Coin flip ban
 

Yep, I was on Abassa today and people who were doing the coin flip to people were getting a knockout and a ban. Lot's of rumors, so I suggest avoiding people when doing the coin flip, they will get a knockout and a ban supposedly. (I saw the knockout, not the ban) Maybe there's a secret GM on Abassa or something. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Thats strange... are you sure? Because that is really odd for Disney to do. I would complain to them, because that is not right.

Trust me, they did this a few months ago. People on Abassa Tortuga kept getting knocked out, sometimes for a reason and sometimes for no reason, and if you got knocked out more than twice, you got a disconnection message saying "A ban has been placed on your account" and such. It's not a rumor, it did happen. There was of course, people making accounts and going on Abassa just to get knocked out, or people trying to get knocked out and banned in the first place. And yet, the GM's even knocked out AFK people, or people who were honestly just sitting back and watching the chat. You couldn't see the GM's and they weren't talking; but you'd get knocked out and get sent to jail straight away. Is it something to complain to Disney for? Not exactly, if you were one of the people who was trying to get banned, but definitely if you were one of the "AFK" people who came back to see your pirate in jail and a message saying "a violation on your account has been found." They are doing this most likely because of people doing the "inappropriate coin flip" action on Abassa. However, if they are going to remove this feature anyway, there's no need to make an "attack" on people on the game-especially those were most likely coin-flipping AFK.

Apparently Disney can change their rules whenever they want to...

The GM is gone for now, someone just tested it, nobody even knows who though still, I'm only staying on Abassa to stay caught up on the news.

And Slouyx, I didn't hear about that, but I did see someone just running by getting an instant jail. No reaosn at all too.

This is true. My guildmate on that attack a rage ghost thing, she kept getting knocked out. Then got banned. But for coin flipping? Why? Makes me laugh at the ones at Abassa who think there cool getting sent to jail.

Wow, I wonder why they would do that? Let us celebrate the amazing emote known as the coin flip while we still have it!

I say we all go on a quiet server, start a coin flip, and then see what they do.... :P

What if a Captain Walter's Ghost just came online and banned us all? I say we do it! :P I agree with Captain Sharktooth too...

The coin flip has recently been used as a BAD thing which is not to be explained... It is going to be removed next update it is already no longer on test. People that are getting knocked out are probably doing this BAD thing while flipping a coin. and Disney Moderators are always watching....

I dont understand why is it getting banned?

Wait, what is this BAD thing that you keep talking about Tom? What can be bad about coin flipping?

i really hope those pathetic excuses for "staff" at Disney are reading this thread. that really stupid, banning people for using the coin flip. they don't even have the decency to add a cooler emote like "sharpen sword" or "clean pistol"

glitches thats wat

I would like the idea of the sharpen sword thing... That would be cool.

lets all go to a server right now a quiet one aND DO COIN

People use the coin flip to go inside other people's personal space and do inappropriate actions. Their own fault, for removing personal space. Now we're getting punished for an action they did.

Oh... I think I see now... that may not be a good thing. Wow... thats really immature.

true dat
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Still Abassa is all but trouble. People who thrive their HAVE been banned sometime ago.

Thanks for clearing that up for me i couldn't find the right words.. :D

Not always true I've never been banned and neither has my mate Madison Redskull but we go there occasionally we go there.

i've never seen anyone do that. why don't just make punishments swifter and harder?

Wow, I hate to sound like a ranter, but I will answer SEAKING's question the way I think is the correct answer.

Disney likes to take the easiest way out, regardless of what it is. In other words, they are lazy.

This isn't as controversial as it is silly.

Yes, the main reason Disney is doing this is because of those that have twisted the emote, but they, in a respect, lack depth perception. They seem to be knocking out people that are both using the emote the wrong way, AND the right way. I'm thinking that Disney failed to realize that the coin flip emote is actually a good emote when it comes around to standing there and doing nothing, and not everybody is manipulating it for the "lulz."

I don't know about you guys, but I can flip and catch a coin just fine without having to move my hand up and down like it's a boulder. If Disney would simply get rid of the up-and-down motions instead of having to eliminate the entire emote, there would be a LOT more people who would be content with the current situation.

