POTBS vs. POTCO
 

Pirates of the Burning Sea has just gone F2P so now let's compare how this game matches up with POTBS.

POTBS:
+100 different ships + user content such as flags and ships
+100 missions
+Many Ports
+Player Controlled Economy
+Port Governors Player Voted
+Massive Player Customization
+Vast Open Sea
+Conquerable Ports
+Big community/loyal fanbase
-Partial lag
-Fewer servers
-Big learning curve

POTCO:
-Unlimited vs Basic
-Must pay to access higher ships and majority of missions
-Repetitive missions
-3 ships types (Sloop, Frigate, and Galleon)
-Some clothing and weapons restricted to Unlimited members
-Unlimited can use 99% of game
-Basic has maybe 1% of basic game access
-Lack of content/expansions
-Smaller community/close fanbase


So, who wins in this battle? The P2P disguised as a F2P or the P2P who went F2P?

Its really all in how your gaming style is. Better is only a point of view. For some, POTBS would be better than POTCO. In other cases, POTCO is better than POTBS. And this:

Is complete exaggeration. Basics can use almost the whole game if they just know how to do it right. ;)

I would take the learning curve over the lack of access.

And how is that so? The more updates the game gets, the more the basic player has to pay to use more stuff.

POTBS wins. we need to be more like them.

POTBS is a true pirate MMO. I've been playing it for a long while now and it's well worth the time and effort.

Oh, and another pro:
In POTBS, you can use a SOTL. In POTCO, it doesn't even exist in the Caribbean except as NPC.

Not at all true. Whenever Disney adds something to the game, they always will add something for basics. When the new clothes come out, there will be a few items that Basics can buy, such as sack shorts. Yes, its not as much as unlimited, but Disney needs to get money or we can't have the game.

Other examples. Basics couldn't always use the voodoo doll, or the light galleon. Those have been unlocked for them. When the Inventory was expanded, basics were able to use sabers and blunderbusses. Whenever Disney updates the game, basics get a little more.

Disney =/= the company who developed the game. At least learn that Disney didn't make the game. Disney just published it.

"Few" as in a select amount of things which say "Hey, i'm a free player! Notice how bad my clothes look!"

The developer needs the money, not Disney. The developer cares more about what's going into its pocket than what's being added to the game.

I can't use my Frigate. And I was Unlimited until I went Basic. I used to be able to use my Frigate as Basic until the system got changed once again to limit my play time.

And many more remain locked with no key able to be seen in sight.

And Unlimited was able to use about everything else that got released. 2% is not 100%.

Whenever the DEVELOPER updates the game, the Basics get less.

One huge flaw with POTBS: No Mac OS X support.

I bet you could easily get the community to see if they can get support for it. I bet they could if alot of the community got support for it.

Rewriting a game to work on another platform ain't an easy task mate.

Guess we'll see in time, but for now, I am sticking with POTCo.

I know it's not going to be easy but the FLS would do it for the community. They after all are a community driven game.

POTBS converted me from POTCO. That's saying something.

is downloading free game right now :P

POTBS? And anyway...i'm Premium on POTBS so I get lots of access due to my past subscription. Free players still can do alot with the limited econ slots, dockyard slots, and stuff but they can get Ship Insurance, Ship Storage, and other things from Treasure Isle once they purchase permanently.

FYI: If you're new to POTBS, join a society!

FYI: i will if it ever finishes downloading :P

I had the retail so I didn't have to deal with the massive download time. I actually had it installed long before F2P happened for the game.

Here's some beginner tips:
Do all starter missions so you can get acquainted with the game mechanics
Join any society so they can help you with questions and get ships for discount prices
Don't enter ports under contention and risk losing your ship
Don't activate PvP flag until you feel you have a good ship that can handle the gunfire

And how big is the download file anyway? I bet it's quite a few gigs.

7.1 but its goin pretty fast since it hit 100.0 MB

First off, we need to consider the fact your post contains a strong bias. Your pirate here on POTCO is level 10, while I assume that you have a pirate on POTBS that is much closer to the max than on here. As such, I don't think you could make a fair judgement, when you've barely experienced this game.

