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Moro1212 11-19-2009 03:25 PM

GMs
 
The events are fun the first time they happen. But are the GMs that nessisary? They never give any important game info to the "Regular Players". I always come on here and see that the same players let out all of the news that they have learned. I'm not mad at those players for that. I'm mad that I pay the same ammount for game access as them and don't get to learn stuff from the actual people from he game, but the gossip they get from the mouse. So whynot make those chosen few the GMs and just get rid of the distractions that they are throwing at us that they currently call GMs. All of the "events" are just a ploy to keep our minds off of the lack of a new story chapter and the Kraken. The new chapter which I think we have all earned to have within the last two years.

Jeanne Stormcutter 11-19-2009 09:28 PM

Moro1212, no one makes you read the news people post here? You choose to read
about the events, right? I know i try to post as many clues as possible, for there are people
who are not able to get all the information the GMs tell us. If one doesn't want to "ruin" their
game experience because this site offers you clues, then i friendly suggest that you simply
don't continue reading these posts. :)

Are the GMs necessary? Absolutely. Bringing the Pirates Online Game Staff near the actual
players is a great way for them to show us how much they appreciate us, and the other way
around. You can learn alot from the GMs if you concentrate on listening to them. If one really
tried to search for them i am sure they would find one. Ideal servers (mostly the A Oceans)
are the best places to start looking!

I personally am a bit tired of hearing about the Kraken. Yes, Disney said they would release
the Kraken before next year, but when dealing with Online Games things can pop up unexpected.
For instance, did you notice that they changed nearly the whole game during this year? Meaning
the new islands, new towns, new sky, new characters*, so basically the whole game interface.
That must have taken alot of money and time to accomplish. One also must remember that
Pirates of the Caribbean Online is a very young game compared to many others, and the developing
process is still rolling.

No new story chapter? I think that is not entirely true. The ghosts and Jolly Roger are the base
of our new story chapter, which quests will hopefully begin before the end of this year, but most
likely during the first months of 2010.

Whatever happens, Moro1212, i hope you are able to give the Disney Staff the required time to
truly develop the game into the point we are all able to enjoy it even more than now.

I am truly sorry if my postings from the GM events have somehow affected your enjoyment of the
game. I hope you find a few GMs yourself and feel the thrill when they reveal something more
about the upcoming events! :)

Sincerely,
Jeanne Stormcutter


*meaning the appereance and the way of movement

Captain Del 11-19-2009 10:34 PM

Although I always seem like I talk down the GMs, I NEVER take for granted what they do. As Jeanne said, they show how much they appreciate our loyalty to the game by getting the chance to take part in events, that might not ever happen again. The reason for the GMs is to try and give us something to do while we wait for the content. I give Disney a round of applause for that, because they are always striving to give us something to do. Besides, I enjoy their random appearances, mainly because it adds more to the role-playing, "your a pirate" aspect that most of us love. It kinda gives us the feeling we actually are living the legend, you know?

The only thing I don't like about the GM events, is because its telling us we still have to wait more time for content. Sure, I hate how they always dangle the content we yearn in from of our face, but thats how business works. You promise them that something is coming, hold out on them so they stay for longer peroids, but feed them "mini-content" so they won't leave, then finally grant their wishes, and repeat. The GM's aren't just for our sake, their for Disney's sake.

Besides, if you don't want to learn about what the GMs said, and keep yourself in suspense, then theres only one thing to do. Don't read the posts! Its not fair that they should ruin the fun for those who appreciate the GMs, just because a few pirates don't enjoy the mysterious aspect that the GM's apply. Besides, all of these GM events are leading up to the story chapter. You need to have some sort of filler in between, if the story chapters are going to jump shift so quickly. We can't go directly from liberating the Black Pearl to defeating the armies of Jolly Roger, without any background information to help tell us, what the heck is going on!

Bug 11-20-2009 12:19 AM

I appreciate the posts here so if I have missed seeing the GMs I can at least keep up on what they said. Thank you to those who post anything new or any information you have gotten & are a Mate enough to share it.