Least to say, immaturity by some affects all. From now on, if you see a friend, or anybody, manipulating a feature in the game to get a response, then I suggest you tell them to stop. We don't want this to keep happening, now do we?

Well Idk if it would work its already gone on test and probably coming here very soon..... but yes its my favorite emote i'm always doing it... I would like it if Disney would just change it to a stationary hand.

IF Disney wasn't so lazy, they probably would make more money. but, no they have to be lazy and make the game as lame as possible without losing customers.

I don't think this game is lame.... I Happen to enjoy this game alot! You have to make it fun not keep saying its lame or thats what it will be in your eyes.:skull:

They might as well take out the primp emote as well, because that does the exact same thing(If worse).. But that stinks! They should at least do some tweaking on it! :sadmh9:

Disney taking away the /coin emote on their part is just as immature as it is ridiculous. It goes to show that they are assuming the worst in the simplest things and usually end up taking the worst possible approach. Like the "***Spamming***" feature they added, they should only limit the amount of times you can do an emote per minute. For example, after doing the /coin emote, you'd have to wait about 20-30 seconds before doing it again.

I don't understand how they ban some features due to some unruly players, like the linked accounts for example. Obviously if an account has been banned, you shouldn't have been able to access that account even if it was linked.. for example, logging on to a friends and switching over to the suspended with a message saying "This account is temporarily suspended" or whatever. All in all, Disney needs to step up their game when it comes to taking things with a practical approach, otherwise it just tends to get embarrassing and a sheer annoyance to the players.

What disney is doing is the "easiest way out". In other words, they are being really lazy here, and we now have to suffer for it by losing one of the favorites among emotes.

If Disney does take away the coin flip emote, they should add a new one, like being able to clean your teeth with a dagger, or perhaps the ability to crack your knuckles constantly. Though some might be misusing the coin flip, taking it away without adding another emote to fill the void is harsh.

Actually, my guild mate pointed it out to me. There are two versions of the /coin emote.. as strange as it is. Pirates will still be able to do /coin emote where the avatar will continue to carry out the emote as usual.. However, they are taking away the other version of /coin that is available in the drown down menu by the chat.

Careful Crim. Disney reads these forums, and if you are right, then if they see your post they may take that method away as well.

I'll test that Crim, and hopefully if Disney is reading this, then they'll realize how mad they made they're customers.

EDIT: I just tested it, and Disney did take it away, or at least the way I thought you said it.. :(

I'll try to clarify from the point of view is to how my guild mate explained it to me as well. There are two different stances for the coin emote: one where the avatars legs appear to be separated slightly and the other where they are basically side by side. The emote in which they are planning to take away is where the legs are separated which is the emote found in the drop down menu. This emote is simply, if I were to do it.. "Crim flips a coin." However, the tails and heads one which they are planning to keep is "Crim flips a coin... Heads." Personally, I see no point in taking away the emotes, but if they are going to take this type of approach.. well, I find it unnecessary

This is very interesting, banning people for something THEY made...

I was in test, about the same time this happened. I had I a friend who told me about it. I still don't know why they have to remove it. they can just fix the code or something.

Ok, I was pretty mad that coin emote is going to be gone, but now, on abassa, THEY ARE KNOCKING OUT AND BANNING PEOPLE FOR USING EMOTE??? Maybe there IS a secret Gm... (shutter) that's kind of unnerving to think about. Abassa is the number 1 crime server in the game. o__O

this is stupid theyremove it wha i think the ppl who do the bad stuff would get banned for being stupid anyone with me?

I'm with you... but Disney would never give themselves a ban xD

lol yea lol @_@

Are you saying I can just do a /coin Crim? I tried it and nothing happened. Sorry I don't exactly get what you mean.

