Kraken?
 

I was on POTC couple of days ago. One of my firends mentioned there was now a kraken battle, as in boss battle and had taken part in one.
Is this the case have I missed something, or need to reach certain weapon level or Notoriety? Or was this a rumour spread and a case of chinese whispers?

Me thinks your friend be pulling yer peg leg. No, no sea beasties yet.

We can only hope it arrives sometime soon...preferably before 2010.


:pirate2wn0:

Big John,

There is part of a video and some screenshots that they made to tease us with. And they made BIG hints back in March that it was coming... but the critter never appeared - yet.

[IMG]http://images2.*****.nocookie.net/piratesonline/images/a/aa/Kraken2.jpg[/IMG]

AND on a side note, look at the front sails of that frigate, it has 3!!!! ok bring us ship customazation or atleast NEW ships if its right there, MAKE IT HAPPEN

the Kraken
 

There is a thread on another site ref. 'The Kraken' and pictures of the actual battle (Kat Bluerat actually took part in battling the Kraken)

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ay/Kraken1.jpg
As the Kraken appears, Kat levels her cannon, takes aim, as she prepares
to blast away at this massive Beast


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ay/Kraken2.jpg
The Kraken makes his massive size known as he produces more of his huge tenticles.


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ay/Kraken3.jpg
The green puff cloud is blood emitted from the Kraken as it is wounded from Kats
bombardment of cannon fire.


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ay/Kraken4.jpg
Kat seems to have lost this battle as the Mighty Kraken grabs her body and shakes the living
daylights out of Her and then slams her on the deck.


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ay/Kraken5.jpg
This seemingly grey puff cloud is Kat being slammed on the deck by this nasty beast!



I'd like to see if what they bring out soon is any bearing on what they were playing with 4 years ago.
And many thanks to Kat Bluerat for sharing her pictures with the Founders Association.

Those dirty dogs! They blotted out your link!

well Those pics are new, Never seem them before....

Wow! If Swash never saw them before you know those are special (Swash has an inside source)

There was that green waters thing that happened but no Kraken came out of it...so we sit here and wait. I'm guessing theres going to be a new chapter on the Kraken. Hopefully they're working on it & release it before December...

Yes I kinda suspected there wasn't a kraken fight just yet, but really wanted to be wrong! Seeing as there has been no updates as of late. Anway those pics ^^ look amazing and yes the frigate with 3 sails?

yeah your friend was wrong unless he was playing a different game:knife:

Well swash those pics are not new...if you look in pollys post, "they were playing with 4 years ago."

So and juding by the background pictures it looks like it is a gaming convention, probably E3 and that was a local connection meaning if that was not a one player battle then it was not on a server it was just with the people that were in the same room as her. so it was never the potco as we know it.

Rumor going around on test?
 

Hello all ,
There is a rumor going around on the test that there is a new site where you can get updated facts about the game and the new things that will be coming, and when.. Ive been hearing that chapter 2 is on its way and will be on the test shortly...
I'm looking for someone that has heard of this too and may be able to share this website with me?
ive looked on GamerDNA and potco regular website? However im unable to find this . any help will do
Founders website? real or not?
Thanks:bookishfj7:

I have heard of another version of a POTC pirates video arcade game that also had the kraken in it. It had been described as a multiplayer arcade game (networked in the the arcade). Could be something similar.

That interface looks like a cross between POTCO and POTBS.

I have a feeling a that some of the trailer footage we see comes from these hybrid games.

Maybe one of the console games?

The pictures in skulls' post look like they're from the E3 convention when they announced pirates online. I saw some footage of the E3 event on the pirates site and they showed people firing cannon balls on land, enemies with the french/spanish sword movements, and the Kraken battle.

The pictures look very pre-beta. The Kraken tentacles... they're a joke compared to the graphics in the phase files. Excuse me, I mean when the Kraken was in the files. Now the beastie is probably out for some unknown reason... :rolleyes:

This screenshot I took a few months ago shows the 'large' tentacle.

When it was in the files the animation for it appeared to pull down ships once they lost the battle.

