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ex8404 11-21-2010 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Swash (Post 275326)
But it's not Disney's fault. If the child is under the age of 10 while playing this game then it's the parents fault for anything the child sees. Also I didn't say no one under the age of 17 has played GTA, nor did I say no one under the age of 10 has played this because for one thing the ESRB ratings aren't the law, they are recomendations.

That was my point. Very few follow the ESRB recommendations. Even if Disney isn't at fault, a lawsuit would damage their reputation.

Tiberius Fireskull 11-21-2010 05:06 AM

I agree. If Disney ever got into a court case, it would look bad for them, even if they won the case. Seriously, nobody follows game ratings. I've seen 4th graders playing games that are Rated M. Now, there is something else you should look at with ratings. In my opinion, with the exception of the AO rating, they should be more based on maturity rather than age. If you can have a mature ten year old playing T rated games, then in my opinion at least, there is nothing wrong with that. On that same note, if we have some crazy, immature 15 year old playing a T rated game that may take his papa's gun out and go a shootin', thats bad.

In my opinion, if you are mature enough to handle something, then play it, otherwise you shouldn't.

Sorry, I think I strayed a bit there, just wanted to state my opinion.

Swash 11-21-2010 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 275357)
I agree. If Disney ever got into a court case, it would look bad for them, even if they won the case. Seriously, nobody follows game ratings. I've seen 4th graders playing games that are Rated M. Now, there is something else you should look at with ratings. In my opinion, with the exception of the AO rating, they should be more based on maturity rather than age. If you can have a mature ten year old playing T rated games, then in my opinion at least, there is nothing wrong with that. On that same note, if we have some crazy, immature 15 year old playing a T rated game that may take his papa's gun out and go a shootin', thats bad.

In my opinion, if you are mature enough to handle something, then play it, otherwise you shouldn't.

Sorry, I think I strayed a bit there, just wanted to state my opinion.

This is a great point. But also it wouldn't hurt Disney's rep bad enough to make them lose any serious money. Also people do follow game ratings. No game store will sell you T rated game unless your 13 or have a parent, 17 or parent for M, and 18 or parent for AO.

Tiberius Fireskull 11-21-2010 05:36 AM

Yes, or have a parent. Parents let their 4th graders have M games. Same with T. Nobody follows game ratings, at least where I live.

Davy Keelhawk 11-29-2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Swash (Post 275338)
Why would it be? If a grenade can't defeat a Navy soldier in one explosion then it will take several shots to defeat them

Also, building on that, wouldn't it take the same amount of swings of a sword to down a General or a Private?

metal1081 11-29-2010 01:31 AM

it wouldn't kick the rating up much unless they added major blood to it, E games got violence in them most games now a days do it's commen sense now that most kids want the most violent video games

Jack Chainward 12-13-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 272838)
Swordshot beat me to it XD.

Honestly, I think there are two reasons behind us not being able to shoot them.

First off, if they allowed us to shoot the Navy, I'm fairly certain the game's rating would be kicked up to T, maybe M.

Secondly, how many shots can a human being take from a gun, assuming it hits them straight in the chest? No more than 2, I'm sure.

I agree with you but, the guns used in pirate days are less accurate, and powerful than today so yo may be able to take for than 2, but i do agree with you completely. (sorry if someone said this didn't read all the way through)

Swash 12-13-2010 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy Keelhawk (Post 277171)
Also, building on that, wouldn't it take the same amount of swings of a sword to down a General or a Private?

Not really, as the NPC is given a certain amount of health and a private would be given about 10 hp while the General is going to be given 1000.

Pirate Guy 12-27-2010 06:46 PM

Um why we can't shoot them is because of the code. Barbossa tells you this in the beginning.

Barkjon 12-29-2010 12:45 AM

I think POTCO could safely be T. I mean, most kids, even young ones, can play T. The only M game I play is Halo (all of them), and they could easily be T, as the aliens in Campaign give, like, blue blood, and you can hardly ever see blood in multiplayer.

Still, even with guns there is no blood. Lego Star Wars has guns, its E10.

Tiberius Fireskull 12-29-2010 01:06 AM

True... but thats Lego lol. When you shoot a normal human human being and their limbs fall off, there will be blood, not lego parts sticking out.

And I have played Halo and the blood isn't that bad. Just a tiny bit when you are shot. Honestly, I've played T games that have worse animated blood. And I would agree with you about your thought of the T rating. It honestly isn't much different from E10, except it will usually be a bit more graphic.

I still; however, believe that you shouldn't be able to shoot humans. Too realistic, and it just isn't very Disney is it?

Davy_Mcwrecker 12-29-2010 01:56 AM

you should be able to but it will only do damage they will do no emote, just the bright flash & its done

Invincable Monster 12-29-2010 02:29 AM

I think that we should not be able to, it doesn't make sense....... if they are alive, it will take one shot to kill them, if it takes like 10 shots to kill them it wouldn't make any sense. The reason we can shoot the undead is because they are already dead.

Barkjon 12-30-2010 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 284950)
True... but thats Lego lol. When you shoot a normal human human being and their limbs fall off, there will be blood, not lego parts sticking out.

And I have played Halo and the blood isn't that bad. Just a tiny bit when you are shot. Honestly, I've played T games that have worse animated blood. And I would agree with you about your thought of the T rating. It honestly isn't much different from E10, except it will usually be a bit more graphic.

I still; however, believe that you shouldn't be able to shoot humans. Too realistic, and it just isn't very Disney is it?

Yeah, I don't think you should really shoot humans either. It's fine the way it is.

Oh yeah, many worse T games... The swearing in Halo could be an issue, but I've played Skate 2 (rated T) and there's at least twice as many swears.

WitchdoctorDan 12-30-2010 01:26 AM

[rant] The ratings RARELY stop the kid from playing them. Log on to Xbox Live or PSN, pop in GTA or RDR or CoD or Halo and listen to the voices. The average age: 13, but only because of the teenager in the lobby. But, what is in common with those games? The rating. All are rated M. The rating is just a recommendation or a warning to the parents, not a law. I bought GTA 3 at the age of 14 by myself back when it came out, despite it being rated M. Some kids can handle the violence and blood and swears, in fact, most can. It's nothing they don't see on TV or hear at school. But, the media picks out the mentally unstable teenager who shot up a high school and connects it to them playing M-rated games, despite the fact that the motive was already announced and had nothing to do with games. However, does this make buying your 8-year-old Red Dead Redemption ok? No, but it isn't as bad as it is made out to be. [/rant]

And as Davy said earlier, shooting people isn't very Disney, that's true, but then Armada of the Damned isn't much Disney is it? Company morals are situational. They tell the parents, "We care about your kids" and tell the kids and teenagers, "Check this out. Cool, huh? BUY IT." This isn't ripping on D, it's a business tactic and everyone does it. No need to get angry, it sells goods and moves our economy, but the company will still not have you believe it. It's just something to keep in mind about this issue.


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