Jason what you explained that happened on Abassa sounded like "abuse of power" to me. I mean if I were there and I used /coin by myself in a corner on Abassa Tortuga Beach with no one around me and having a Disney Employee "knock me out/ban me" when they did not mention it on their website or in their rules of using /coin just sounds odd/weird. :bookishfj7: :piratewheelgo2:

I haven't tried it yet on test, but from what I heard the /coin emote should still work considering that Disney said in their updates that the head and tails function still worked. There was two versions of the emote. "Crim flips a coin." and "Crim flips a coin... Heads." The second version is supposed to still be working, the first however is supposed to be taken away - though I can't guarantee it, only from what I've heard.

Personally I don't use the emote that much anymore since they've made the /glare one, but either way I still find it an impractical approach to solving their issues.

Crim, you interpreted it wrong. What they meant is it will still say "Davy Fireskull flips a coin... tails/heads." It will SAY that. The action no longer works though.

How totally odd...I personally have never witnessed anyone doing so-called abusing of this emote but I'm sure people can think up creative things. Beyond me as to what they would be, but interesting that the emote is being abused enough to be taken away.

Never realized there were two different stances, Crim. Thanks for pointing that out...

Oh, when it was explained to me and seeing that there was in fact two stances I was assuming they were just taking out the regular "flips a coin" rather than both. Well, like the tides, apparently we all have to adapt to Disney's unorthodox approach to handling its players..

THAT'S what you meant! Thanks for clearing that up Davy. Kinda disappoining though.

If they do that I won't play - because I spend most of my time standing around primping all the time. :)

Ok guys, this is a really, really desperate hope, but maaaybe, just maybe, this would work. We could try mass emailing Disney, telling them to keep the coin emote. I mean, it's desperate, yes, but its worth a try isn't it? Maybe while we're at it we can have them put /kneel back in too?

I will e-mail them right now.

First, how is it getting abused? And second, I think we should ask Live Chat dudes about the sudden bans and knock outs.. If it isn't realated to a glitch we would just say we thought it was one...

I agree with Davy, we're all - well most of us - are paying $10 a month to have the features we enjoy being taken away because of a few people. They should be fixing these things rather than deleting them, our subscription is their paycheck

Just gave them a long email... it sounded kinda ranty, which I didn't like, but anyway, I hope that it will make them reconsider. Guys, here's a tip. Don't just tell them "Removing the coin flipping emote will make some players upset." Make sure that you connect it to them, and say why thats bad for them. For example, instead of saying what I said before, say something like this. "If you remove the coin flipping emote, some players may get very mad about this, and some may even leave the game. Many of these people would be your paying customers. If you let them leave, you will be losing money, which is bad for you. If you keep this emote, you can keep your customers."

Really, if you bring that in, it should nail them.

We should also tell them about personal space and kneel, kneel was fun while it lasted, kinda like a bow type of thing. If we say that they should bring back personal space, we should say how it could fix the whole coin flip problem.

Only thing I can comment about Disney's irrationality in handling this situation is this: JOB SECURITY.
Instead of wasting your time banning immature brats (and even banning innocent players, all because of your misguided arrogance) who can't respect the establishment of decency on the game, it would best BEHOOVE (benefit) you [Disney] if you paid more attention to the players who actually have some sense, respect your rules, and PAY YOU to make the game better... We don't pay you to sit at a computer chair waiting to ban the next person you see flipping a coin on Abassa, nor do we pay you to remove cherished features like the flipping the coin emote all because a few idiots can't get over themselves. We pay you to make the game better, not worse/annoying, so starting doing something that actually promotes PROGRESS for the game, NOT REGRESS.

That would be HILARIOUS! :laughks2:

But on a more serious note, I would send them angry e-mails. Don't ban me for doing something in a responsible manner, just go ahead and take it out. BOTH ways out seem utterly ridiculous.

Well...
 

