Level 50 Ponderings...
 

Hi folks...

I log on and play a little each day, and am in NO way in a hurry to get to 50.
(Im taking my time and enjoying actually having something to do!)

But, I have to ask - I keep seeing people at level 50, some with weapons totally mastered, some not. After talking to a LOT of friends and a LOT of random people - I have to ask, is it possible for most of these players to have already leveled to 50 without glitches?

I'd hate to say it, but the discussion in game leans towards people using glitches to speed to 50, or standalone programs to get there. (Which I was told about all week - tons of people are talking about speed glitches and more.) Its just hard to believe with the time it was taking people to get to level 40 even from 37 and up - that in this short time, people have done 10 levels fair and square.

Now - I personally don't care, but doesn't it suck a little fun out of it, or cheapen level 50 for those playing? The more Im on pirates, the more people Im seeing 'speeding' and even certain Guilds that seem to be using glitches more. You can visit Abassa Tuga for a few minutes at night to see some 40+ players who admit to glitching, or are visibly glitched - they stand around so much, I highly doubt they spend all their time on leveling. =/

We've already seen one level 50 who mentioned a 'weapons glitch' or 'secret weapon' for leveling, so I'd hate to say it, but that instance alone makes me question the integrity of many who've raced to level 50.

Again, play the way you want - but, I wish we knew who did it the intended way vs. the easy way. I'd certainly respect it alot more.

You can be sure that I am lvling the old fashioned way ;) but that is just this pirates way of doing things. I know of some that have done it... either way... hear no evil, see no evil... :D I am just having fun counting the reps! It is actually going fairly quickly and smooth - yahoo!!

Ya know... racing to the finish line is not always a good thing.... lol :D

If you ever want to join my crew - we are all having fun and welcome you :)

well said nelly...you captured what i have been feeling perfectly.

Well, some of the reason it took people a long time to get to 40 from 37 is because most everybody quested and leveled, leaving the weapons they like least, for last (at least thats the mistake i made), making it harder and more tedious for them to work up the nerve to just go do it.

I've heard of a method that takes place on outcast. You stand next to the npc and keep healing yourself as you use every weapon to get max rep. Which isn' t a glitch, but certainly a loop whole.

Whatever that reason people are rushing to 50 is beyond me. Wouldn't ye like something to do until the new quests come out?

As a leisurely playing level 40 (halfway to 41) I can remember - back in the day - when someone hit 40, it was usually after quite a bit of serious leveling, and speed glitches/leveling glitches weren't something people used at all. When someone hit 40, it was a BIG deal.

Its just that I wish 50 was something that could be celebrated - I just cannot see anyone sitting at the computer THAT long leveling the way Disney intended to reach 50 THAT quickly.

I guess Congrats to those who raced there - but, if they cheated or glitched for it - I'm just not impressed. Well.. either way I'm not really - whats the fun in racing to Master when many of us wanted things to do. These players are cheating themselves and now have no reason to complain about nothing to do. ;)

Create a new pirate and see how many days you can speed to mastered... thats fun. (rolls eyes)

So true Nelly. I know I'll be taking my time as well this round. I've begun to lvl with guild mates; rotating between healing and fighting- which makes it so much more fun! Not only am I getting to know me krewe mates better, Im also ENJOYING the game again.

When I was new to Pirates (and gaming in general for that matter) I was introduced to glitching. It seemed like an easy way to get 40. I was around 30's at the time. I hate to admit it, but I glitched a couple of times with my first pirate. When I finally did hit 40 I didn't feel proud or accomplished.. but rather ashamed. Now, I did lvl most of my first pirate the right way, but those few times I did glitch took the accomplishment out of reaching 40. So on my second pirate I made a promise to myself to do it the RIGHT way. When I hit 40 the second time, I have to say..it felt good to know I EARNED that Mastered title. I wish I hadn't cheated at all to begin with but I'm just glad I was able to realize my mistake and correct it. That's what counts in the end; admitting your wrongs and working to make them right.

As for those who are now hitting lvl 50 with the help of glitches, there is no real accomplishment. Yes you have a fancy title over your head but if you glitched to get there it really is meaningless. One must work for their goals, nothing in life is easy. If that's the way you do things fine by me. Just remember that when you cheat in life, you will never fully understand what it means to accomplish something, and therefore will never grasp what life is about.

“The road of life twists and turns and no two directions are ever the same. Yet our lessons come from the journey, not the destination.”
-Don Williams, Jr.

For those of you who have or will reach that goal of lvl 50 the honest way, I congratulate and applaud you. :buds: You should be proud of yourselves.

I agree, its a shame that a lot of people have to resort to glitches to hit level 50 "first"... the worst part, half those doing this were ones who complained about the cap in the first place!