And then there's the regular sized tentacles that would grab pirates up and crush them. These tentacles are probably used as distractions while the big tentacle drags the ship under.


But all the trailers for pirates are probably made by the devs. I believe they have their own server to test things before they release it to test. They probably use that private server to make the trailers. That's just a guess, though.

Back to the Kraken. If you look at his head you can probably guess why they took him out of the files. He needs a make over.:laughks2:

The hybrid games as I refer to, may have been written with the target being potco.

Often in development, when testing code etc, hybrid programs, or side programs are developed, that help them test different things. Like they could technically have a "Kraken" game that they use to test framerates on the Kraken model, etc. I have heard of arcade/special engagement games, where participants battle together, against the eitc, navy, and the Kraken as well.

One way or the other, we see that they have coded the kraken, it would seem they are having difficulty coding it sufficiently into the online released game though.

The descriptions of the first set of pictures, run right along what the developers say in interviews on the official site.

I would say that perhaps they only intended it to pull down ships that had lost their battles, but then why did they have this "battle the kraken game" version of it apparently at E3?

We all sit and wait... some patiently, some not... we're all hoping!

I'd like to ask them why we can't battle the Kraken now.

I can understand taking him out of the files to work on the head, connecting the tentacles to the body, and working on the animation and graphics. It's amazing how strange POTCO can be. They can 'work' on one thing and give us some previews of what they're doing, but in the end it never works out the way you think it would.

I mean seriously. There was a Kraken battle at E3 but here it is two years later, and nothing! I just can't understand that.

P.S. What is exactly is coding?

The program code, that takes all those images you snag out of the phase files together, and makes them do their magic :)

Why not just use Thunderbolt to electrocute the thing?
Notice it's daylight right now. We'll see later on.

Notice how, 1: It's near PDF, and 2: It's at night.

Notice some small red puffs around the Green Puff. Maybe chum :psmiley27:
Now, it is Daylight.

Notice the Undead Ship ( ship thingy with big vortex and thunder above ) in the Background.
That'll leave a mark.

Did he go to the hospital?

Me too, I really can't wait. Here, have some :beer:

lol i think were drinking to much rum waiting for these updates...disney is wetting us down so when the updates do come out we wont be sober enough to tell if there any good or not >:D

Wasnt POTCO announced in E3 06? thats more like 3 years

Sorry, that's my fault. I saw that video in early 2007 and forgot that the video said E3 2006.

But since it's three years, it's even stranger that we don't have a Kraken battle. It must be pretty hard for them to animate him and get him ready for the test server.

hmm, Now im thinking that some of those people that "fought" the kraken at E3 wernt really fighting him, Maybe they were acting like they were fighting it and it was just a playback.
Its simpler just to create a video then making something to interact with it, And I know i explained it wierd right there.

Possibly swash. Also could have been a much simpler version of it. You have to think about since then they've revamped almost everything that was in that video. They could have done a fake kraken, or just done a mock up, with a few animation points, judging by how it went undefeated (I think, correct me if i'm wrong).

It's more likely that it was a simpler version of it.

One of the video insiders on the pirates site shows the E3 previews of pirates and people playing pirates. The Kraken battle people at E3 played was probably a very washed out version of the Kraken battle.. I bet all the Kraken did was wave around it's tentacles and pick people up. Probably nothing special.

Well, when/if they bring out the Kraken, it will probably whack at your ship, doing the damage any ship would do.

any ship , you wish the kraken is 1000 ft long and a mythical sea beastie

would be doing tons of damage like 6000 a minute but the war frigate with the additional sail must have something like 60000hp

I hope the kraken will be released anytime soon someone told me he only appear

in enchanted waters.

what game is that is that online or what game

On a side note: The pirate only has 55 HP?!?!

haha, the rumour continues, I was on last night on the abassa server and few pirates were asking about the Kraken. I guess this may be an attempt by some to get Disney listening and get their finger out!