Captain Whale 11-20-2009 02:08 AM

I too truly appreciate all the info that is posted. I have only seen Constance once and it was so disrupted by rude pirates that she barely said anything and left. The whole ghost story was laid out here for those, like me, who work alot and can't get on all the time. It was awesome to be a part of the story even though I wasn't there.

When I am lucky enough to see a GM I will post it here for those like me who want to know but can't always find the GMs in game. Like when I found Captain Rott the other day.

I agree with Captain Del. All the new reworks, Rott's quests, new events and the ghosts are all laying the ground work for what's to come. I for one am enjoying the ride.

I have never played a MMO where the GMs are such an intricate part of the story and the game. Tis truly awesome - so post away Jeanne! There are several here who thank you.

Captain Whale

The Skirata Clan 11-20-2009 02:11 AM

I don't mind them. I think Disney is indeed King when it comes to entertain their guests even when nothing is going on.

gingeeann 11-20-2009 02:55 PM

I play Disney's Pixie Hollow, they do events with Famous Fairies all the time. I think they do a much better job with the events in Pixie Hollow. The Disney people give you time windows so you can plan to look for them. They also hit more servers not sticking to the few overcrowded ones. Also many times there is a bonus gift when there is a special event.

MacIronhawk 11-20-2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanne Stormcutter (Post 179200)
I personally am a bit tired of hearing about the Kraken. Yes, Disney said they would release
the Kraken before next year

No new story chapter? I think that is not entirely true. The ghosts and Jolly Roger are the base
of our new story chapter,
which quests will hopefully begin before the end of this year, but most
likely during the first months of 2010.

Can you please quote where they said the Kraken would be released before next year? Becaues when I read that news article, I remember them saying something like, "we're working on all of these things and hopefully we'll release them before the end of this year".

Also, where did it say the second story quest would involve the ghosts and jolly roger? How can they be the base of the story line if we have no idea what it's even about? For all we know they want the second story quest to be about Davy Jones.

I'm sorry, but unless Disney tells us, "The second story quest will follow the ghosts and Jolly Roger" I can't agree with that.

The Skirata Clan 11-20-2009 05:51 PM

I totally agree there Mac.

Jacob Morgan 11-20-2009 06:15 PM

The last I read in the Developer's Diary back in April or May it stated the second chapter was to deal with the Kraken. It also said they were having trouble with the rendering of said beastie. Now if this is still the case, I don't know. Big D may have decided to go in a dfferent direction and I missed it. Not trying to perpetuate the myth just passing on what I've seen on the web site.

Capt C Ray 11-20-2009 06:45 PM

Moro1212,

I have been playing the game for since Feb of 08. I play every day for at least an hour. I have been able to attend most of the announced GM events, although it is hard to learn much at these since there are always those pirates tha thave no respect for whats going on.
I have been lucky enough to see Constance twice, both because a guild mate sent the word out. And I have had 2 chance encounters with GM appearences.
I think it is great that some of the actual developers working on the game take the time to visit us pirates in the world they have created. It is always exciting when they do. If they were to do it too much, the excitement and suspence associated with their appearences would be gone.
Keep playing the game and as mentioined, play on some of the lower A oceans. Who knows, ya might get lucky.
Good sailing.

Jeanne Stormcutter 11-20-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 179346)
Can you please quote where they said the Kraken would be released before next year? Becaues when I read that news article, I remember them saying something like, "we're working on all of these things and hopefully we'll release them before the end of this year".

Also, where did it say the second story quest would involve the ghosts and jolly roger? How can they be the base of the story line if we have no idea what it's even about? For all we know they want the second story quest to be about Davy Jones.

I'm sorry, but unless Disney tells us, "The second story quest will follow the ghosts and Jolly Roger" I can't agree with that.

Well, umm, before next year (2010) means exactly the same as before the end of this year (2009)...?
At least in my books! Or did i understand your question correctly?

Disney has just introduced us the new main enemy, Jolly Roger, which we are to defeat. Wouldn't it
be a bit odd to bring in for example Davy Jones, since he obviously doesn't really fit in at all?