Well... I talked to Live Chat about this and this is what they said to me:
Hamed: Greetings, how are you doing today Matey?
Me: Hi, I'm a bit upset at the game right now. How about yourself???
Hamed: I am doing great actually! Thank you for asking. I understand you are upset regarding the Coin toss emote?
Me: Yes you guys removed it.
Hamed: I am sorry you feel that way. I will be happy to pass you point of view along to our product team for you. In the future you are also able to submit your suggestions directly to them via an email to [email protected].
Hamed: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Me: No mate you don't seem to be seeing my point, you guys have upset the entire game, but removing the flip a coin animation. Not only are you taking away people's favorite emote but players are paying $10 a month or more and you guys take it away?
Hamed: I will pass your feedback along. However this was done for a reason to avoid any sort of abuse of the emote and for the safety of our younger pirates in the game.
Hamed: You are more than welcome to voice your dismay about this matter via an email to the address I have provided for you.
Hamed: If there is no other issue you need help with I will end this chat now.
Me: No one i know is abusing the emote mate. Also people were probably doing that because you guys let players go threw other players -.-
Hamed: I thank you again for sharing your point of view with us and for visiting me in Live Chat.
Me: -_-
Hamed: You have a great day and smooth sailing to you.

That guy really didn't want to talk about it. James, I really wouldn't be surprised if you were the 100th person that guy had to deal with that day regarding the incident. I had no better luck with my email I sent them. They seem to be avoiding an actual answer... Below is the email I sent. After that I will post the reply. Sorry for the messy looking email. I really don't want to have to format it.

Hello POTCO team. I am emailing concerning
> something that you are getting rid of in this game. Something that me,
> and many other players (I have actually asked them, and they agree with
> me) believe is something that is a simple yet important part of this
> game. The coin flipping emote. Once you release the new clothing
> merchants on the main islands, the coin flip emote will be removed. The
> coin flip is one of the most loved emotes among players. Getting rid of
> it is going to not just deprive many, if not most, players of their
> favorite emote. On the extreme end, some players may even leave the game
> because of this, depriving YOU of your customers, many of whom are
> paying money for this game.
>
> Yes, I do understand that the coin flipping emote can be used
> inappropriately; however, this does NOT mean that you should get rid of
> it. Getting rid of it is a very bad choice on your part. Instead of
> getting rid of it, change the way it works. Perhaps make it so that the
> hand "bounces" less when it grabs and tosses the coin. This would allow
> players to keep the emote, and it would make it so it cannot be used
> inappropriately. Not doing this is neglectful on your part. If you
> simply get rid of it, you are not doing your job of pleasing your
> customers, and it in turn will cause many to stop paying money for the
> game.
>
> I highly urge you to keep this emote in the game, for the player's sake.
> Getting rid of it will make a lot of players upset, and I know that is
> not what you want. Just change the animation so that it cannot be used
> badly.
>
> And yes, I do know that the "Joe the Pirate flips a coin... heads." will
> still appear in the chat box, but this is not important. It is the
> actual animation that matters. Please do not get rid of this emote. It
> will not end well with players.
>
> Please forgive me if I sound like I am attacking you, I am not. I am
> merely trying to persuade you to keep this part of the game instead of
> trashing it.
>
> Also, I have seen people getting knocked out and supposedly banned on
> the "Abassa" server for flipping a coin, and not doing anything
> inappropriate with it. If this is so, then that is unfair and harsh on
> your part. If you are going to get rid of it, which I hope that you will
> not, then at least let us use it while it lasts.
>
> Again, I am not trying to attack you nor complain, just pointing out
> things that I feel are in the player's and your best interest.
>
> I will not take any more of your time. Thank you in advance.


Reply:

Ahoy <Insert Name>,

Thank you for contacting Pirates of the Caribbean Online.

We appreciate your extensive feedback on the coin flipping emote. We are always pleased to hear from our Guests and welcome your comments, as we are constantly balancing and making enhancements to the game to make Pirates Online a fun and safe place to play online.

Again, we appreciate your comments, and look forward to seeing you in the Caribbean again soon!

<Insert Name>
Pirates of the Caribbean Online Member Services

Such a personalized response eh<sarcmark>

By the way guys, when you are posting emails or live chats, keep the worker's name anonymous. Even they deserve to have privacy.

Mind if I just copy and past that Email? I might be able to send a link to this forum page too, if you guys want me to.

Its your choice, but I would prefer if you sent a different email. Different wording at least. And yes, send a link to this forum page.