Aren't those pics from beta 1?:psmiley35:

hey swash if you have an inside source please tell us what they're working on and where they are in the kraken please so many people are waiting think of the children lol but please tell us where they are on the kraken and what they're working on

I don't think Swash has an inside source, he simply said that the pirate in the pictures had 55HP.

I don't think pirates that can only play on the open server are getting it. If the Kraken was out, he would be on the test server first and there would be release notes for it. Within days there would be information about the Kraken on the pirates site. So... these "Kraken Sightings" are either by people that take the game too seriously, or they're from people that want a good laugh.

Exactly what mac says

You can rest assured, that as with all updates, it will appear on test before it's released on open.

Mac has it right, as seconded by Swash. I promise you, when the Kraken finally shows it's slimy head on test you will hear (read) the joyous news here immediately.

I think that unless someone has something found on PANDA3D, I wouldn't get yer hopes up.

Eh, well I'm looking forward to the Lv^'s, the Gold carry increases, and higher lvl enemies ( i know the Tormenta guys went ^ in levels ).
Btw, my Grenades went to Lv24 with Urchinfist rep.

Im not sure if it was faked, but i saw a youtube video yesterday that had "proof" that disney had released the kraken on test, in my opinion it was mocked up because the video showed a picture of the site and with the updates down at the bottom had one line saying "the kraken is here!!!" and thats it. then i looked at the date it was posted, may 24, and wondered who was bored enough to get everyones hopes up then with a lame mockup.

i saw that too anoying very anoying but it was released during march concievable but not true

Ya those kind of things are very cruel, trying to lead people along, i have heard rumors of it being here by Christmas though with the way its going they would have a lot better luck with scrapping this game and creating a POTCO 2 with a different engine and better overall play ability.

For the record, there are several textures specifically for the kraken in the games phase files. There are even sounds for it (ie kraken roar). This gives us signs of them working on it. Unfortunately doesnt mean it will ever be publicly released (or when it will be).

Some people love to instigate rumors, just attention grabbers, which even enjoy the negative attention given once their rouse is discovered.

Rumors are such wonderful things. They are quite effective in keeping the masses wondering.

Rumor was that it would be released this spring.
Rumor was that it would be released this summer.
Rumor was that it would be released this fall.
Now the rumor is that it will be released by Christmas?
Do I get dibs on rumoring that it will now be released in Spring of 2010?

First, I agree with you, unfortunately Disney seems to be focused on two engines to support their games. Panda3D (Potco, and Toontown), and Flash (PixieHollow). Flash would never do the game justice. I dont see Disney venturing into any of the higher end engines that would require reinvestment, and redevelopment of the project. And being an MMO, I doubt there will be a POTCO 2, just new versions/releases of the current POTCO.

i agree Zep but they could at least go along with WoW and have different versions? like instead of wrath of the lich king, a new version that would play on the same servers could be "reign of barbossa" or something like that with a totally different story line. I wouldnt mind buying expansion packs and stuff like that if the game was any where near that good.

I understand what your saying (i think). But they would have to change the server software, etc as well. Cant host two different engines like that. Well maybe its possible, but they would have to be separate instances, you think it lags now... WOA! And the game play would be entirely separate, those running the panda3d version would not be able to interact with those in a different engine, as their server instances would have to be separate.

Well I'm not the technical guy those are just my ideas ;-)

I think I would knock the guy out. He tries to make people believe the Kraken's out, but if you look closely to the left of the black screen at 2:11, you can see the
"|", which is the flickering thing when your typing. So it's seriously obvious that it was faked.

Too bad no one on youtube noticed this. At least they know it's fake lol.

Well, one can only wonder what other things these guys do...

Keep in mind it may have been a personal joke amongst this persons friends, and not meant to mess with all us pirates heads.
We hadnt really heard of this video, as it wasnt really brought to others attention. Youtube makes it easy to share with friends, but others can find/view it and could possibly come to the wrong conclusions.