From what i've learned from the Disney Movies they always have a reason for everything. Of course
we can not tell exactly what the new story quest will be about, but why would Disney introduce
Roger IF he had nothing to do with the future events?


//Edit:
Also, i never said Jolly Roger and the ghosts would be our next story chapter. I said they are the base
of the new one, an introduction chapter, to the new story chapter, which content we can't be sure of yet :)

MacIronhawk 11-21-2009 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanne Stormcutter (Post 179393)
Disney has just introduced us the new main enemy, Jolly Roger, which we are to defeat. Wouldn't it
be a bit odd to bring in for example Davy Jones, since he obviously doesn't really fit in at all?


but why would Disney introduce
Roger IF he had nothing to do with the future events?

I agree that it may be... different to have Jolly Roger and Davy Jones up in the game at the same time, seeing as Davy Jones died in the third movie. However, this is the game and it can be different than the movies.

Disney can do whatever they want with the game, and if they do anything the way they do in Toontown then the invasions will be here forever. That's even after a possible story quest to defeat Jolly Roger comes. If you compare what they do in toontown and pirates, it's very similar. It would only make since for them to keep the invasions forever so any incoming members can experience them. They don't take away invasions on toontown so I think they'll keep them, too.

Also, I agree that new events involving Roger may occur. Just like the new invasions that will be on Tortuga. It would make sense to have Roger be the next sotry quest with the additions, however, I think it could be anything. It's more likely(at least it looks that way) that the new story quest will involve jolly roger. In my opinion, I would like to see Jolly Roger AND Davy Jones be part of the next story quest. Mainly Davy Jones, but hopefully something to the likes of us joining Davy Jones and fighting Jolly Roger. Then in later quests we betray him, get rid of him, and join Jolly Roger. This could be like the french and spanish quests, only bigger.

This is a THEORY, and for all we know they could do something else completely different. I for one know that whatever they do, it won't be strange. Hopefully Barbossa will get "killed" off and we need to save him or something and then fight the Kraken. Well... I'm trailing off now, but you get the idea. Disney can do whatever they want with the game and as long as it's not getting rid of it, I'm happy.

I for one will just wait and see what happens. As long as the second story quest comes out within the next... whatever, I'm happy. But I'm getting tired of waiting, and toontown only took this long releasing BBHQ. The others took about a year and a half. I wonder what's taking them so long to releasing something that doesn't take too long.

ex8404 11-21-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanne Stormcutter (Post 179393)
Well, umm, before next year (2010) means exactly the same as before the end of this year (2009)...?

Well, umm, the key word was "Hopefully." It means "wouldn't it be nice but don't count on it." Don't believe me? Well I am working on buying you a new car and hopefully I will be able to by the end of next year. Now, when you ask me when you are getting your new car, all I have to say is, "Sorry. It didn't work out. But I WAS hopeful!" I think that is what he was trying to point out.

I do wonder what all the mad desire for the Kraken is about. Is that what is going to save this game? A giant squid? Or would an entirely new story be better? And from the looks of things, we are getting closer!

As for the GM events. I don't seek them out, have never stumbled across one and don't really care either way. They have never had anything to say that is going to change the way I play the game. I DO get some interesting tidbits here and that's cool with me. But I play, maybe, 5 hours a week? Am I going to stake out a random server in the hopes of getting 500 gold from a ghost? Not when I have maxed out gold...

Don't get me wrong. The GM events are just fine. But they are nothing to get excited or upset about if you miss one. Trust me.

jason davy 11-21-2009 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex8404 (Post 179628)
I do wonder what all the mad desire for the Kraken is about. Is that what is going to save this game? A giant squid? Or would an entirely new story be better? And from the looks of things, we are getting closer!

I think the Kraken and a new story may (hopefully) be the same thing. ;)

From the Dev Diary, April '09

Quote:

The Kraken. This beast has proved to be a real challenge. Why? Well, it is basically our next story chapter, many things will be tied to it, such as Notoriety increases, new Story Quests, and so much more. So we ask for a little more patience while the dev team wrangles the monster. I know, I know, we keep saying that - I promise you, the Kraken will be more than worth the wait.