But people can choose how they want to play is something else I agree with. I know of at least two people who have cheated their way to 50, and its a shame. But there isn't a thing you can do about it. Plus, if they want to be mastered, more power to them.. the rest of us won't feel the same way towards them.

People CAN hit level 50 without a single glitch, it just depends on how much they want to hit 50. I know of at least two people who have hit level 49, and one who hit level 50.. none did so with a glitch, and none of them bragged about doing so. They just spent a lot of time working for that rank, and thats nothing to be ashamed about.

Is glitching to 50 disappointing? Sure. Is there any reason to assume foul play because someone is already at 50? Absolutely not.

OK, please tell me there aren't trained chickens playing now .... that's just wrong!

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I'm with ya there Lady F, I'd be the first to bock at something like that, although cheating to level 50 is only something a fool would crow about.

Well - when it takes a long time to level - I have a hard time believing all these people did it without glitching. There is now a stand alone program that does the speed glitch - its all over the net.

I wouldn't touch it. I value my account too much to get banned or removed entirely. But - thats what everyone is talking about - including many of the Guild members and friends of the people jumping levels so quickly. :(

Of course the players themselves wont say a word... =/

I don't get the hurry myself & certainly not cheating to do it. I play several pirates myself. If I had only played with my first pirate Jade Willows she would be close to 50 now I suppose but I enjoy the differences of levels & personalities of all my girls so I set small goals for the day & play with the pirate of choice for that day or goal & then go on to another of my 10 girls. Some days I do more goofing around in Guild or just helping them with any leveling too. It is about enjoying the game & my friends ingame that keep me coming back!

Woops, heh heh. You know what I mean. ;)

Yes I have been on every day since the levels went up 8 to 10 hours a day.

I made 50 on Sun. all with out glitching, I did have friends healing me at tormenta when I was leveling. So yes there are some of us that did it the fair way.

But I will say from making it there is know way it can be done in 1 to 3 days like some did it with out cheating and the people that run the site should know this and take care of it. I dont care if they were on 24hrs a day NO WAY.

Thats my point! It takes time, regardless - I dont believe when I see people fly that quickly.

Recently, I saw a member who was a level 35 a few days ago, they are now a level 46. Does ANYONE really believe they did it fairly? (When most of the time, they are standing around at Tortuga?)

=( Unfortunately - the cheats make people question ANY level 50 who makes it there quickly.

I did it the old fashioned way. I reached lvl 50 last night 9/14. i averaged about 14 hrs a day. I did because I could. I have 2 other pirates that are lvl 40 with lvl 25 weapons, a lvl 38, and lvl 24. I can take my time on the rest of these or not, I have not decided yet. I wanted to see how quick I could do it. According to this site I am #25 using no cheats or glitches.

There are plenty of level 50 Pirates that worked hard.
 

:skull:You can level up quickly with a pirate and not be cheating. I just wanted to see how much I could if I focused on that alone for two days. I leveled up to 21 in two days. Granted it is easier with a low level. :mickeypiratezd4:

I just played smart, no quests except to unlock weapons and teleportation. Kept attacks weak and changed up weapons, used alot of tonics. When I got each new weapon quickly ran it up to level 8.

When doll was unlocked I did not leave Cuba until I had cure. Then I attuned multiple targets until Life drain.


All pirates deserve the benefit of the doubt. There are pirates that work hard too make leaderboards and level without using glitches. You never really know who is on that account, what they do and how much time they are online.


All level 50 pirates out there CONGRATULATIONS, I hope to join your ranks someday.

Of course you can - at a low level - but what I saw was a player who went from 35 to 46 in about two days. Big difference. And about everytime I went by Tortuga, she ws there. Didnt seem like the 'hours on end' leveling type.

I just wish Disney would do something about the Macros - I dont know if Im the only one, but Im SEEING all the speeders, and HEARING from everyone about the Macro being used.

Im just saying - I wouldnt risk my account, or my pirates reputation. But to some, 50 is worth more than that.

The long and short of it: are there cheaters, glitchers, macro micers and macro keyboarders? Folks playing for hours and days on end that are actually sitting at their computers? Yup. There are in this game, and every other game out there.

Should you let it have effect on how YOU play the game? Don't think so. Have fun being a pirate, be it 20 minutes a day, or 24/7, and let Disney take care of those that are breaking the rules.

Let Disney take care of the Cheats..lol
 

Yes I agree. Let Disney police their game and take care of the cheats.

On second thought, seeing as Disney does not police their own game UNLESS you type something they feel is inappropriate, im guessing you are completely out of luck.

Disney does not care if you use third party programs, as long as you are filling their coffers. The use of third party programs and macros are everywhere in POTCO. It is also to be noted that it is not like Disney cannot tell they are being used. Disney can tell. It's just that they choose to turn the other way as long as the money keeps rolling in.