I'd also like to note the fact that the direction of your post is not a question, but an answer to the question. You're like a lawyer that goes "Did you kill him?" and before the witness can say anything, you pretty much said "YES YOU DID!" This by the fact you failed to list any positives of the game, which must link back to your origins from POTBS, and your level 10 standing.

Now, on to the actual subject at hand.

I played POTBS through it's free trial, and I won't deny, it's pretty impressive. It's quests are very diverse, and it's enviroment is very unique. But, I must say:

1. Game play gets very dry, very quickly. As much as I love the realistic combat, I don't like the fact it takes over half an hour to sink three ships, and that's with mindless and nearly unhelpful ally ships. Also, when battling ships on the open sea, I basically had to spend five minutes sailing around, trying to get to it at a safe speed of about 2 miles per hour. By the time I got up to it, I was about ready to shoot my own ship.

2. Very, very complicated. Let's face it, the game is no cake walk. Learning about the market, the economy, the land claims, how to do what, it felt like that if I wanted to play that game, I might as well just go manage my taxes. Honestly, I really like how diverse and different it is, but it took me at least an hour to get a vague idea of the auction house. And by that time, my advil was just starting to kick in for my headache.

3. Not too friendly. I remember the first day I got in that game, the only thing I was in the land AND sea chatboxes was people yelling and screaming at each other. Yeah, ok, that's here too. But at least this game has some pretty nice censors, that keep insults at most laughable. The language I saw there made we want to cringe a bit.

Also, you say that POTBS has a larger community than POTCO. I find that very, very unlikely, on the grounds that POTCO is a self-sufficent game that is still able to make such progress on it's own two feet. Not to mention, in POTCO, as you stated, there are more servers here, which is better at explaining how expansive this game can become. And, of course, POTCO is definately popular on the basis of the POTC movies, Disney being it's parent, and the fact that, overall, it is more child friendly.

Next, in terms of subscription fees, I noticed that POTBS only has monthly fees, which are the same as WoW ($15.) And, in all honestly, if I wanted to pay for something that is worth the price of a usual WoW subscription, I'd play WoW!

If I were to give an unbiased list, I would have to say:

POTBS:
+100 different ships + user content such as flags and ships
+100 missions
+Diverse Ports
+Vast Open Sea
+Conquerable Ports
+Large community/loyal fanbase
-Partial lag
-Fewer servers
-Big learning curve
-Difficult on areas from basic learning to everyday functions.
-Bickering and older community that may result in drama.
-Not child friendly.
-Sea Combat is slow and repetitive.

POTCO:
+Large, friendly community.
+Quick learning curve - very easy to jump right in to the action.
+Smaller subscription fee.
+Interactive both on it's site and in-game with players.
+Hundreds of weapons, clothing pieces, etc.
+Rapidly updated in terms of content.
-Basic access is considerably limited in terms of being able to experience the game fully.
-Majority of quests are old and repetitive.

Oh, and one last thing. My old Guildmaster and her friend (my closest in-game friend) went to POTBS because they felt it had better content... for about three weeks. They then came back, saying "POTBS is fun, but it'll never be Pirates Online."

PirateEmpire. By Disney I mean POTCO/the Developers. I use the terms interchangeably, so please bear with me on that. Basics were never able to use a Frigate, or even Light Frigate before. POTCO needs money, so by having Unlimited have more, people have a motivation to upgrade and give them money so that they can continue to add things FOR BASIC AND UNLIMITED. Every time they update the game, basics will get a little more. Perhaps not as much as unlimited access, I agree with you there. But again, POTCO needs people to upgrade so they get money. Ask around anywhere, and I'm sure that most people will agree that whenever POTCO adds something for unlimited, basics get a little too. And when you talked about how basics got hardly anything from the inventory expansion... well, let me put it this way. They may not be able to have EVERYTHING, but I'm sure that anyone would agree that a little is better than nothing at all. And yes, some things will never be for basics, but that is the way it is. Basics want to get this stuff, they upgrade, POTCO gets money, and they add more stuff for BASIC AND UNLIMITED. There is a reason that basics cannot have everything, which I have already emphasized, but I will emphasize again. POTCO needs the money so that they can continue to keep the game running.

