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Dr. Zeppers 02-14-2009 07:11 PM

What is the "Players" list?
 
Ok, I saw this on test, it came with no explanation.

I see it now on open, still no explanation.

They removed the quite useful crewlist, and replaced it with this "Players" list.

I have yet to see it serve any purpose whatsoever.

Can someone enlighten me?

Captain Grizzly 02-14-2009 07:28 PM

My best guess, and it's only a guess, is that it will eventually be used to display the xD friends list since they currently don't show up on the regular friends list any more.

akamystic 02-14-2009 07:36 PM

Whatever "it" is....it currently serves no purpose whatsoever from what I've seen.

Juliana Maria 02-14-2009 07:42 PM

Maybe it'll be part of a new feature! *crosses fingers* But then again they did just do a massive update... hmmm

Dr. Zeppers 02-14-2009 07:42 PM

Ah so it has yet to serve a purpose that we can determine.

Thought I was missing something somewhere.

Thanks

Edward Edgemenace 02-14-2009 07:46 PM

My theory, is that it is supposed to show all players nearby, on-compass. As of today, it still does nothing.

IDK why they renamed the "Friends" button to "Pirates." The short-cut key is still "F"...makes more sense to call them "friends" to me.

swashbuckler II 02-14-2009 07:50 PM

It will be for DxD friends, remember on the old layout? Show players?

Will Badbreaker 02-14-2009 11:17 PM

What would be the purpose of showing DxD friends? I guess I might know if I had some there, but I thought the point of that was linking other Disney stuff more so.

I agree on the renaming from Friends to Pirates doesn't make sense. Of course they are pirates, what else would they be?
Showing nearby pirates from the compass though that is an interesting idea.

djr_8fan 02-15-2009 12:41 AM

I too think it will show your DxD frineds. Keep in mind that if you do the DxD and have friends there, you may not have them on your Pirate Friends list for inside the game. This would be a way to keep up with them in the game, crewing and chatting, etc.

jason davy 02-15-2009 12:46 AM

Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but do a lot of people even use the DxD friend thing? I know I personally don't...

Poison elf 02-15-2009 02:54 AM

At this time it still does nothing, just like the code button on all the items list you own. Speculation, is all that can probably be done with these with no announcements.

MacIronhawk 02-15-2009 03:10 AM

There's a link on the POTCO site called "Player's Page". It takes you to DXD so there's a possibility this "Player List" may have something to do with DXD.

Dr. Zeppers 02-15-2009 04:48 AM

Well a list of DxD players in the game is a waste of space for me.
Eliminating the crew list for a DxD list to me is like buying $1 bills, for $20.

Gotta love how they dont give us what we want, and keep wasting our time with what they think we want (you'd think what we ask for is what we want.. wouldnt you?)

Achilles 02-15-2009 05:52 AM

rofl....
 
Ok I have some input,.. perhaps some strong possibilities... :)

but,.. first off... Oh Zep,.. you had me rolling with this one...
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Gotta love how they don’t give us what we want, and keep wasting our time with what they think we want (you'd think what we ask for is what we want.. wouldn’t you?)
brotha,.. I had to take three on that,.. I had a Joshamee Gibbs moment hahaha!

Oh me,...
so,.. to the point,..
I heard at the scuttlebutt that the players Tab is for future use, but group play like in, say,.. PVP mayhem where there is a group attacking but not necessarily each other, but not in crew, same with SVS grouping and group attacking on large beasts...? should be clearer soon I suppose?

ancrom 02-15-2009 07:29 AM

got rid of something useful yeah!
but on the other hand you get a pretty, new shirt.
isn't that swell, gee I wonder if they can print on it.
"I wanted content and all I got was this stupid shirt."

Achilles 02-15-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ancrom (Post 116713)
got rid of something useful yeah!
but on the other hand you get a pretty, new shirt.
isn't that swell, gee I wonder if they can print on it.
"I wanted content and all I got was this stupid shirt."

