This is getting a bit out of hand.... we should try to organize this better.....

LOL that is what I been trying to say since the beginning, now you are catching up! JK :dancetl6: This is what simple things lead to. But I think once everyone is on the same page, it is better to keep things simple.

Ok well the agreement is.... whoever wins the election, the person who doesn't win will throw all their support behind the person who win, and the leader should be able with run things the way he believe is better. And there should always be room for clarifications, respectful debate, and ideas gathering. And if someone doesn't like how the leader run things, it could get as far as a vote, but the leader has to know about it and be able to participate. Not organization of rebellion or things like that. Should be a democratic process.

Good luck to all who wish to become GM!

So before we can get to a vote, everyone has to agree with the agreement everyone running for leader. So I guess that is Del, if you can agree with that, we shall proceed. Otherwise we shall not. Also feel free to express any thoughts or your own agreement if you like. I just want to make sure that we don't just go and start doing things without any organization. No one has offered more ideas, but if anyone wants to offer they are welcome to, as long it doesn't get too complicated, we shall see.

Perhaps your only taking me as the savage, argumentative, megalomaniac that I can evolve in to under the right temperature and pH range.

No agreement has to be made. Whoever wins, wins. I'm not the kind of person that tends to get upset if things don't go in my direction. As long as that collective doesn't spiral in to the anarchy of it's inevitable demise, I'll be fine :)

I didn't mean it for you necessarily. I meant it for the all the guilds and pirates and sane pirates, and not so sane pirates that we will probably find in our way.



I know what you mean, but I didn't mean it in that way. I know you are an angel. I mean it as a settlement. I meant it in a way that the people who you lead or the people who will joins the future, people who they lead, or people who doesn't fully understand, someone. will always tend to try to get things their way, or lead to thing to go down hill. Trust me I know it. So I have to have something to stand for, and if we run into any problems, and it gets out of hand, I will be able to say, sorry Mate you are braking our arrangement. Something I know will happen. Things are not made of flowers and I just know it will happen. Perhaps someone that isn't in their five senses. I want to have some insurance because I don't want to be treated as the bad guy that kicked out someone for no reason - or a small disagreement, and their friend get upset and things might start to go down hill. Is just something I know by experience. So I believe in my heart we really do need arrangements. Not for you or me necessarily.

I bet all Del will say is basically PNC's rules for the rules, as they are a nice set of rules. Maybe a couple additions.

Hope it works :3

~CM

You know what I am thinking ? Maybe I am not ready to participate on this as the leader. It is a lot of up hill work and I am willing to do it, but there needs to be a lot of support and participation, I was willing to take the challenge but also I had reasons not to do it, just trying to balance things out, and I now think that if there is not willingness and all the support - it is just more up hill work, AND STILL CAN BE DONE, but right now I can't afford that. I will join my pirate tho.

I know the price is high, and I am willing to pay it. But the price just keeps raising, and trying to cut back


So I guess this means, Del is the new leader. Congrats!

so dose del win or what. Also del can not say pnc rules because this is not a guild and is also a combination of a oligarchy(it means rule by a few people) and a democracy the gm cant just make up what ever rules he wants. this is not a monarchy or dictatorship it is a democracy/oligarchy.

It is a democracy. No matter what rank you are, you will have a say. Perhaps some people will have a slightly higher say than others, but everyone will count nonetheless

Please don't let others put words in my mouth, even if they are one of my closest friends ;)

I won't really say everything that I plan to do know, because it's unfair to the system to process your plans without the actual events transpiring, which are the foundations of it's actual creation. After all, you can't have a set of rules and guidelines that apply to the policies of the 1890s in the modern world, can you?

However, I will assure you, I'm not the tyrant that I humorously potray myself as. Everything in my guild runs as a democracy, and I intend to not squarrel the voices of my comrades here either.

This guild won't actually be a guild, though. That would simply be taking it to a further extreme. After all, the collective was created for the purpose of bringing together guilds of all corners, so they can help each other grow, befriend, and have fun. As such, the guild will simply function as a way to manage the member list, and create contact between each of the guilds involved more simple. After all, being a Guildmaster is tough enough, and I wouldn't prefer dropping the burden of another guild on each of the guild's shoulders.

As such as the guild not working completely as a guild, but a factor of the collective, I plan to create a new set of democratic functioned rules and guidelines which would appropiately fit the collective. PNC is a burden in itself, with all the crazies we have running around - double trouble! Pfft! Shoot me now! :p

I will begin talking with Countainer about the rules as soon as possible, each and every one of which will be voted on by the members of the collective. However, before we vote on the official list of rules, it would be smart to have all those who wish to be the founding guilds of the collective, step foward now and post their application on the collective's thread. That way, only those who actually want to be apart of the collective, will be the ones that decide on it.

all ready covered the collectives original thread has the information for joining. also again this is a oligarchy/republic/democracy not just a democracy.

Did you mean to say dictatorship?

no there is a difference a dictatorship has one person an oligarchy has a few. Think of it as how Britain. They have elected people and people who are in charge permanently and some how that worked.

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Igor is getting more confused by the minute :laughks2: