tips to obtain the el patron lost sword/famed weapons
 

please i not only do this for myself but for the people who spend hours of this and can't even obtain a single famed with your genuine advance is greatly appreciated

exactly what im thinking, i think that maybe crew bonuses and weak weapons might help, and i would try places like tormenta, padres, cangrejos, etc. i dont know this for sure, but i got a master work broadsword at isla cangrejos. . . .

you might want to try using i triple barrel pistol or dual barrel. use venom shot and dont " take aim ". it MIGHT help.:12_1_138: oh, and sailing helps, my friend, silver moon, she got el patron from a navy centurion, crazy huh? :psmiley27:

Trust me guys, its pure luck, unfortunately, but I have been able to figure this out.
NOTE: The numbers Im using are made up, Im just using them as examples.

Lets say we have a level 40 player. If he attacks another level forty enemy like a Seabeard, his chance of getting the Lost Sword of El Patron is 1 in 500 (just using the lost sword as an example, and again, just random numbers). Now, if he goes and attacks a level fifty Thrall Captain, his chance of getting the lost sword increases to 1 in 300 because the enemy is a higher level. Now lets say it was just a lv 45 Seabeard. The probability is still higher than it would be with an enemy his level, but less than the thrall captain's. Now the probability is 1 in 450.

Now lets say he attacks an enemy thats a lower level than him, an Undead Raider Lv 30! Now his chances of getting the lost sword decrease, and now it is 1 in 600. Bosses probably count for something so you guys know, just havent been able to figure out how significant it is...

If you think about it, this is why it is harder for level 50s to get good loot, because they dont have enemies that are a higher level than them!

Hopefully you guys understood what I said lol, its kinda complex....
To put it simple, enemies that are a higher level than you will give you better loot.

Yes, in order to get a famed weapon, you need to use Crude weapons, have a full crew with at least 5 lvl 1 basics, wear completely red, and then, and oonly then, may you kill Darkhart every hour EXACTLY on the hour to get one.

Seriously, don't bother with any rumors like that. All you need to get a Famed Weapon, or even a Legendary Weapon, is Luck and Determination.

However, if you use the prefered method of using a boss (Darkhart/Neban/Dartan/etc.) killing them fast is a good thing. Fast kills = more loot in less time.

I have been using grenades alot and I got El Pats sword and a few famed weapons from Timothy Dartan and Darkhart. Good luck!

lol I have no lost relics but I do have the El Patron lost sword. It took me 30 minutes to 1 hour to get it on the day that it came out. 1 of my friends found 2 lost swords lol! Hopefully you can find 1. But, I don't think that you can find them as easy as before. I haven't heard from anyone who has got it since after a month of those updates were out.

Edit: I found my lost sword at Darkheat. I have heard from people who had got them in Tormenta but I have never seen anyone who has accualy goten it in a loot drop from there. If anything in Tormenta it would be located by the Thrall Captains and other enemies. I found a guy who had 24 notoriety and had the sword. I wonder how he got it.

Well Now you can say ye saw one looted on Tormenta.
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I used a Great Broadsword to kill the molusk to get it.

While leveling my staff I have found 5 famed items in the gold room from molusks and seabeards.

The only famed items I have gotten from Darkheart is the War scattergun and Golden Charm.

Neban dropped a Bloodfire Broadsword for me a few days ago. The rest of the famed items I have found have come from random skeletons in the catacombs, and El Sudoron.

I only go to Tormenta for the rep now they wont drop any famed weapons for me only darkhart will. I wish I could go in becketts quarry and el sudoron but these disconnection issues have been invading me.

i have a proven method its not rumors or anything i have tried it and it work its about the number of ppl and the enemy i have done dark hart alone with another person 3 ppl 4 ppl 5 ppl and 6 ppl the best number for getting good weapons is 5 to six ppl it actually works cause when u attack alone for some enemies it gives u zero to a pouch 2 ppl pouch to chest 3 ppl chest or skull 4 ppl chest or skull five skull but not always but those are the best possible loot drops the enemy might not give anything or it might give u a pouch but that is the best way to get a skull with five ppl once i got a skull ,pouch ,skull ,pouch ,skull it is also about luck but it is good if u attack dark hart with 5 ppl total ive tried it it works and too many is terrible so never go to abbassa to attack him if u care about loot and not sure about this but it sometimes makes a difference if u dont repeat weapons so try not too. try it and dont judge with out trying it its not mumbo jumbo its facts ive gathered over time which i recently finaliced
*might not work all the time and for all enemys but it the best we have

These methods cannot be proven correctly. How many kills you got to get that skull, pouch, skull, pouch, skull? How many kills and what kind of awards you got with the different number of crew? Did you got the same amount of kills with the different number of people in crew?