Greetings Ancrom,
I understand your bewilderment Ancrom but this is in the quest for advancment,.. I'm sure we will see useage soon,.. hang in there my friend!

MacIronhawk 02-15-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 116686)
Well a list of DxD players in the game is a waste of space for me.
Eliminating the crew list for a DxD list to me is like buying $1 bills, for $20.

Gotta love how they dont give us what we want, and keep wasting our time with what they think we want (you'd think what we ask for is what we want.. wouldnt you?)

But you need to remember that the crew list wasn't exactly eliminated.
Now when you start or join a crew you'll see all the crew stats to the left of the screen. If you click on a pirates name you can see their details.

I have to agree with you though. If this player list has anything to do with DXD it's a waste of time. I'm just trying to make an educated guess. I certainly hope this has to do with something in-game and not DXD.

Dr. Zeppers 02-15-2009 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 116720)
But you need to remember that the crew list wasn't exactly eliminated.
Now when you start or join a crew you'll see all the crew stats to the left of the screen. If you click on a pirates name you can see their details.

That is if you dont have the chat window open full size. FORCING the list over the play screen is an exercise in BAD judgement on their part. It seems to me they wanted this players list so bad, they decided to drive us nuts with the crew hud which doesnt need to be there. Sorry I like the 'option' of the crew hud.. but I liked the crew list about 10,000 times better. And dont care a plug nickel about DxD.

jason davy 02-15-2009 08:21 PM

Has anyone else noticed that it looks like there's still room on the friends (or "pirates") list for one more tab? There's pirates, players, guild, EMPTY SPACE. Seems to me like they could have kept the crew list down there, ESPECIALLY since it looks like the space for a crew tab is still there.

MacIronhawk 02-16-2009 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 116824)
That is if you dont have the chat window open full size. FORCING the list over the play screen is an exercise in BAD judgement on their part. It seems to me they wanted this players list so bad, they decided to drive us nuts with the crew hud which doesnt need to be there. Sorry I like the 'option' of the crew hud.. but I liked the crew list about 10,000 times better. And dont care a plug nickel about DxD.

So do I. It'd be nicer if they would have kept the crew list. They could have made room for both but I guess they thought it'd be easier(cheaper) to take the crew list out and stick it in our faces when playing.

ninety3rd 02-16-2009 09:40 AM

re Players
 
Or it's Hollywood.
Ya know, like in Tropic Thunder and T Cruise's character and his "Player" dance....
;-)


:laughks2:

Cheleszoo 02-17-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Grizzly (Post 116581)
My best guess, and it's only a guess, is that it will eventually be used to display the xD friends list since they currently don't show up on the regular friends list any more.

I think it will be used for this too. But how many actually have enuf DXD friends to make this button worth it. I want the old crew button back.

Another thing is what is with the "Online" button just above the list. You can push it but it doesn't do anything.

Sarah 02-17-2009 05:19 PM

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Another thing is what is with the "Online" button just above the list
I love this button! Instead of leaving your list of friends who are on line in ABC order, it brings all the ones who are in fact in game up to the top of the list. No more scrolling to see who's on line ;) Works on your guild list as well.

Poison elf 02-17-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 117101)
I love this button! Instead of leaving your list of friends who are on line in ABC order, it brings all the ones who are in fact in game up to the top of the list. No more scrolling to see who's on line ;) Works on your guild list as well.


Yes this is a better option now to guild online characters etc. Takes a quick move. Previously, and now even worse, you had to go to guild options, and hit show list. This would bring all online to the top so you could see them. Also would totally hang-up the game, and even more so now if you do it.

Sven Niscadae 02-17-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah (Post 117101)
I love this button! Instead of leaving your list of friends who are on line in ABC order, it brings all the ones who are in fact in game up to the top of the list. No more scrolling to see who's on line ;) Works on your guild list as well.

Hmm I can click on the "Name" button and it brings the online players to the top as well. The rest of them I can never get in alphabetical order.

MacIronhawk 02-18-2009 03:07 AM

Does anyone else notice that there's a very noticeable spot by the Players list that could support the crew list?

