time the forth got suspended the first would be back. I am sure alot of it is also friends who play together using linked accounts with one paid instead of having seperate accounts, the reason for sooo many protect your account info warnings from Disney. Im sure they could look at the number of unlimited accounts being online and the number of unlimited pirates online at any given time and repeatedly saw their linked account system being abused what was to stop me and a friend across town or the world from spliting the cost each month and sharing each with 2 pirates Disney saw this as an abuse of linked accounts with no clear fix. Dont put all the blame on Disney they are still a company that exists to make money alot of the blame goes to those people who used linked accounts to work around bans and those who used linked accounts to play for free or half the rate the rest of us pay with thier "friends" not family!

The Commodore 06-14-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazypirate (Post 142939)
I do understand families that play together being upset about the linked account situation but D has said they are working on a solution to the problem. Banning only a single pirate on an account as suggested wouldnt really work as alot of the players D is suspending Im sure arent families that share an account but individuals who would just use another pirate on that account and by the time the forth got suspended the first would be back. I am sure alot of it is also friends who play together using linked accounts with one paid instead of having seperate accounts, the reason for sooo many protect your account info warnings from Disney. Im sure they could look at the number of unlimited accounts being online and the number of unlimited pirates online at any given time and repeatedly saw their linked account system being abused what was to stop me and a friend across town or the world from spliting the cost each month and sharing each with 2 pirates Disney saw this as an abuse of linked accounts with no clear fix. Dont put all the blame on Disney they are still a company that exists to make money alot of the blame goes to those people who used linked accounts to work around bans and those who used linked accounts to play for free or half the rate the rest of us pay with thier "friends" not family!

They also said new content was on the horizon at the one year mark. It's been about 8 months now, and I see nothing new. They said a lot of stuff was coming. Disney lies. But, we all have a choice, keep paying and be silent, keep paying and be verbal, stop paying and be verbal, stop paying, or stop paying and quit. I can't, cause I won'y abandon my guild after the work we put in, but it gets harder each day to log on, especially when I see the people who aren't quitting.

Disney has a long history of making it for the minority (not racist, read on). Mission Space is a classic example. They have warning signs posted every 5 feet, but people are idiots, and refuse to listen. Then, when their family member is dead when they get off, they sue. Instead of persuing legal action, Disney settles, bribing the families to keep quiet, and changing the ride, ruining it for the rest of us.

With linked accounts, this is the same way. It was hurting disney, and helping a few unscroupulous people. So, what did they do? Classis Disney, and change the rules because of a few.

Well, i'll end my rant now. I may turn this into a blog, and add onto it. But, for those of you who quit the game, I wish you only the best, but by quitting, what do we get. We let Disney win...

Crazypirate 06-14-2009 02:25 PM

I believe Disney said the next story chapter and cap raises were coming out this summer not the first day of summer and as far as D is concerned the towns and other improvements are new content just not the content you were looking for. Disney is not trying to kill the game or purposely telling us lies but i am sure as they are working on the new story quests they have run into issues that may be behind some of the recent changes we are all complaining about as well as trying to make little easy for them to do improvements along the way. Disney is not stupid they know releasing a new story quest and raising caps will bring back alot of paid accounts as well as bring in alot of new players, and we know they love money, so dont you think if it was ready they would have released it, every month its not out is costing them money. I bet the bosses at D are hounding the devs to finish it just as much as pirates are ranting about how evil Disney is. Look at console games how long between good versions of games do you normally have to wait 2-3 years and most good MMOs arent releasing new expansions every other month. Be patient and if you cant find some part about the present POTCO that you like playing then try something else and in 3-4 months come back and complain about how boring it is to grind weapons getting from lvl 50 to 55.


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