Now, if you really think that you aren't getting enough from the game, then maybe this isn't the right game for you.

And Del, you nailed it in the head. I couldn't disagree with anything you said.

Did I say it wasn't?

Who knew GMs could stoop so low. "LOL, your character is level 10 so you know nothing about the game. I have nothing better to insult than your level." How mature.

I have but the game doesn't give me much to experience. I've had both Basic and Unlimited. I clearly know the difference between the two as i've experienced both.

Where should I put this nonsense in my thread?

Oh, I gave you a big chance to say something and clearly you sure did.

I know I didn't list the positives. I made that obvious from the start.

And here we go again: "I have nothing else to retort with! So let's insult his level!"

Oh? We were never on the subject of this thread? What are you doing posting in here if you're going to do such a thing?

That's sure saying something of how bad this game is made.

I could say the same about POTCO. Oh wait...I did...look at the comparison. That's under the "Repetitive" category.

That's the point of realistic combat: Instead of taking 5 seconds to destroy a ship, it takes a rather long time due to you having to destroy the hull, its crew, and or it's masts.

But come on now, that's not realistic! It's in no way POTCO where you can only see the ship go through a few damage stages! Heck, POTCO is more realistic! /Sarcasm


Where you have no water currents or wind to really determine the speed of the ship in Pirates Online. It's more of a "just for show" sort of thing. Right?

I did face it. I mentioned a big learning curve in my OP. Care to actually read before attacking?

With the economy, you can create your own ship. With your warehouse, you can get resources. I think it's beneficial if you knew what an MMO is and what makes one it.

It took me like 5 minutes to learn the AH. You have a local and regional auctionhouse. Regional auctionhouses give you one free warehouse and warehouses are very helpful for the economy.

Expected of Antigua but Roberts is more mellow.

Yes, the community knows about the censor problem. That's why they're trying to get FLS to fix the censor and add more words.

It sure would but you'd have a moderate game community due to you using the Pirate movie trilogy as a means of advertising for your game. Yet, I fail to see how your game is much of a display of the Caribbean. It's so tiny. It takes 1 minute to go from one area to another.

What progress would that be? *looks for something unique compared to other MMOs* Nope, I can't see anything from my lookout on my ship.

Well, you need full ports on POTBS for it to be very much of a good game. Though, the more servers you have, the more widespread the playerbase is. Sometimes, the lack of servers is good for a game.

And children is a majority of the fanbase which you mindlessly rob money from. I can't wait until they learn what a true MMO is!

They have monthly fees if you want VIP(Captains Club), and they still allow you content after you're done subscribing.

Doesn't POTCO charge the same as well? OOPS!

Do I smell a bias, afoot?

Personal bias. It does nothing to really defeat my arguments.

Is this game very big in size lol cause it takes forever to download lol

I will just say this one thing PirateEmpire. If you don't like POTCO, then why are you here? This is a place for people who like POTCO. Now, seeing as you seem to hate this game, you probably should not be here. This is a FANsite. You don't seem to exactly be a fan. And may I say that you really did not defeat any of Del's arguments there. And that last thing was not bias. He was just stating something that his friend experienced.

Mindlessly robbing money eh? How is it robbing? You contradict yourself. You say that basics have nothing, and upgrading is the only way to get anything. If that is the case, then how is it robbing if you are getting a lot back?

I do believe that it is 6 or 7 dollars a month. Again, considering how you think that unlimited access players get everything, wouldn't you agree thats a pretty good deal?

I could go on and on. Honestly, if you hate POTCO, go play your POTBS if its so much better. And make sure that your posts are clean. I don't like seeing people attack others in this game.

Disney is broad.

Rather not.

The developers believe that we'll be content with limited things and play FOREVER! Dude, this isn't no Battlefield: Heroes. The developers need to stop being cash dependent. It's like they're on welfare.