You make good points, Zep.
How about I bribe you with 500 dollars/gold/dabloons/gems?

lol hmm i would take you up on those 500 dollars, 500 gold, 500 dabloons and 500 gems if you dont mind ;-)

I'm back, I've been training Grenades at Tormenta Cave.
Here are your 500 ditto:
:icon_treasure_chest: Gems.
:icon_chest: Gold
:treasure: Dollars
:12_1_138: Dabloons.

Enjoy.

well i think it is on test in uncharted waters at night but is hard to find (not excatly sure bout this but...) i know it is possible but maybe won of you guys can throw a stickey on this? because i am in test sever so ill try to keep it updated
:beer:
:12_1_138:
:treasure:
thats all that matters lol

I am sure the kraken will come in due time....well overdue at this point however consider the following.....

As far as them taking a long time to release this im sure its due to the fact that creating a major game update while at the same time updating the currently running version and keeping out as many bugs as possible is no easy task. (anyone remember when you could get behind just about any wall in the game?).....not so much anymore

disney is a huge company and anything they touch turns gold.....but they make sure what they release is a good product, if it carrys their name its gotta be right.

i dont know about many of you but i have been playing for well over a year now. since WAY before the islands changed and when privateering wasnt even around. i left the game for a few months and came back to see everything had changed.....that right there impressed me and got me right back in the game that they could do that much of a change in a few months

they will get the kraken out there im sure and they will get the second story quest going im sure...as far as im concerned they are doing a pretty darn good job with what they have. Im just happy to have something to do in the game for now. you dont see a whole lot of level 50s out yet so many are like me and were previously mastered and had NOTHING to do for a LONG time....im just happy there is something to look forward to.


i hope this wasnt too terrible of a rant and ramble and kept on topic.



"take what you can, give nothing back...a pirates life for me...HUZZZAH"

Mate, I haven't been on test since... whenever.... but I'm sure, the Kraken is not out yet. It WOULD say so in the Test's Game News. But I'll check just to be sure.

I thought I remember reading on PiratesOnline.com that the Kraken, new story quest, and inventory system is gonna be released this year... unless Disney releases them before January 1st 2010, then they lied to us.

They'll most likely bring it by the end of December or the beginning of January.

Aye hopefully :/

It seems like D is going in an entirely different direction than what releasing the Kraken would involve. I mean, they started down this whole invasion thing and being able to fight against Jolly Roger and now he's invading Tortuga. The Kraken is Davy Jones pet, not Jolly Roger's, and Davy Jones isn't even in the game at all, but Jolly Roger is. So I think that the Kraken maybe isn't coming at all, or at least there's a lot more story to tell before he does come. I don't see how the Kraken suddenly showing up would have anything to do with what Jolly Roger is doing with invasions and stuff.

Also, maybe I don't get it or something, but what's so exciting about the Kraken anyway that everybody wants it sooo bad? Everyone talks like it's going to be the best thing to ever happen to POTCO, but shooting tentacles doesn't really sound that fun to me... maybe I'm wrong.

Well, there could be a chance that Big D is going to make it like this:

Jolly Roger somehow turns the Kraken onto his side, into an UNDEAD Kraken. Thus, making it do Jolly Roger's evil bidding. That's what I would think they would do.

Maybe not undead because that doesnt really evolve around the movie. but the kraken turning to jolly would be good.

Yer friend has lied no kraken- yet. hopes up be pattient unlike some ppl i know on this site(not saying names LOL)

Notice in the picture, it was taken by a camera, so it would be hard to change it.

Kraken grabbing a pirate:


Kraken Arms:




Kraken Tentacle that grabs the ship down:


Kraken Tentacle Slicing off:



Early Kraken Head(will not be in the game):



Remember, AI is the hardest part of the game, and the Kraken is probably the hardest AI the developers have ever worked on. It's going to take some time.

i am confused are you telling the truth kate or is the other thread telling the truth a other thread said that was a picture from beta and it was but they said it was test server men and you said that was you

uh dude where did you get that picture of the kraken tentacles and the pirate getting grabbed

He probolly got them from the phaze filels. The phaze files have a buntch of pictures of that in them, but can't be opend without installing panda 3D ( The thing Disney uses to make POTCO. )

Also when where did the pirate on the pic get the navy looking shirt? HMM? COuld be a hint of new clothing

Also if it was on test than everyone would be saying THE KRAKEN IS ON TEST YAYZ!