The drops don't come because of different combinations of facts. They don't come by just attacking and killing a certain enemy a certain amount of times. There is no way to say 1 in every 100 get a loot. They just do. Its all about luck. Just play the game with the best weapon you have and if you get lucky the Congrats, if not, well just enjoy the game.

Luck you can't change.

Determination you must keep going....

No doubt Disney has their equations on how best to get these things.

I, like many others it appears, got the lost sword before Disney changed their equations, within the first hour of play after it was released on the main servers.

I have thrown away duplicate and not useful famed weapons in order to open slots... I have thrown away no less than half a dozen famed weapons, but, in hopes that Disney will come around and allow people to trade, I've kept my three Patrons. Knowing the powerful broadswords are by far the better weapon than the Patron, and I have yet to get the top level broadswords, I will trade for that first.

Okay... back to getting drops. YES, of course Disney has their equations, and of course probability is involved. I for one appreciate any input anyone can give me to optimize my chances, so I find this thread very helpful. And no, I am no help at all, because I'm not getting any good drops lately, which means, I am not savvy to the latest Disney equations.

Not only does Disney change the chances of getting something, they change what that something does, so by the time you get that prized item, it may be impotent to your purpose. I noticed that I finally got my dream item on TEST (rumrunner's scroll) only to find the advantages of the more powerful sea scrolls were greatly lessened.

So... bottom line... please post your experiences... it's the best hope we have of passing on the present equation experiences of us players to one another. In that regard, I am a failure at present.

Well being in a crew helps. If you have 6 people in that crew and a skull drops, then there are 6 chances for a Relic to be found, as compared to one if you are alone. Granted those other five chances will not benefit you, but Relics do drop more often when you are in a large crew simply because of that.

Also if you are in a crew, you go through the enemy's loot faster. Say a famed weapon drops every 50 kills. Then you can kill those 50 enemies faster with a crew, making famed weapons drop more frequently.

its not a certain amount of times go ahead try it kill dark hart alone several time then with u and another person then 3 ppl total then 4 ppl total then five ppl total go ahead dont judge before u try it the more ppl the better drop not too many ppl though but thats how it is on dark hart for me and my friends is it so hard to try it

exactly wat i was saying and ive tried it ive proved it among my guild

I am not judging Roger. I am questioning how did you came up with this conclusion. If it works for you it works for you. I am asking if in order to prove this method did you do the same with all the different variations. How did you came up with those probabilities? How do you know that the bigger the crew the bigger the chances?

I have 2 lost swords of el patron, the best place to get them ( in my opinion ) is the gold room on isla tormenta, i think i was using a staff... the tribal chief staff to be correct, i never got a screen though, :sadmh9:

Well, It sure was easy for me to get the lost sword from the gold room, I used a staff, and I also got a gold charm, G'luck with the searchin mates!

Think about this:

If you recorded EVERY drop, (Including varying gold amounts or dagger throws) you would say, "Okay, my chance with this monster is one in a ..."

If someone ACTUALLY did this, we would be able to calculate which monsters would have best luck to get this sword.

This is a stupid reply, I understand that, but what if someone set out on a quest to do this?

Not really as "stupid" as you think, Pirate Mikeyy. It would just be an amazingly complex and time-consuming study. There are SO many variables that go into each and every "kill" that it would take an entire university research team to do the work.

Think about it... Your level versus the monster's level. Is the enemy human, un-dead, or animal? Time of day both in-game and real world. Location, number of people in party, their individual statistics, the weapons being used, the weapon statistics, the type of weapon and whether they were purchased, earned or found. Might even want to look at quests started and finished, clothing, how long the battle lasts, or even the kind of boats the pirate has. Does wearing a hat matter? Or is it the server? Or the tattoos the pirate wears or the jewelry. Male or female? Does a pirate stand a better chance if he or she has all their treasures or none of them? Am I missing anything?

I guess that what I am saying is that the rare drops are either totally random or based on a specific set of occurrences. Either way, you won't be able to figure it out and it certainly won't be as silly as "Sleep next to Darkhart for 24 hours, wake up, attack him and kill him in exactly 37.8 seconds using only a spork found in a north trash bin from a Taco Pirate restaurant while humming Yo Ho Ho and a Bottle of Rum."