I am going to do something, I thought I might never be capable of, going against POF... I have to go with Disney on this one. I mean, they have looked at all the different options, and I support them 100%. The emote abuse is being abused by immature players. And it MUST stop. One solution we might suggest is putting an age limit on the coin flip. Well, a lot of kids put random ages for their date of birth. I would know. My friends do it all the time. Another solution might be to add personal bubbles again. Well, that produces another problem which is another story I'm not going into... So, at the concluding part of this semi-ranty paragraph, I would say I back disney 100%. And that just like in life, a few bad seeds, can ruin something for everyone.And on the plus side, the more immature players that get banned, the less on the test server.

Not trying to be rude,
~Muffin Pirate

Muffin! How dare you! Lol, kidding around. I see your logic, but I honestly don't think that Disney should do this. First off, I will point out the obvious. It is one of the most beloved emotes, and it will anger people to see it go.

Now, lets move on to this. From what I have seen, the reason it can be abused is because the hand motion is quite "bouncy". Now, if Disney just decided to do a little extra work for the sake of the players, they could change the animation. If they changed the animation just a little bit, so that the hand doesn't move up and down, or it barely does, then the problem will be solved. It really isn't that hard, and Disney is taking the easy way out, which is angering many players.

Just my 2 cents. And WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE MEATY MUFFIN?!

I'll try to send it tonight.

First, it was the /Kneel emote. Then, /Bounce (which really didn't do anything). And now /Coin.

This all stems from the same thing. Players using an emote to mean something vulgar or insulting or positioning their avatar so the emote looks inappropriate.

At what point will this end?

The brats on Abassa will simply move to another emote action and abuse it instead. How about /Glare or /Bored next? It's not like we have a HUGE list of animations anyway. We've had no real new emotes in years and they continue to remove what few there are.

You can even make some weapon use or loading animations vulgar or MEAN something vulgar if you want. Would they drop them too? And the rest of us suffer for it.

If the Abassa "brats" keep abusing these emotes, theres nothing to stop them from doing so... They could put an age limit on the game, but then those brats would just put a random age as I said before... The only other option I can see right now is to ban anyone who abuses these emotes from the game for life. It should nto be tolerated. You don't have to take it out of the game, just ban someone for life. Nuff Said.

I agree with muffin pirate. if someone is reported for doing something like this, it should not be tolerated. unless it was an accident.

Umm... ok, so wait a second. When I found out exactly HOW people used this emote, it is not always the coin users fault. I don't want to go into depth on it, as the mods may not like that, but I will say this. Sometimes yes, the coin user will go up to a person and start using it abusively. Other times, however, the coin user will just be minding their own business, when someone will come up to them. In this sense, it is the coin user performing the action you could say, but they are not the one's that are doing anything wrong... I'm sorry I had to be so vague, but I would prefer not to tell exactly how it works.

I agree with Eliza.

Again, reprimanding an entire group for the select actions of a few will only make the mounds of manure grow high, and higher, and higher. You'll just be making more and more anger from those customers that enjoyed the feature, who focus it both on the abusers of the emote, and the company itself.

Yet I'm getting ahead of myself. I've taught myself that in order to get an opinion as close to politically correct as possible, you need to wipe out bias like an outside viewer, and see the perspectives of each sides. And in this, I can find three sources of "blame:"

1. The Abusers - Really, the root of the problem. This pattern continues over, and over, and over again. First with kneel. It was an emote that was supposed to express loyalty and gratitude, yet was twisted in to another meaning. Then, with bounce.. well, I won't go there. But now, with /coin, perhaps the most frequently used emote in the game, we're slowly eating away at the "character" that is added to this game through our very limited "emotions." And the sad thing is, I'm positive these pirates will see our reactions, laugh in amusement, and then go off to manipulate another emote.

2. Disney - They seemed to have jumped the gun when it comes to this situation. They could have just as easily editted the emote to remove the bouncing of the flipping hand, instead of just deleting it. Whoever is their response analyzer in terms of fixes, updates, and edits, really needs to focus a little more on farther points of view than having to yes the developers to death.