I noticed the "pirate" had a spanish sash on him, along with some strange pants and a set of unique boots. As Mark said above me, I think this is a hint of new clothing... as we all know in one of the dev diaries, it said "players will dress up as navy people and sneak into forts" or something like that, well after watching the videos on dxd again, I have noticed some images there are coming out... I saw some skeletons fighting pirates on tortuga coming up from the water... (invasions) (hint hint). The kraken is still being "modified" as I have heard from GM edward kidd.

Aye, also there's one of those side quests on Port Royal that involes getting some clothes from Navy Cadets/Guards and such, stealing their coats, boots or whatever, and then putting on those clothes as a disguise to get into Fort Charles and steal a treasure ( I believe it was some sort of Coin or Medallion ). This could also hint in new clothing or, as William Swordcastle mentioned, "players dressing up as Navy Cadets and sneaking into forts."

I completely see why they took him out of the assest files,he um needed a makeover :|
Well anyway,They showed there progress of makeing the kraken:

Well it is this the one there working on right now or is it the Call Of The Kraken model?

Cause they look the same and i think this is the old kraken :)

http://www.volny.cz/pavlicd/XNALara/kraken_thumb.jpg

I still wonder why its taken them now 3 years and its still not released. Well i hope finally 2010 will be the year it comes. :/ Hopefully... :)

yeah im on test i see all these release notes its like huge i cant even find the word kraken ugh let me keep looking...

It's not in the recent release notes..

It's not on ANY release notes.

im just wondering how u accsess the kraken in the phase files

There was a thread in Computer Tech Support just about this. It should be somewhere near the top as of now.

yeah its going to be next in the game. The kraken!

But I thought it already was? Didn't you say it was already?

I don't really get all the hype about the Kraken.. but I doubt it is next.

i dont get it look right here

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/g...8-2009-832.jpg

if they put out a perfectly fun kraken, you know you get to fight it and stuff... then why did they take it out? i mean it works perfectly,all they needed to do is add a few stuff to it, they didnt need to remake it so THE WHOLE THE IS ONE BODY SEEN RIGHT HERE:

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/g...php?photo=2808

They never even put it in the game to begin with...

oh sorry here is the picture i wanted to show you guys

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/g...695/Kraken.jpg

yeah but it was at the E3 convention, i mean why didnt they put it from the E3 convention to the game?

POTCO was shown at the 2006(?) E3 convention. That wasn't really a finalized version, it was more for show.

yeah it was acually pretty cool. i stored some of the old phase files of 2007 and i check out the kraken folder and if you think about it, the old kraken wasnt that bad! i mean besides how are they gonna show the WHOLE krakens body if he is under water sucking on the hull while its tenticles do all the fun? :)

I don't get all the hype for the Kraken because a month after we get it then what? We'll get bored of it and ultimately find something else to complain to Disney about that we don't have in the game.

thats acually not true, everybody has been waiting for the kraken for years and we just want them to keep to there promise thats all. And think about it wouldnt it be awesome if there was a kraken attacking ships being able to pick u up and eat or throw you? by the way i looked into the phase files and thats what it does.

people WILL get bored of the kraken because everybody will have killed it once or more.

YEAH IK but we want a kraken! even if it does get boring we still want the kraken.

Me and my guild have been looking for the kraken along the horizon edge , kind of by padres because people "claimed" to have seen it. Nothing found.

That's because it's not there. You can stop looking now...

LoL Where did ye hear that Chips?

not in the phase files not in the game

The Kraken is in the phase files mate but not in game.

Its in the files... and its going to be released either around the new year at my guess, or never.

The only thing in the phase files which deals with the Kraken is the struggle and crush animations for pirates. There is no Kraken model in the game, tentacles, head, or any other thing having to do with the Kraken, currently.

