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Tiberius Fireskull 09-25-2010 06:32 PM

Open Chat vs. Speedchat Plus
 
Ok, well I was just thinking about why POTCO has the two chat options... and I really dont understand it. Why is it that someone who is below the age of thirteen cannot type words that are not in POTCO (very limited) dictionary? Why is it that someone who is 11 cannot type the word "bit" but a 14 year old can? I really don't see POTCO's reasoning for this. If it is to make it so that "kids cant be abducted" or something crazy like that, lemme say this. A 15 year old, who has open chat and can type numbers and all, is just as open to harmful people as an 11 year old. It just doesn't make sense to me why POTCO limits people under 13 to a dictionary. There just seems to be no logic in it for me.

Also, the Speedchat option (the one where you can ONLY choose words from you list) I believe can be hard for the game, and should maybe be removed, unless the child is 4 or something, in which case they probably shouldn't be playing a game like this. I was leveling Lyze once, and someone who was a couple levels higher than me started attacking my kills. I told him to please stop, and the ? came above his head, saying he was Speedchat. I tried to use phrases from the Speedchat list, but none said anything like "Find yer own kill!". He kept following me, so in the end I pretended to go AFK, and he left. Still, it is hard...

Anyway, I know many of you will disagree, but could someone please explain the logic to me of why people below 13 should be limited to POTCO's dictionary?

James Bladefury 09-25-2010 06:38 PM

Mainly because younger kids are not as experienced as older players and could make bad decisions. This is disney's way of preventing that so younger players won't be upset with others. Or some player says something very rude and they do not understand the meaning, so they ask their parents. . . in which they ask - where did you learn that word. . . kid stops playing game = less $ for disney.

Beorn 09-25-2010 06:45 PM

Potco is not the one limiting the chat. They are parental controls. The option is there so that parents can make it so that their kids have a limited dictionary.

Tiberius Fireskull 09-25-2010 06:47 PM

Still, it doesn't make sense to me why they have all those words that they dont let speedchat plus users say, numbers for example. Seriously, most of us speak Speedchat Plus fluently. Won, to, tree, for, hive, sticks, sven, ate, nina, tin. I dont see why they just unite speedchat plus and open chat, and just make it so that curse words, and other inappropriate words wont go through. Why is it that a 12 year old cant say bit, but a 13 year old can? Doesnt make sense.

Davy Darkrage 09-25-2010 06:53 PM

While there are ways around the SpeedChat Plus whitelist, Disney at least has to make an attempt for legal reasons and those protective parents.

As for the complete Speedchat, I do not see many players with this, however in a family game, sometimes options such as this are needed. Up until recently it was the only public chat option in Disney's other MMO, Toontown. SpeedChat Plus has since been added and I hear Open Chat may come eventually. It is probably more understandable for that game, targeted at younger ages, but whether they should be or not, very young children may be playing Pirates as well.

titanic95594 09-25-2010 07:07 PM

If only I lied about me age. Sadly if parents want there kids to have open chat big D still wont allow it.

Beorn 09-25-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by titanic95594 (Post 257477)
If only I lied about me age. Sadly if parents want there kids to have open chat big D still wont allow it.

Did not know that. Thanks for the info Titanic.

Cannonfury 09-25-2010 07:19 PM

Disney does it for safety....I am sure, the 1st incident that happens(hopefully wont happen)...Disney will shut down potco.

Tiberius Fireskull 09-25-2010 08:04 PM

Eh, I guess I can see why parents may want their kids to have a certain chat setting... but I still don't see why POTCO doesn't just filter out only swear words, etc.

Captain Jason 09-25-2010 08:09 PM

Most people lie about their age when making an account anyway for this very reason.

Davy Darkrage 09-25-2010 08:14 PM

Numbers are filtered to prevent the sharing of personal information.. As I said, while there are ways around it, Disney must at least make an attempt to prevent it so should anything ever happen, they can't be completely to blame.

Ofury/ Tom 09-25-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titanic95594 (Post 257477)
If only I lied about me age. Sadly if parents want there kids to have open chat big D still wont allow it.

Sadly your wrong. Your parents can create a Disney account and link your account to theres saying they are your parents then they can have all the options for your account inculding speed chat or open chat.

Dog Firestack 09-25-2010 09:08 PM

The only way for someone UNDER 13 with their age in their account is if they transfer their pirates to an open chat pirate account. You have no way to change to open chat, as D doesn't allow it.

Pirate J 09-25-2010 09:14 PM

For some reason you can say RAWRIMADINO in speedchat plus lol P.S Thanks Crest for telling me that :P

Tiberius Fireskull 09-25-2010 09:14 PM

Actually, yes you can. You can go to the parental controls and change it. Thats what happened with my brother. Although we had to phone them because the process is confusing.

Dog Firestack 09-25-2010 09:16 PM

You can't, it says, error, because your account is not 13 years old.

Ofury/ Tom 09-25-2010 09:18 PM

you can because i've seen it done with my bro.....