Moro1212 11-23-2009 08:49 PM

Sorry I thiink I may have worded that wrong. First let me say I aprecaite all of the posts that you guys make. It seems like I get more info about the game I love from here. Your post keep my eyes focused on the horizon and fo that I thank you. What I was going for is that if a GM is going to tell us that new weapons are coming or even a refrence to that or any update they should announce where the GM is going to say that on the site or the launcher news feed so we can all hear it in game. I just seems like it would be more fun for everyone. Again I love what all of ou here do. I just think it is bad form on Disneys end to not let everyone know something like that. They have not even put it on ther site yet. It just seems shady to me. But then I wear tin foil hats.

JakeTheSnake 11-26-2009 06:08 AM

I think its crowded enough when GMs do show that I'm glad it's not announced. Imagine if Mickey Mouse wore a GPS locator at the park so everyone knew exactly where to find him! There would be such a constant throng of people around him that nobody would ever get a good picture with him. I think we should look at GM events as icing on the cake (a delicious, piratey rum-cake), and not as something that D owes us.

skullduggery bones 11-26-2009 08:47 AM

I totally agree. We are lucky to have an interaction with those that develop the game. Why some people go out of their way to spoil it for others I dont know. If you 'get into character' at these role-playing events, information is always forthcoming. Shouting at the top of your voice 'WHEN IS THE KRAKEN COMING, YOU PROMISED IT US THIS YEAR' does not.

combatlizzy 11-27-2009 04:43 AM

I appreciate those that take & have the time to post about these events. The chat logs that are posted must take an enormous amount of time to put together. Time which alot of us don't have to do these things. Today's event took place on every server if I am correct. These people took time out, many from their holiday, to enact these. And for that this pirate is grateful. The Host GM events would be so much more betters if ppl would listen & ask pertinent questions. Having to tell ppl to "Stow your Weapons" or "Show respect" gets tiresome. I have left events because of disruptive actions. And as far as the story or the next chapter...I always liked suspense novels...never exactly certain what is to come next although you know there is something additional to come. I believe wholeheartedly that all that has happened is leading Pirates into the next chapter. And this pirate is excited about what is to come!

Eliza Creststeel 11-27-2009 04:53 AM

GMs are NOT necessary.

That said - I AM HAPPY THEY ARE OUT THERE!

You can follow the scripted quests, level your weapons and endlessly repel invasions... but then what?

Do you feel that involved, that entertained? I used to be one of those who was discouraged by the lack of new material during the long dry spell last year. And often we vented that the GM events were to cover up that fact.

So, NOW that there is a wealth of new material coming out on a regular basis... the GM events are a bonus. They had to the reality and give the AVERAGE player a chance to interact with the story line.

As GM of ETC - it is our policy to behave at these events, to the extent that a member was nearly removed for their attitude at such an event. This is a game, but there are those who want to enjoy it and the RP events is part of that.

If someone doesn't care for them - DON'T ATTEND. It will cut down on the lag.

EC

Captain Whale 11-27-2009 02:18 PM

I for one work for during the week. I can't be on on the time. A few hours a night during the week when I can and then I get to play some on the weekends.

The good pirates who post information and chat logs are the only way I get to know about alot of this stuff. I am sure I am not alone here. These pirates are obliviously networked together through thier guilds and friends. When one finds a GM they all do. They have earned the GMs respect through repeated role-play and are treated as such.

I don't see many other pirates posting much here so I for one glad to see it and hope they continue for all of us that can't make or find these events. I post when I see something but never think to take screenshots when I do so it' s just verbal. I will work on that.

Mates if you want to see the GMs get your guild involved in looking for them. Make sure your mates understand to show respect and to role-play with them. They are usually on the lower A servers so have your members walk through Port Royal every so often and look. My guild has been doing this for the last month or so and its making a difference. We are catching more GM events and since we are respectful we are getting some notice. You need to go out and earn it mates. Good hunting to you!