3. Us - Before you say anything, hear me out. We've really allowed ourselves to bipass the everyday activity that goes on when it comes to using an emote. If you just so happen to see somebody and his or her friends doing something inappropiate with a context of the game, 9 times out of 10, a usual pirate won't say anything. It's kinda like the people you see one What Would You Do, where their simple response is, "Ey, if I'm not involved, it's not my business."

I'm not saying that everybody here doesn't act to stop this immaturity. But what I'm saying is, we need to be more diligent in how we keep our expectancies in this game. When morale gets low, it will spread, and this will continue to go on, and on, and on, and on. We need to start to step up, and spread the maturity.

So, what am I trying to say? Don't punish a whole because of a fraction, use a wider view, and, mainly, "If you see something, do something!"

You nailed it Delmaria.

Also... what did the bounce emote do anyway...?

Thank you :)

It did absolutely nothing in terms of motion, but it showed up in chat as "You bounce up and down."

Thats what I thought... but then how could it be abused? I mean, I could see someone going into a certain position and then using it, but it is almost meaningless because there is no motion, correct? If so, why get rid of it?

Lol, Disney.

Lol, Abassa.

Honestly, kneel was one of my favorite emotes, along with coin. We're lsing the limited amount of emotes we have. What's next? Dance? Glare? Bored? Eventually they'll realize how they aren't doing much as in terms of helping, but they'll probably just think it's to much work to throw back in the emotes they took from us when they didn't need to. And I'm sending Disney a short Email like Davy suggested, and I'll try to put a link in to this page.

Can somebody set this straight for me? If I go out and do /coin several times, is Disney going to b7 me for something that ALMOST looks offensive when used in personal space?

Wat?

For right now, it seems that the bans are occuring when pirates do the suggested actions with the emote on Abassa. I'm guessing the mods are solely watching that server, because it's the largest consistent concentration of pirates in the game. I'm not sure whether you would be banned if you and a few others did the same process on a quiet server, but it might be possible.

When does it all stop? When will D realize that almost everything here can be seen from a different view? Like it has been said it all goes back to D removing the personal space allowing us to walk right throw others.

An AFK female pirate is bent over sleeping a male pirate comes along and stands inside the private space of the female pirates backside. (use your imagination from there)

Female pirates go to see Will Turner and stand on his back side with their upper region near his left hand as he does his thing.

Lol those actually sound cool and you were just using examples! But I don't get what's so "inappropriate" about flipping a coin. And why would they take it as far as banning? Barnacle is confuzed! :sadmh9:

Aye mate all signs of bored kids, just being kids!

I have a solution to this problem(bored kids). Release new stuff in game weekly! Idle gamer hands do the work of the gamer devil!

Oh, now I think I understand how those immature people make flipping a coin turn into... you know. I agree with Del, Disney should just let the players act against it, not a GM or whatever it is that is banning the coin-flippers. We're really running low on emotes and aren't the players of the suggested age to play the game able to not use the emote immaturely and ignore the immaturity? But, not to be rude, I also think its ridiculos if you quit potco just because of losing an emote, how could you be so attached to an emote? I agree with just leaving the hand stationary, but players have to act out to keep the emote.

My brother actually noticed a motion that one of the tattoo artists does when applying a tattoo to an NPC that can be abused. Leave it to The Monster to find that stuff eh? Really, anything in this game can be abused some way or another. Its just about if they are able to be found.

Anyway, even if they release The Kraken and all that good stuff, it won't stop people from being.... sick. Lets keep it at that.

I really dont get why the POTCO staff wont just make punishments swifter and harder. like if you see someone being.. sick.. and you report them, the POTCO staff would veiw the avatars point of view who reported that sick guy, and if they see something bad happening they should be banned for some time.

Still no response from Disney yet...

Well, I've heard that this great emote will be leaving when the updates come. To bad those lvl1's on tortuga on abassa got this emote removed

Great. Coin was my favorite emote lol, why'd you have to remove it Disney?

Dumb Abassa...

Seriously, last time I went there it scarred me for life.

The response to my email. Slightly more personalized, but no more helpful.

Ahoy Pirate Guest,

Thank you for contacting Pirates of the Caribbean Online!