According to the developers, from LAST summer, he's in for a make over, and according to quest text, the Kraken isn't going to be the next story quest, but Raven's Cove will. But the Kraken has had a lot of work on by now, I'm assuming, and here's my estimate.

If the Raven's Cove quest comes out by October 31, the third year for POTCO, I would assume the Kraken would come out around March of 2011. Why? Because the Raven's Cove quest is probably a side quest that's been being worked on, while the Kraken actually involves movie actor voices, and Davy Jones, along with a lot of cutscenes, which aren't easy to do. At least if Raven's Cove comes out around October, or a little after, the Kraken and story quest that goes with him would have about five months to be worked on.

They could even work on Ship customization in between the two quests, and that would keep us really busy, along with new ships.

I went off track, but I'm just saying, the game is starting to roll along, now. At least it feels that way. Give the Kraken time, we want awesome cutscences, and an awesome boss battle. The more time the developers work on him, the better.

Agreed Mac, all the way. If the story chapter with the kraken doesnt have a good boss battle, I think Ill be very disappointed. I want the Kraken grabbing me and my crewmates, throwing us around, attacking the ship! I want to fight it's tentacles with cannons and swords!

Still though, I would like to see the new chapter soon.... its overdue....

You're right mate about the Raven's Cove quest being the next story chapter, and a side quest... and that the Kraken is the actual next big chapter. There will, as you said, be more cutscenes for the story quest. It will probably start off with the Headstone aye? I doubt that the Kraken is still being working on. They probably are done with it now, but only slowly releasing all the icing for it. If they were working on revamping the quest, they would have probably been done with it long ago

Now on what you said about cutscenes. I don't think that they involved any movie actors in the voicing of the characters. I have only heard that Joshambee Gibbs was done by his portrayer Kevin McNally. I doubt that they are going to involve Bill Nighy in voicing Davy Jones.

The phase files... As far as I have seen in the phase files... There are Kraken skin textures, Kraken battle sounds and a minor song, and I believe I saw some models of the Kraken. I haven't gone with depth into studying the beastie..

But this is all coming to something I see. They're updates certainly have been rolling since... well Invasions? Idk. But they have stalled ALOT. They put the Invasions of each main island into 3 different months! They planned to release mini games at once but then rolled it back just to stall-release one island! They told us so many times that new islandS were being worked on, from their blog "digging for new treasures" to NPC hints. Probably Raven Cove will just be one island for this side quest, followed by MANY islands for the Kraken-Jones quest. Again, I don't like how they stall so much for updates.

-Midhav

I agree, and I just wanted to point out, before the Kraken can even come, don't we need more islands, such as the wild native island in the movies? And what about ship wreck cove, singapore, or some other random islands?

What's the point in releasing the Kraken and a quest for him if we need to go back to the same old islands all the time?

Exactly mate! I really don't know why we DON'T have Shipwreck Cove. Maybe the PotCo crew got confused about its location (yes, it is in the Caribbean) or thought that it would be to complex to create or that it would bring in more lag.

There is a very simple and efficient way to remove lag... The game stores the memory of previous scenes. So if you leave Tortuga and go to Padres, Tortuga's memory is still there. Now, with all the undead that we battle and all the bandits that attack our forts, the lag is bound to increase for low graphic computers. They need to change that. This information was provided by our dear Edward Edgemenace.


We should have Isla Pelogostos with thousands of its natives, Isle de Muerta with unknown creatures... Maybe even introduce new factions like the Army of Shadows (refer:Legends of the Brethren court prequel novels). I would like them to EXPAND our world over the years. We should be able to teleport to other seas than the Caribbean once we reach a certain level. The South East China Sea and the Mediterranean are my preffered locations. There we can battle the Ottoman Empire (Turkish Prison etc.), Sao Feng's Empire, Barbary Corsairs, French/Spanish Treasure Fleets, pirates of Libertalia (prequels again), Army of Shadows and maybe even Atlantis/Crete. There is so much of a world of PotC that PotCo can expand into.

according to the second movie "and with the isla de muerta going all pear shaped" isla de muerta was reclaimed by the sea

They can always resurrect the island...