Translation: Spend all your moneyz or forever have not much to do on the game! MWAHAHAHA!

I wish there was a welfare government for barely surviving video game developers.

They invented micro transactions for a reason. Obviously, the developers never heard of it before.

Where's the Red Cross for POTCO? This game needs their help. BASICS ARE IMPOVERISHED! Call 467-890-2002 to donate money to the barely surviving and neglected audience of POTCO!

Translation: Pay or forever be neglected! *evil maniacal laugh*

Copy, Unlimited gets majority of new stuff while Basics get a cookie crumb. AYE AYE CAPTAIN!

Maybe they should close down a few of the servers? They can save alot of money then instead of charging for about every feature the game has.

Excatly, that's why POTBS makes this game look like it's a piece of junk.

Yep. Ports, ships, missions, character options, and basically the sea has alot of NPCs roaming it due to the advanced NPC system it has.

It's well worth it though. Trust me.

Edit: Oh, and can't forget the unique detail of every port.

I could keep arguing, but I honestly believe my time would be better spent elsewhere. That word I was referring to was filtered. Therefore the site counts it as a swear word, whatever word you said. That graph of yours is just a pie chart with no statistics, therefore it is meaningless and you shouldn't have wasted your time making it. If you think this game is a piece of junk, then I would like to ask you to leave. This is not the place for people who hate the game. If you want to go brag about how wonderful POTBS is, then go do it elsewhere. And perhaps you shouldn't be here anyway, because I am finding your posts extremely rude, and I honestly should report them, but seeing as you probably will be leaving this site in the near future anyway, there is no point.

And I will bring one more thing up.

Having a cookie crumb may not be much, but it is better than starvation.

Oh, awesome. I try to talk from a valid stand point, and I come back to a bunch of personal attacks. I feel awesome.

I'm not going to go that far in depth, but saying anything that I want to say will make me a martyr for both this forum and this game, because posting it would get me banned faster than God knows what. But I'll leave it at this:

Don't attack Davy, I, or anybody else because we're trying to get a point across, about POTCO, on a forum, about POTCO. If you came here to try and recruit us using flashy content wavers and arguements that down POTCO, then just get out. You proved to us today that the POTCO community cares too much about each other to ever abandon our friends, our guilds, and our family.

P.S. Don't be afraid to PM me if you want to keep chatting. I promise I'll take my teeth guards out :)

gonna see how potbs is

It might not be proper for me to go and post on here, but I will anyway.

There is one major difference between this game and other games, and that's the communication.

I've never played Burning Seas. I don't know what it's like. But I DO know what keeps me coming back to POTCO.

Communication.

How many games, either online or not, MMO or not, allow you to simply press enter, type in a sentence, press enter again, and talk to another pirate? Not many. POTCO allows this.

How many games allow you to press on a button easily displayed in chat to talk to certain people? Not many. POTCO allows this.

How many games allow you to join both a crew, guild, SvS battle, and allow you to talk to each and every one seperately whether to put in orders or talk to your crew about that amazing shot? Not many. POTCO allows this.

How many games have their developers and admins create their own avatars, come online and have real Worker-Player interaction so as to keep a storyline moving? Not many. POTCO allows this.

Games are built around their content. Their objectives for the player to complete. The side quests you're allowed to do.

But it's those X-Factors that lure people to play. To me, communication is POTCO X-Factor. The way you're allowed to talk each other. The way you can interact with anybody. ANYBODY.

That's what keeps me coming back. So many guilds to interact with, so many pirate tales to be spun, so many pirate crews to be formed. Each time I come back, another story plays out.

POTCO is a blank canvas with the borders filled in. What goes in the middle, why, that's left up to the player.

taking way too long to load and your right jack for example wizards doesnt let you talk as free as potco theresd no open chat its either there fraces or spelled corectlly or aprroved words for certain players

its redicules not even one gb done out of 7 gosh

EDIT:imagen potco with potbs graphics and more ships and islands that would be sick

EDIT:6 GB to go

I prefer POTCO... I would explain but I'm sure someone would try to dissect it and tell me how they think I'm wrong.