Captain Whale

CarribeanThunder 11-27-2009 02:55 PM

Quite the long posts, everybody. I pretty much agree with most of the people up there ( Zeppers, Jeanne, etc. ). The GM events are neccesary, because usually, there are hints as to upcoming events and updates ( excluding the supposed Kraken and new story quests ). If you don't wish to participate in these events, that's fine, you won't get banned for not going lol.

I usually try to go to all the GM events possible, but I usually don't make it. But that's fine. The EITC GM events were good, and useful about learning the upcoming events. Same as the ghost GMs.

Angel Seafish 11-27-2009 04:35 PM

Agreed. I have to admit, I'm addicted to pirates online and play long hours, then eventually I have to get off before an invasion. But yeah this is unfair. It seems like classified information only some players hear. This is what TEST servers are for. I really want to be on a test server. Actually my mom said that I am someone who should be on one lol. Ok Im off subject. Maybe the GM's shouldn't be an actual person, just like a robot like on club penguin, how rockhopper was just a animation programmed what to say and where to click. They should put pirates who work long and hard on test servers because you know they would be reliable.

Captain Del 11-27-2009 04:50 PM

Well, having an automated GM really defeats the purpose. The GM's purpose isn't just to give little hints here and there on what is to come, but also to give pirates the feeling that they are getting involved with the game. Knowing that theres an actual person on the other end really takes the whole interactive role-playing aspect of the game to a new level. Besides, with a GM that wouldn't react to what you would say (it being a computer) it would just be dry and boring.

Also, if the GM's showed up on the Test servers only, that REALLY defeats the purpose. Thats just giving those with special privileges, even MORE special privileges. Besides, the larger portion of the POTCO population ISN'T on Test. Open is the actual game, where players get to experience the game and its content. Test is just there to TEST the content first.

And another thing. The GM's ARE NOT showing favoritism towards other pirates. Thats the very reason WHY they show up on the more populated servers. They are trying to get more people to see and hear the information first hand! Its not like the GM's show up on a quiet server where only a select few of pirates are. They go to the places with the largest variety of pirates, so that way the information has a more likely chance to trickle down. Its not Disney's fault some people always find the GMs, and that some people never find them at all. They are trying their best to give players as much information as possible, while not having to post it on their site. If Disney posted what the GM's say on the offical POTCO site, it defeats the purpose of the events.

However, while I say this, I GREATLY appreciate the pirates who post what the GM's say on the forums. They help me learn things I probably wouldn't have known. So, in general, if Disney posts the hints/information that the GM's say directly on their own site, it defeats the purpose. But if the PIRATES, who heard what the GM's say, post it somewhere, like the forums, then its bringing MORE to the purpose.

Captain Whale 11-27-2009 05:10 PM

Bingo! Well put Captain Del.

When ever I am lucky enough to find a GM there are so many pirates there that it gets laggy. lol. So why are all those pirates not posting what they see and hear? Believe me they are there. Again thanks to those who do post the info for the rest of us. I too will post what I find out as well. It's one way I can give back to the community that is keeping me informed.

Captain Whale

Sven Osymthe 11-27-2009 05:14 PM

I agree with a lot of the posts here, and I too appreciate the fact some people actually take time out to post the information they find.

As the others have said, if you just spend the time looking for these events, then you will eventually come across them. Searching servers, asking friends, or asking a guild, sooner or later someone will come across an event.

As some others have mentioned, those that are posting the information are taking the time to do what I mentioned above, search for the events. Sure, knowing where and when the event will take place is nice... but how many times has a GM released the location, only for it to be crowded with A LOT of players? I would rather spend a few minutes asking around, than head to one specific location knowing that it will be like a mini-Abassa.

swordshot 11-28-2009 01:06 AM

Dear Moro1212,
Here you dont have to read the posts and threads, but if you want to know the gossip before most pirates do read it! The reason whhy and how i say that is because the POTCO official website is slower then this by about 2.12 seconds.The only reason why that is, because the site is ran by Disney.In Disney.com, there are games, downloads, videos and much other stuff, so thats why its slower.Therefor you would like to hear the news before the people outside of POF, read this site.Anyways were all hoping for a new story chapter, it may happen HOPES UP!