As was noted earlier, just be a happy pirate who actually knows they have self-worth by doing your quests and leveling the only honorable way. With determination and persistance. Dont fall into the cheats trap of feeling the only way you will have self-worth is to cheat at an online game to make yourself feel like you accomplished somthing others havent. The only thing they have accomplished is the knowledge they couldnt do it without cheating.

*This post in no way refers to any individual or entity nor does it infer anything against any individual or group. It serves for observation only.

hmmm, last thought?
 

Seems there are many people trying to look on the other side of the Ocean and not tending their own waters. Perhaps, if more would follow the path you stated Sarah they would have more time enjoying the game instead of being so critical of others or trying to play POTCO Police. Exactly like Sarah said, You (Pirate) let others actions to affect you only if you allow it to.

Maggie, perhaps I simply did not understand your words here and perhaps this is not exactly what you meant, but it sounded like you meant - Disney doesn’t care about their TOS or the members who they made the game for, all they really care about is money, making money regardless of the product and people? I certainly hope I am wrong and the impression I am seeing in inaccurate and that is not the message your conveying to the POTCO community at large because I feel Disney DOES care about their people, their employees, and their guests just as Walt Disney himself did.

Disney cares about cheaters in POTCO, Disney cares about the happiness of it’s members of POTCO and Disney is doing their best to make a quality game enthusiast around the world can enjoy and feel they are living the legend and feeling the warmth of the torch that Walt Disney himself lit long ago.

Disney doesn't care about Macros. Maggie hit it on the head. And as a player, the macros and cheats DO effect FAIR players - in those speeders stealing reps, or in PVP, or SVS. We can't FAIRLY rely on the leaderboard knowing that macros and cheats exist.

Paying players should write and ask Disney to start banning those using macros. Period.

I play the game my way, which is the way the game was intended to be played. Fairly. When I PVP, or SVS, you can be sure I won't be cheating.

So to say 'mind your own' and 'play how you want' would be fair and accurate if the people cheating did not effect us all - but they do.

I believe everybody posting here has very valid points. So, I have a suggestion:

• IF you see somebody that is cheating and you have a problem with it, report it.
• IF some fellow speed glitching is jumping in "your" kill and you don't like it--report it.
• IF somebody is glitching in PVP or SVS and you don't like it--report it.

Squeeky wheel gets the oil.

I've been a reporting fool - but ONLY when Im absolutely 100% sure of it. I won't flood Disney with false reports. =)

When I play I am also sometimes doing other stuff such as watching tv. So I will be watching the tv while leveling a weapon. And what I end up doing is I'll be telling my finger to hit the attack key to kill the enemy and when the enemy dies my finger is still going which someone viewing could possibly see as me using a bot of some sort. So by reporting this as me being a cheater would be a false report.

What else is there to say?
 

Other then this, very to the point, answer what else is there to ponder here? If you don't like something you see and you believe its cheating report it. Disney bans players all the time and for much less serious things so report away. :skull:

I've been away for a while. I played a lot on test and just today I logged on to live for the first time in several weeks. The first thing I ran into was a speed glitch-master sinking every ship around me. His ratio was like 8 ships for every one of mine. His cannon was a machine gun.

I might have mentioned that he was a scurvy cheating dog...Immature, I know. He and his little friend then found me on the beach and began to threaten and complain and generally act the part of the fool. But he did admit to cheating and took a "so what" attitude. And honestly the only thing that bothered me was that he was sinking ALL the ships and leaving nothing for me. Sure, I could have switched oceans but I shouldn't have to. Should I? I did report him though...

This new era of third party cheats can chaneg the way I look at Reputation Levels. It could kind of be like the steroid era of POTCO. Cheating just ruins it for everyone. I have already left one game behind because of out of control cheating...and it was free. I hope Disney does get a handle on it. Something like Punk Busters maybe? Is that even still around?

Thank you for reporting him.

im not in a hurry to go to lvl 50. frankly ive been in 30's for a few months or more hehe

I have two level 40 pirates, one with all level 25 weapons... But I'm in no hurry either. What scares me most about rushing into re-mastery is this...What if they actually put in a new story and I'm already mastered? Then my entire point of being a pirate is shot all to heck...

That's why I'm in no hurry on any of my pirates - I play when I can and have fun. Since the update I have played more on my smaller pirates than the two bigger ones. And the two smaller pirates have plenty to occupy them - one is only about 18% into the Black Pearl Quest and the other still hasn't spoken to Joshamee, so about 3% done.

Hopefully later this year we'll see more updates but in the meantime, I have plenty to keep my pirates occupied.

:dancetl6:

I just worked on cannons and sailing so I could stay up in SvS but the rest will come slowly.I did notice that I still get rep from sailing even though it is now mastered.I dont think you used to did ya? Anyways if you can get there fast and want to more power to ya but if ya got to cheat to do it you shouldnt be playing the game.