Pirate Empire all you've done in this thread is attack people and try to advertise POTBS. If you love it so much then go play it. And if POTCO is so bad then why are you here? I'm sure there are people who share your opinion on some POTBS forum. Also the reason the Basic access is so limited is because that's what it is BASIC. If we gave Basic access more content then soon they would keep wanting more until there is no point in paying anymore. Also the reason Del brought up your lv 10 was not to attack you, it was to point out that you know very little about this game and haven't played it much. Honestly if I set my mind to it, then I could become a lv 10 in a few hours, and that isn't enough to fully understand the game, the quest, or the community.

Swash is right, the difference between a noob and a pro is not level, nor access, or look, it is Knowledge.

And thats coming from the mentally unstable holder of the B4N L4Z3R.

I used to play POTBS and it was one of my favorites. It still is really, I have no idea why I left, but I am kind of glad of it. A massive PvP battle got annoying after a while. Thinking about taking a short hiatus from POTCO and pick POTBS back up if these new updates aren't amazing. :P

I win :laughks2:

the game is ok potbs graphics ships and actuening and sail design and ship design with potco child friendliness cause i had some trouble figuring stuff and stuff like that with these things together a great game could be made

There is a huge difference between graphics in the two games, but neither are really better differencces. In POTBS the sea seems more realistic, and lighting, too, but in pirates, human detail is much better and scenery is also focused on.

The art in both games are different, and saying one is better than another is a bit unfair. They're just different, although the downgrades in POTCO annoy me, and there should be more plans to upgrade than the other way around.

Gameplay? Eh... POTBS and POTCO seem very similar in ground combat, although POTCO seems to want to focus on cool new gaming elements and weapons now than POTBS. Enemies? Eh, same almost. They both have ghosts.

Ship combat? Huge difference. At first, the combat in POTBS is very complicated, and takes some getting used to. Even once you're used to it, it doesn't seem like an in your face sort of battle. While I think ship combat in POTCO could be better, it's pretty straight forward, easy to understand, and fun.

The games are different. That's about it. Pick the one you prefer and that's it.

^ Touché^ :laughks2:

You basically summed up what I was gonna say. So PirateEmpire, if you wanna go brag about POTBS, go do it on THEIR forums, not ours. No one is going to agree with you very much. And again, your posts seemed very rude and your showing up was very unnecessary if all you planned to do was try and recruit or bag on our game.

I'm basically with everyone on this thread except pirate empire. as you ave seen, people are more friendly to each other in POTCO.

I like the way the game is set up but sea battles and ship boarding battles are way to hard lol

There is NO contest here. POTBS wins easily, under the grounds that it is actually updated.

tayseth, it really depends on your point of view, playing style, etc. Its hard to say if one is actually BETTER than the other, but they could be different. Maybe one is better for a certain playing style, but you can't really just say BETTER. Sorry if that didn't make much sense. In a rush to get going here, so I may edit and add on later....

POTBS could be a better game, but we Mac users will never know, will we? Bah humbug.

i think there could be a great game between this two combined i really like the fun simpleness of potco but i like the graphic in potbs though more weapons in potco more islands in potbs ship customization in potbs easier ship battle in potco they both have great aspects combined it would make a killer game

Awesome.

But yeah... POTBS doesn't really do it for me, personally. The graphics are nice and all but it's too complex. And some of the people are less than friendly. I'm staying with POTCO. :)

4.4 GB of Updates YOU GOTTA be KIDDING ME!!!!!:sadmh9: :sadmh9: :sadmh9:

Well said Captain Del and others.

PirateEmpire - I find it interesting that you are comparing POTCO Basic play to the paid version of POTBS. As has been stated there is really not much that can be done as a "Basic" player on POTBS either and it requires "payment" to get access to more advanced content. You are playing the upgraded version of POTBS and that should be what you are comparing to POTCO's Unlimited access.