The ‘coin flip’ emote has been removed from the Caribbean due to gameplay animation issues. For a list of all our currently active chat emotes, you can pull up the chat window in the lower left-hand corner of the screen in-game and click the ‘face’ icon.

We hope this information has been helpful and, we hope to see you setting sail again soon!

That's odd to me, because it says there are "animation issues" when it is obviously the fact that it is being abused and used in a bad way. Thanks Disney, you ban us, and tell us it's because we were using an animation with bugs. I sent a link to this thread too, but I doubt they read it.

(Not posting name due to what Davy said)
Pirates of the Caribbean Online Member Services

I think they should remove ALL emotes for pete's sake. Yeah they are cool looking but face the facts, this is a PIRATE GAME. How often did pirates just be stanging there moving their hips, laying HALFAa their boady down to "rest"?

NO emotes have ANYTHING to do with pirate's. Remove them disney, I dont care. Remove NPC emotes too! Remove 'em all!!! Even the emote of when you prate is just standing there. How often when you stand around do you grow 3 inches then shrink 3 inches, back & forth???


That's all I have to say.

Emotes are things to do when you're bored or talking. They're used for expressions and also do show a sense of personality to a man. Emotes are especially important in this game, IF everything just stood there, it would look less realistic if they stood there without any action and if you could do nothing. We are using emotes for experssions of mind whether it is sadness or anger or happiness.

Emotes should not be removed. If they removed all the emotes then I would personally phone Disney in anger.

By the way Davy_, that "growing and shrinking" is really just your character breathing.

And Jason, I honestly didn't expect much more of a reply from them. I notice that those emails that we are getting back from them are getting less and less personalized. Technically, the coin flip is having animation issues. That is why people are able to abuse it. It is too "bouncy" so to speak. But instead of taking an hour or less to just fix it, Disney is being lazy and taking it out. Way to go guys, your lazy and now your making us pay for it.

I wasn't really expecting much Davy, and your right, it really wouldn't take that long to change it in sucha way that it can't be messed up.

Aw, so sad to see the coin flip go! I would much rather be able to flip my coin then scratch my bum, but that's another topic. I'll send a message to Disney as well.

Disney basically said it isn't coming back, but we can still hope and try! This is our final stand! Our only hope! The end of the rum supply! The final chapter! The greatest oh all! Might as well go for it!

well I got on today and its gone. No more coin flip. Didnt even get a warning, just knew about from here. Its just a little emote but I dont want to see something go from some stupid reason and stupid kids. we should think of something to do.

I can't believe Disney removed it. It's not even worth emailing them. All they will reply with is "We are sorry that you are upset about the removing of the coin emote, but there were animation problems. Fair winds!"

Disney, I don't need words to express my thoughts about what you did.

Hahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahoheh ehahohe..... Gotta love Disney sometimes! :spam: Is Mad

Those people who where messing up with the coin emote where most likely adults. kids wouldn't know how to mess it up that way.

yeah your right, but the have a very imature mindset.

I am very disappointed in all of this….I have never witnessed any of these sick actions that you all are speaking of…I can only imagine, but then I do not hang out on Abassa. The coin flip was used, not only for show of character, but was used to avoid embarrassment by not slumping over and falling asleep while talking or waiting around for someone. My gosh…they might as well take away using tonic to revive someone to keep them from going to jail, I have seen some weird actions done by using that! Come on Disney…get your thinking cap on….I know you can figure out another way for us to use coin flip, please bring it back….the game will never be the same without it!

They shouldn't be allowed to vote, drive, or drink. they are the type of people who would abuse this.

Let's please leave stuff like that out of the forums. It could be considered controversial to some.

POTCO was just really lazy with this. How long would it take to go into the coding and change it so that the coin flip animation could no longer be abused? I know nothing at all about computer and video game programing, but I will firmly say that I doubt it would take very long. I mean, such little time that one guy could just do it at home one night before he goes to bed. By doing this, POTCO angered many players (If you don't believe me, read through this whole thread -_-). This is a huge mistake that they may regret in the future when they see less money coming their way.