The thrill should be in the hunt. :piratetongueor4:

I hear having a circle of mastered pirates all jumping around you while you attack people helps a lot, also wearing no shirt (if you're a guy pirate), the running shorts and going barefoot triples your chances of getting a famed weapon.

Yeah, all you need to do is fight people, a lot, and maybe a few bosses. I've found two famed weapons, no lost sword though (sad, i know) but I just kill people however I like, and the loot comes to me. Some guy on abassa told me using only cutlass, and killing Darkhart really slow gets you famed, and then I got 800 gold in a skull chest using a blunderbuss. Then I switched to cutlass, and I got almost no loot, and if it was I got a sailor's cutlass or something. Totally proved me wrong.

iM MAD I THINK THAT DISNEY SHOULD COME OUT WITH A CODE IF no more ppl get it as of january 2011, SO THAT every pirate CAN HAVE PATRON I MEAN REALY 1,000 OF PIRATES SPEND MONTHS LOOKING FOR 'EM & THEN THERE R LIKE 3 PPL WHO HAVE LIKE 24 & ITS JUST UGH!!!

You know..... I've heard that if you glare at Darkhart by the light of the Muertos Moon for five minutes, then stand on your head and sing It's A Small World while engaging in battle with your toes you can get the sword in just one try. :P

LOL, it's not about fair. Random is random. It happens or it doesn't. I know guys with 2 and 3 swords. Personally I have 18 pirates and no sword. Really, it's not that big a deal. Sorry, but with all the new cursed blades it just seems to me there are far better weapons than a rusty El Patron. Just a thought. :D

I don't really have any tips... becuase I have awful luck... Thanks for the tips from you guys though

heres my theory to it
1 disney resets servers at random when there looted most servers have 5 famed and 1 legendary and several rare/coomon weapeaons im not sure about full servers the chances might be boosted but i have looted quite servers on end that im am sure have reset you can tell by lag and lot of loot drops and i have NEVER and i mean NEVER got more then 2 famed in 1 server in a whole day of playing so i recommend after getting a famed switch to another server with friends the amount of ppl at the enemy also help your chances like someone said in a earlier post 5 or 6 ppl with you can greatly boost the chances of a skull at a boss also the KPM ( kills per minute ) also matter the faster u kill the more loot drops the better the chance of getting a famed after the server gets looted it will dtop famed/legend


Hope this helped :D

the quest is glitched right now & my dagger isnt strong enough for sliver freeze so thats the ONLY legendary i can use

I do believe there is a method to the famed and legendary weapons. It's a pattern. You just got to figure it out. A few thoughts: The less powerful weapon you use against a boss, might intitiate a bigger drop. If you are a basic member, that might initiate a bigger drop because Disney wants you sign up for a paid membership. A big crew against a boss might initiate a bigger drop. I have also noticed before fighting a boss, make sure your ammo is filled..gun ammo, cannon ammo, dagger etc.. Alot of the first drops are always ammo for whatever weapon your low on..
Nothing is random..it's a computer. You just gotta figure it out. :)

I have a new twist to all your theories (except the one right above this one) :
Basic memebers have a higher chance of finding famed weapons!
I have proved this! I have an unlimited and a basic account. My unlimited person is lv 38: 2 famed, 1 of them cursed Doom Stinger. My basic person is lv 34, never got to do the El Patron Quest bc it wasnt out the last time I had unlimited on him: TWENTY-FOUR FAMED (36 if u count trashed) NONE of them are cursed.
P.S. Downside for basics: Lower chance of finding legendary.

Shes right, it is just a CPU. theres always a pattern

I agree with you..I have a friend who is basic, he's

a level 44 basic. He's got over 30 famed, and two legendary.

Y'know, I've always had the best luck when I'm not looking for a famed.

I find that if I purely go to Darkhart to work on say, grenades with no thoughts of a famed, I usually get one after about a half hour to an hour. I've looted famed out of skulls, chests, and pouches, so don't be thinking "oh, it's a pouch, it's gold and a crummy weapon, I'm not even going to bother." I've looted famed off of Darkhart, some enemies in Tormenta (I think they were Brinescums...) and the four raiders right in front of Bonerattler(?) in the Catacombs. I think I've even looted a few fairly nice rare ones off of Gravediggers in the PR graveyard... but anyways.

My point is, try not looking for them. Have fun playing and don't play purely for the weapons, work staff or something, and who knows? You might someday be the owner of El Patron's and 20 famed weapons.