Play POTCO until the POF team get the news.( Not saying im on the team i think its just the mods,founders,ECT.not Pirates.) How you know they have the news?You can know they have the news? 1. By opening up the POTCO window to log in. 2. Look on the left side on the log in window. 3.There it will show the new news. 4. Open up an search engine. 5. Go on http://piratesonlineforums.com. Then you are good to go, all the news will be there!





Uh.... Yes the GMs are nessisary.They are the ones that planned them, so why dont they get a turn?Plus its fun with them around, unless there is one that goes like on your events "Uh..... oh.... yes im supposed to start the party..... uhh..... yes thats it..... everyone that has a - anything(as in bomb) -. sorround - anything(as in the giant bon-fire pit) - and - anything(as in light up the fire) -."(i had a GM like that to start the feast, he was BORING!




In the next story chapter yes it will be about the kraken,jolly roger ghosts, lightning and new fog system, more of a spooky type story chapter( this should of been in the first paragraph sorry)




~i rock :D (swashbuckler)

MacIronhawk 11-28-2009 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i rock6336 :D (Post 181023)
In the next story chapter yes it will be about the kraken,jolly roger ghosts, lightning and new fog system, more of a spooky type story chapter

The new fog system is coming out in the next update. It's on the test server now, so it shouldn't be long.

However, there's no evidence to support that the second story quest will be about the Kraken, Jolly Roger, ghosts, or anything else.

Until it comes out, all we can do is guess. For all we know they want to go with the movies and we'll have to kill the Kraken this story quest, and the next story quest will involve getting rid of Davy Jones.

All we can do is guess as to what the story quest may be.

CarribeanThunder 12-05-2009 02:58 AM

And even then, the Kraken will never die ( same as the Goliath always comes back to haunt us :laughks2: ).

As mentioned by MacIronhawk, nope. No evidence as of yet. GMs try their best to actually give us hints about what it will be like, etc, but since it hasn't come out (and I quote):

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 181062)
...all we can do is guess.


Angel Seafish 12-05-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Well, having an automated GM really defeats the purpose. The GM's purpose isn't just to give little hints here and there on what is to come, but also to give pirates the feeling that they are getting involved with the game. Knowing that theres an actual person on the other end really takes the whole interactive role-playing aspect of the game to a new level. Besides, with a GM that wouldn't react to what you would say (it being a computer) it would just be dry and boring.
What I mean is that it could be like the bots on messanger. You can have an actual conversation with it. And I think Disney should just do that. And that way they could have them on different servers.

JakeTheSnake 12-05-2009 09:18 PM

It seems like making automated bot GMs would take a lot of time and programming to be able to respond to all kinds of different things that we would say to them. I'm just glad that NPCs say more than just "Sorry, I've got nothing for you." That was a little annoying and the things they say now add a little flavor.
With as slow as D is about releasing updates, I'd rather see them focus on giving us some updates with stuff to do like story quests or other things to do with other players than see them spend their time making bots that won't actually provide much in the way of game play.
It would be nice, though, if the GMs would visit the quiet and ideal servers a little more often so that those of us who don't like HUGE crowds can have a little interaction with them.

Captain Whale 12-05-2009 11:10 PM

Jake the GM events this time around are on the B servers not the A servers and the crowds were less at the ones I have made it to. I heard the afternoon one on Friday was really busy though.

Angel are you asking for a GM Kiosk? Like another NPC that just gives out game lore? You walk up and talk to him/her and he gives you that weeks info? I am just trying to understand what you are asking for. That's what it sounds like you want. This would not be intereactive at all and just pop off that weeks headline.

The GM events are interactive and loads of fun for those who like such things.

Captain Whale

Angel Seafish 12-06-2009 05:16 PM

CW,
I'm not talking about the NPC's. I'm talking about like a bot that responds to what you say. Maybe MSN could help out a bit lol.


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