Seriously though POTBS is built as are most standard MMO's with community economy, Auction houses, items to be gathered and PVP factions. I have played dozens of MMO's over the years with similar systems. I did some research into POTBS at one point to see if I would like to play it. To be honest there are many aspects of the game that did not appeal to me including how difficult it is for starting players to advance against those who are already high levels.

I play POTCO because I have tired of these things in other MMO's and because as stated before that the community interaction is top notch. Anyone can log onto POTCO and just start playing and having fun with little learning curve. We have Game Master events with the developers actually in the game having fun with us. This is a very family oriented game and it's very easy to build great friendships here. There are many here who have multiple family members playing together.

We play POTCO for the simple fact that it is NOT like other MMOs and we don't want it to be. Every so often we get someone like you from another game trying to "Convince" us that we are playing something we should not be. I wish you the best in POTBS but you won't be seeing Captain Whale there. Enjoy POTBS sir and leave us to our fun if you will.

Cheers - Captain Whale

If it wasn't for the price, potbs would be a descent game.

We do not need to be hostile here to anybody. If anybody is getting upset about this thread then also feel free to not read it or reply. Let's apply our "rules" equally.

That being said, while this is indeed a POTCO board, this is the Other Games subforum. While the OP may have become a bit hostile, the responses in themselves have also been hostile. If we are going to ask people to behave a particular way, then let's live up to that same standard.

As to the OP, the two games are different and address different gameplay styles. POTCO has free play as well as paid subscription, true. However, POTBS has recently moved to free to play and free players are not nearly as limited to lower levels as they are in POTCO.

POTBS is a very in-depth game with a steep learning curve. POTCO is simple to play right out of the box. My favorite thing is that in POTBS, people claim that POTCO is a kids' game, but the people in POTCO act far more maturely than in POTBS. You think you've seen griefing in POTCO? You haven't seen anything.

You see, Disney cares about an enjoyable gaming experience for all, to include the younger players. POTBS is no place for the youngsters. Bad language, racist comments, and general poor sportsmanship abound.

If you want to get some experience in another Pirate MMORPG, try POTBS--it is free and can be entertaining, depending upon what you are looking for. However, don't try to compare the two games--they are completely different experiences. Which one is better depends upon what you enjoy doing.

Well said Bart. Basically comparing POTBS and POTCO is like comparing COD and Halo. Both are shooters, but one is Modern and the other is Futuristic. One addresses one audience and the other addresses another.

Bart. Not much to say to what you said, but you nailed it right there. The two games are directed to different audiences, and really should not be compared down to details like that.

And Swash, I'll say that your COD/Halo analogy was a pretty good analogy for us that haven't played POTBS.

I don't think Halo/COD players are this vicious to each other though LOL. At least not that I've noticed.

Ever brought up COD amongst a bunch of Halo fanboys in a Halo Xbox Live Party? They're even more. :laughks2:


And, yeah, I'm gonna go back to the free thing POTBS set up as a secondary game. I played before this was ever thought of and had no idea it existed. :P

This whole thing is a bit too complicated for me.

Despite the fact that I think PotCo is quite nice and has a generally appealing crowd to me, PotBS has somethings which I'd really like to see in PotCo.

Honestly, if I had to bring it up, it would take us back to the whole E10+ and E13+ debate. If PotCo had that huge complicated economy or long-lasting battles, I'd love it. But then, I doubt the kids who join this game would (due to immense complexities)

But PotCo DOES have to concentrate on its adult audience (I'm somewhere in-between). Of course, the films are directed towards people above the age of 13. So why does PotCo focus on the children playing it? Can't they look at Armada of the Damned? THAT game was from THIS series, and yet it seemed to have things that would appeal the adult audiences.

Coming back to the economy... I feel that if we had something complex... then probably things won't dry up so fast. If the battles were longer and the income attained from them higher, income from land lower and enemies made tougher (not too sure about this), and income from SKILLS (and quests and jobs) made higher, then that would do. I mean, if we id end up having Trading, the monetary transactions would enable us to reach 200,000 in a giffy. So reduce a few things and increase some. Because if we were enabled to build things out of items found and skills available, we can easily just sell them off.