Such a waste of space...

Ghostcannon 02-18-2009 06:47 AM

I was wondering also about that "Players' List". I am thinking that probably that would be for future use, who knows, maybe for PvP purposes.

Edward Edgemenace 02-18-2009 08:44 AM

I'd rather the guild list work like the friends list: correctly (without the buttons to "re-sort" when it messes up.)

Dr. Zeppers 02-22-2009 01:37 AM

Ok, I jumped on test to take a look at New Tortuga, and noticed, that there is now a "Crew" button again, and gives the old options as it had before!

Wow, they may be listening ;)

swashbuckler II 02-22-2009 06:47 AM

or, maybe they heard us wanting to have more content, and they released it before they got it finished.

Edward Edgemenace 02-26-2009 12:55 AM

As of 2/25/2009, the Players tab works now. It does indeed show DxD friends. And now, there is a second "Friends" button on the player card just for this. So even though DxD has forever been broken for me (never able to friend someone there, despite various attempts) it now works seamlessly, in-game.

Cannonfury 02-26-2009 01:00 AM

DXD is back yay!!!!!!

jason davy 02-26-2009 01:02 AM

I'm still not sure I am entirely clear on how this works. Today, Zeke's "player" asked to be my friend. Um.... ok? Then someone else friended me a bit later, then their "player" friended me. I do not "do" DxD so perhaps that is the source of my confusion. I see no benefit whatsoever in friending someone's "player" when I can just friend their pirate, because as far as the game is concerned, they are the exact same thing.

Maximvs 02-26-2009 03:37 AM

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I see no benefit whatsoever in friending someone's "player" when I can just friend their pirate, because as far as the game is concerned, they are the exact same thing.
This is very handy for when you want to friend a player with multiple pirates without using multiple spots...

So if I know you and you have three pirates you want me to friend - by using the 2nd friend button I get one entry for all your pirates (so no matter which one you long in with - it shows up in the list).

jason davy 02-26-2009 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximvs (Post 118928)
This is very handy for when you want to friend a player with multiple pirates without using multiple spots...

So if I know you and you have three pirates you want me to friend - by using the 2nd friend button I get one entry for all your pirates (so no matter which one you long in with - it shows up in the list).

Interesting... perhaps it isn't so useless after all. ;) Still not sure I understand exactly how it works, but I guess I will after I actually mess with it a bit. Do you have to do anything with DxD (in other words, do anything other than just play the game) in order for it to work for you? And thanks!

Nelly Darkpaine 02-26-2009 03:57 AM

And, may I ask anyone here - where is the toggle crew icon option located now?
Im bewildered - couldnt find it.

Maximvs 02-26-2009 04:05 AM

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Do you have to do anything with DxD (in other words, do anything other than just play the game) in order for it to work for you? And thanks!
At one time you did - but this new button looks like you don't need DxD - it looks like it will do the 'DxD Friends Connection for you' - I'm gonna try it out tomorrow to confirm with a few friends which I have friended several pirates with (so I can clean up my friends list - woop!)


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And, may I ask anyone here - where is the toggle crew icon option located now?
Im bewildered - couldnt find it.
I think its back under the new Crew Button on your Friend Box (the Crew HUD is there along with many of the old Crew Items :) )

Dr. Zeppers 02-26-2009 06:19 AM

One of the things I dont like much about DxD is once someones a friend in one game, they are friend in all of them. Perhaps a plus to some, and I do see some convenience. I can also see some inconvenience. Pirates often create additional pirates for some quiet time, and DxD leads everyone right to them! Most of my DxD friends came from another disney game when I friended them in that game.

Sven Osymthe 02-26-2009 11:17 AM

Zeppers, if your on a linked account then switch over to you main, you won't have to deal with XD friends as long as your linked account doesn't have any.
So pretty much, you friend someone off of XD on account one, when you log on account two, in order for it to show you must friend them again.
That is... if thats what you were saying, lol

Maximvs 02-26-2009 12:44 PM

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One of the things I dont like much about DxD is once someones a friend in one game, they are friend in all of them.
Very true - its an 'all pirates' or none. If you plan to have a 'secret pirate' where others will not see you on - then the 2nd button is NOT a good option (they see any pirate you play - and vice versa as you see them play all their pirates).