Dog Firestack 09-25-2010 09:21 PM

Mine keeps saying error, and that you can't change it unless you are 13 with the age in your account.

MacIronhawk 09-25-2010 10:11 PM

The chat system is perfectly fine for POTCO, other than some words being blocked such as bit, and phrases that are perfectly fine.

If you're under 13, I'm really glad they make it so only your parents can change the account options with a parent password, because kids shouldn't be changing around their chat preferences just because they want to say numbers, and see other players say numbers.

It's for their own safety, whether they like it or not.

titanic95594 09-26-2010 12:40 AM

I dont get it who can I trust?

Jibby 09-26-2010 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 257543)
Actually, yes you can. You can go to the parental controls and change it. Thats what happened with my brother. Although we had to phone them because the process is confusing.

Indeed, I've tried a couple times and it's not very clear.

Chimera Doll 09-26-2010 01:09 AM

Davy, I agree with you on this.
It's annoying they block out words that have nothing wrong with them...
The numbers thing I can understand but other words that aren't bad?
Doesn't make sense to me.

Tiberius Fireskull 09-26-2010 02:31 AM

Anyone ever notice that "cut" is filtered? Shouldn't be a big deal, but umm.... Cut, Swipe, Gouge, Eviscerate? Hmmm.... weird huh? And half the Davy Jones enemies arent in the dictionary... and a bunch of lost weapons (Skullbone, Scoundrel's, Mercer's, loads more), Darkhart, Darton, I can go on and on. They should seriously update their list.

MacIronhawk 09-26-2010 02:35 AM

Some people will use words that seem perfectly fine in situations where that perfectly fine word sounds similar to an inappropriate word.

Those words have been taken out of the game dictionary so younger players will never be exposed to words that they don't need to be exposed to.

If a word seems perfectly fine, it probably isn't. There are people out there that will use perfectly fine words so they sound like bad words.

Chimera Doll 09-26-2010 02:42 AM

True, I've thought about that.
But names such as Jay are red words....that doesn't make sense.
I think there are a lot of words that should be accepted.

Tiberius Fireskull 09-26-2010 02:46 AM

Seriously, if they added something into the game, such as a weapon, enemy, clothing item, etc. that uses a name that isn't in the chat dictionary, they should add it. Cut is a basic dagger combo. If that is inappropriate, why have it in the first place? And there are plenty words they allow that players use in place of curse words (then again, maybe thats good so they don't say the actual thing.)

Chimera Doll 09-26-2010 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davy Fireskull (Post 257661)
Seriously, if they added something into the game, such as a weapon, enemy, clothing item, etc. that uses a name that isn't in the chat dictionary, they should add it. Cut is a basic dagger combo. If that is inappropriate, why have it in the first place? And there are plenty words they allow that players use in place of curse words (then again, maybe thats good so they don't say the actual thing.)

Yes! The weapon, enemy and clothing item bit I have been thinking about recently.
It sucks when a younger player doesn't know what others are talking about.
Also, "Chimera" is a red word but while on test I noticed it wasn't. Nate pointed out it's probably because of the fish Black Chimera, so I believe they will be changing some words once the updates hit test.

Tiberius Fireskull 09-26-2010 02:55 AM

I thought I remember being on test and being able to type bit.... but I cant be sure....

Jibby 09-26-2010 04:04 AM

Hey Davy, how did you get open chat?

Tiberius Fireskull 09-26-2010 04:08 AM

Whoof, it was a while ago. Can't exactly remember, but it you have to go to parental controls under account services on the main POTCO page. I would just get some help via phone or live chat, because it is quite difficult to figure out.

Captain Sureshot 09-27-2010 06:07 AM

To adjust Parental Controls, go to this page, log in if necessary, and then click on the Community Settings tab. Your settings will affect other Disney sites you may use.

Slouyx 10-04-2010 03:17 AM

I do not see a very big problem with Disney having a speed chat plus and open chat option, however, like some of you mentioned, there is a few words they should add. The only thing that bothers me is when other players take advantage of someone having speed chat plus. There is open chats that think they are "high and mighty" to speed chat plus players, and will do things like ignoring them completely or purposely saying things they can't see. There's no way to avoid this, really. I don't think everyone should have open chat, though. There is young kids on this game, and Disney would be in trouble if younger kids on the game were getting upset from open chat players.

tayseth 10-11-2010 06:56 PM

Try talking in the Abassa sea.

Everyone has speedchat.

I laughed. :D

WitchdoctorDan 10-14-2010 01:43 AM

I can't imagine people going, "Alright, instead of just cutting out swear words, lets make a list from scratch, and put some Nazistic reign over what kids say."

P.S.: Forty will go through, but no other numbers.

Tiberius Fireskull 10-14-2010 01:45 AM

I noticed that too! The only numbers that go through are zero and forty. Zero I guess is understandable, and maybe letting forty go by is because that was the old level cap? I dunno though.


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