That's what I would like to see of an economic change. But generally speaking, PotCo must have a larger workforce, and more of a drive to be a separate MMO than relying on the fact that it's part of Big D. It should be more competitive to other games in the same streams, like Runescape and PotBS. The updates definitely should be maximized by A LOT. If anything, I hope the release of On Stranger Tides boosts the thought of this game being utilized as an appropriate marketing tool for the series (Look at LotRo and SW:Old Republic!)

Just saying',
Midhav

I tried playing POTBS and got extremely confused. Plus, it was lagging majorly but that was somewhat due to my old computer.
I know POTCO can be confusing to new members, but nothing like POTBS. While POTBS has lots more things to do and customize it seems, I definitely have to go with POTCO!

You Left out so many stuff on POTCO- and i agree that it depends on player and every opinion would be bias.

-Unlimited vs Basic
-Must pay to access higher ships and majority of missions
-Repetitive missions
-3 ships types (Sloop, Frigate, and Galleon)
-Some clothing and weapons restricted to Unlimited members
-Unlimited can use 90% of game
-Basic has maybe 10% of basic game access
-Lack of content/expansions
-Smaller community/close fanbase
+Privateering- Pirate vs pirate ship battles
+PvP - Pirate vs pirate land battles in groups or alone
+300+ different weapons
+many different enemy's on land and sea- Skeletons, Navy, EITC, Ghost, Davy Jones servants (each with more categories under)
+Card games
+Different treasures and loot
+Mini games-cannon defense and repair
+Different islands, caves and jungles
+Less than 1 gb required

I haven't player other game so i'm not gonna say which is better but i have to say that you didnt include a lot on what you said about POTCO

Well put Leo. There are probably more, many more, but I can't name any off the top of my head.

I agree with Midhav that a complex economy would enhance the game.

And it wouldn't have to be complex in a sense that it would be confusing to kids, either. In fact, it could be considered a good learning experience if POTCO set it up the right way.

Here's how I think it could go. It would start off with banks, and pirates can use them to store massive amounts of money. At first only 1,000,000, and then later on you pay the bank 200,000 to upgrade it to 2,000,000. It may not seem realistic, but anyways, 300,000 to store 3,000,000 and so on, until you reach the limit of 500,000,000. Now, yes, I understand that may seem like a lot, but remember, games thrive off of time, and this would be a challenge for the most loot hungry pirates in POTCO.

Besides that, you would have a separate area in the bank where you can store money, and it builds interest. This would be for pirates that want to make some extra money without doing any work.

Then, you can rob banks, and become a wanted pirate, which brings in the 'fun' factor to all of this. You can rob a bank, become a 'bad' pirate, and the bank will put a bounty on your head that other priates can get. Of course, this would introduce a PVP only island.

Then, you can invest in things such as new ships, weapons, clothing, etc... and make money from that. A national timetable in the game would show how much money pirates made or lost in investments in a certain area.

I know, it seems a bit too... downgraded, but that would be enough, really, for an economy in POTCO. It would be time consuming, introduce robbing banks, a PVP island, etc...

I think we REALLY need a black market in POTCO, where you can sell your cargo/loot so other pirates can buy it, but it could be stormed by the navy/eitc.

Oh and the Pirates hunting pirates? horrible idea. that could turn guilds/friends against each other. But i like the idea of navy/eitc on my tail.

I dont think we need that much money. 200,000 is fine with me.

I really thing ammo/tonics should be way more expensive. I have every single skill unlocked, and it costs my 200 gold to restock everything, besides tonics. And i think we should have houses, or we could live live our ships, or rent a room in a tavern for 50 gold a night.

Another thing: If you have a ship, you would have to pay to keep it at the dock on a main island, but if you are on a wild island, it would be free but your ship would take damage over time because it doesn't have shelter.

Something Leo left out... in POTBS the land combat was stale, actually, it sucked. In POTCO it's just as fun as looting the high seas. Other than that, spot on Leo.