So - for a few friends who you want to see playing all your pirates - 2nd button is a cool choice... otherwise just use the 1st friend button :)

Edward Edgemenace 02-26-2009 07:01 PM

Within a week of them doubling the size of the friends list, mine was full again. Every pirate I help, wants to be friends with The Edward. So far, the DxD list has been a excellent way to cut down on my friends list size, by keeping only pirates I routinely play with, on the DxD list.

Logging in with a linked account pirate, has all my logged-in DxD friends appear in yellow on my regular friends list. From what I understand of it, other Disney games will also show these same people as friends in other games.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work at all on TEST. So keeping a separate list on a piece of paper here, remains the only way for me to keep track of when I last saw someone.

I'm not sure Zepper's concern for privacy, is any issue for me. People that annoy me, don't stay on my friends list, let alone my DxD list. But having the ability to communicate when I'm on another pirate, is a wonderful convenience. That convenience far outweighs the "quiet-time" concern.

Poison elf 02-26-2009 07:31 PM

Really you don't have a secret pirate anyways, if its on the same account. To have secret pirates you need a different account. DXD always had the option to look up other pirates, once there all pirates of that player can be looked at.

So its just a matter of if anyone bothered to go to that extent to look.

Dan_OB 02-26-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Poison elf (Post 119035)
Really you don't have a secret pirate anyways, if its on the same account. To have secret pirates you need a different account. DXD always had the option to look up other pirates, once there all pirates of that player can be looked at.

So its just a matter of if anyone bothered to go to that extent to look.

It's not a question of whether they know if you have a pirate, its a question of whether they know you are online or not. For example, most of my friends know I have 3 pirates but none of them are friends with my newest pirate. So when I'm online with my newest pirate my friends don't know that I'm online. Some of us like to have a pirate with which we can just play the game and not worry about social interaction.

Edward Edgemenace 02-26-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan_OB (Post 119046)
It's not a question of whether they know if you have a pirate, its a question of whether they know you are online or not. For example, most of my friends know I have 3 pirates but none of them are friends with my newest pirate. So when I'm online with my newest pirate my friends don't know that I'm online. Some of us like to have a pirate with which we can just play the game and not worry about social interaction.

Inasmuch as the players list enhances the social aspects of the game, it seems like a very good thing for most people. To achieve the privacy you say you seek, you need to use a separate un-linked account. As Poison Elf pointed out, your other pirates (and linked pirates) are not private; they can still be accessed on the DxD website.

But then, the social aspect of the game is one of its finer selling points. If you really need to be alone much of the time, don't use the players list. For my pirates, it is a wonderful feature.

Dan_OB 02-26-2009 10:08 PM

Ed, please read my post rather then reading in to it.

I'm not talking about a double secret undercover pirate.

Who knows you have a pirate is of no importance.

Who knows you are online is the issue.

No unlinked account is needed.

As Maximus pointed out, just don't use the "Player" page.

I didn't say anything negative about the "Player" feature in fact I like it, as long as the regular friends option is available.

Dr. Zeppers 02-27-2009 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace (Post 119031)
I'm not sure Zepper's concern for privacy, is any issue for me. People that annoy me, don't stay on my friends list, let alone my DxD list.

Well, when you have people begging to be friends all the time because they saw you in the forums, know your a moderator in the forums, begging for screenshots with you etc. Its far easier to grant them the friend request than to have to go through the ordeal of saying no. My list being full was my only saving grace.

Its why I seldom use my "OFx Zeppers" pirate anymore, but for a few moments at a time. I stopped playing another Disney game simply because friending someone it it automatically made you DxD friends as well, and adding more chaos to my pirate list.

So much so I also learned the trick that Sven eludes to above.. that does work Sven.. already use it. ;)


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