Story time!

It was nearing the end of December. I had camped out at Foulberto Smasho for hours at a time, without getting the Silver Freeze I wanted so badly... I gave up. I decided that I would go back, just so I could get Vipers Den Knives and complete my collection of famed knives. First loot drop. Nothing. Second loot drop, BANG, Silver Freeze! I wasn't looking for it, and I found it.

Catherine is right. If you look for something, you don't find it. When you look for something else or for nothing at all, thats when you find it. It sounds cheesy, but it always seems to work....

I've been waiting for the Red Words, Lost Sword Of El Patron to show up in a skull.

In that time (I've been here since febuary 2010), I have received the World Eater Blade, Silver freeze and 70+ famed on 1 pirate. 3 famed on the other, a level 33, I might add.

Also in that time my sister has received 2 lost swords and no other legendaries, Maybe 30-40 famed.

What i do is go to Ravens cove or Isla Tormenta and just go to the place where theres high levels but its all about when u go on to the server because i got a famed right when i swiched servers. If u want a famed or legendary its all about your luck and your best weapon plus where u are at the right time! Go to a server were u and 3 friends can just loot and the right server like ideal but mostly quiet.

I been playing this game since Jan 2008 and I have 2 Legendaries lost sword and Silver freeze daggers and 28 famed from the dark Mutineer,blight fang edge,Seven sea cutlass,Doll of sacred Rituals and etc. and every rare that ever been released in game. Sorry say with limited inventory system more than half those weapons are in the trash. But I have found that sever run in cycle that busy severs do more drops in hour than a quite server now i get six rare hour and 1 or 2 famed. But have found that if i am on sever that drop are slow 1 Sculley every 20 kills then i will jump to another busy server same location the drop will be every seven kills will be Sculley and that sever will stay at cycle unless someone will come in and mess up cycle. OK let me explain three people at Raven in mine with four ghost where all using sword and we been there 45 min's on great a cycle where getting Sculley every 5 kills loot bag and chest and it continue that way but someone will come in start throwing grenades or different weapon than where using it stops cycle every time and we start getting nothing. But reverse effect happen when there a group say at DH there all using sword and daggers and nothing dropping but a few loot bags and then another person will come up to that group and use a weapon that there not using boom there Sculley and cycle get good. Like they said above there a lot variables, a lot of luck and timing . i play a lot i kill about 1600 to 2200 enemys a day what i explain above i ve seen repeat it over and over. i always keep my inventory clear of all crude and commons i have told a lot people that don't every get famed to keep inventory cleared common and crude everyone of them started getting more rare and famed. Sorry for novel but thought this might help few of you and i got my lost sword at DH but it was from skeleton on his right side bye fence and silver freeze is easiest legendary out of bunch at foul because i have got that 3 time there go when it real ly busy on abassa sever there will be tons lag and use sword damage foul a lot you will get silver freeze . I hope this help's this works for me several other people that have more weapons than i do Keep plundering hard work plays off.

Yep, that worked for me as well! :P
Also, faster kills = faster loot.

Are you guys serious?i havent gotten anything! all i get from dark hart is gold and junk! ive been in the thrall room and the bridge on tormenta for days! DAYS... its driving me insane im not getting anything! nothing! any tips?

The only thing I can help you with is make sure you are stocked up on all your ammos...cannon ammo, gun/pistol ammo, grenades..and healing potions, before you fight a boss for drops. If you are not stocked up allot of the first drops are ammo types...it's a waste of potentially good drops.

Second I think being in a crew or a partner raises your chances of getting some good items..I fought against Neban the Silent on Padres for an hour, i got nothing ! another player came along...I crewed her and the first drop was a skull chest with a rare voodoo doll in it.

I also can tell you is Abassa server when fighting any boss..raises chances of finding rare and legendary weapons. For whatever reason....

Good Luck!:12_1_138:

Actually you can find an el patron at any level at any time. You could just be starting the game, after you do what you need to do and really go free and try and kill some skeletons over in the grave yard. Lvl 1 skeletons while you're level 1, you can kill one of them on your first ever kill and get an el patron. Though you cant use it. It can be completly random.

People have told me that enemies spawn with what ever loot they are going to give you.
THIS IS FALSE!!!!
The loot is completely RANDOM.
I spend the entire day in 1 place on 1 server.
I have 17 famed (1 repeat) and ive only had this pirate for a month.
The best thing to do is find a server that is dropping skulls every 10-15 kills and camp there.