Yeah, I'm sure that's why Nations have a town of each template. They aren't unique. Georgetown has an equivalent in France and Spain that look JUST like it.

And for GOSHS sakes, let this thread die everyone. I think the point has been pushed across enough. :P

Wichdoctor, this threads now about why we should need a new economy.

Well, go start a thread about it in the Recommendations forum! :P No need spamming a thread that no longer represents what it is named after.

Lol i couldn't compare or say anything about POTBS because i never played it. Also there is much more that could be added to POTCO, i just wrote what camee first in my mind.

Very Addicting game !!!.... -_-
~ Just saying ~ cause Ive played it for at least 12 hours each day of winter break :P and i almost burnt the video card up in my comp. fromm playing it so much :P

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What I would translate this into is basics can DO almost anything, but bascis can't GAIN anything from it once they have all their weapons at max, and plus you can't even recruit past 91% for the first recruit in the Black Pearl Quest.

Even though my main account is unlimited... And I haven't complained about basic access needs... I now have two basics, and I can see their point. Basics do need to be able to do more.

Also, POTCO is a really fun game, but yes, definitely needs more new, fresh content .

none of them, WoW wins, no contest!

Yes, because we all love killing 100 Warthogs for a meager reward, right! :laughks2: No offense, mate, but I'm not patient enough for WoW. :P

Neither am I, thats why I am taking a break. I am into Akella's pirate games at the moment. I mod them too. I did try POTBS. Its fun, but I have no idea what the heck I am supposed to do next.

POTBS looks very facinating. I love the graphics and it's good to see there's a Pirate MMORPG out there for hardcore gamers but I've never considered myself a "hardcore gamer" and it seems too complicated and not as much fun to me. I'll still with POTCO personally but it's good that there are other options for those who want it

POTBS does not install correctly for me.

I love POTCO, I've tried POTBS, and I do admit, very nicely done. But just the fact that my family and friends are here on POTCO, I don't think I'll ever leave. Though the posts look like most are in favor of POTBS.

Well no, there really isn't much of a contest.

1/ POTCO is p2p. Yes, there is almost 1 percent you can do as a basic, but thats it. POTBS is COMPLETELY free. Yes, there is an option to pay, but that just gives random benefits that you can actually buy with doubloons anyway. Seeing how well built POTBS is, that's extremely generous.

2. POTBS has a huge arsenal of ships, most unique and full of polygons, along with textures that are high quality.

3. I'm able to run POTBS smoothly with no server turbulence at all. The same cannot be said for POTCO, which is rather ironic.

4. POTBS has a challenging PVP system. For SVS, it's not a "See how many shots you can get in with a Light Sloop with 2 fury gunners as you take down ships 9000 times your size" deal. PVP take skill, tactics, and preperation. You need to tactically decide what you're going to do to make life miserable for your oppenent, whether it be taking down their sails to attempt boarding or an easy kill, aiming for crew to create large debuffs, or simply take out their armor.

Swashbuckling is also improved. It's not a "Fidget to the left and right, quick canceling between weapons and bombarding your enemy with exploited glitches and then claim that you're not exploiting because that would put your cool guy persona in peril" deal. POTBS is a different game, and you can't exploit in an RPG. It's all fair.

The only problem with POTBS's pvp is lowbie ganking.

5. Quests are much better. They are not the "Kill 20 *insert ship here*" deal. They all try to do something different, something clever to show the power of their game engine. Disney has tried to do this with the Raven's Cove quests but that was rather short. Almost all the quests in POTBS try someting new, and believe me, there are a lot of quests.

6. You can play as 4 factions, all with unique ships and skills.

7. You can shoot people, you can drink rum, you can ransom people, you can capture and strip down a derelict ship for supplies. POTBS certainly feels more like a pirate game.

8. POTBS has better graphics. And when I mean better, I MEAN EXTREMELY GOOD graphics. Some of the best graphics, if not THE best for a free game.

9. Very few glitches, if not any. The developers who work at FLS would faint if they saw pirates just floating in midair everywhere you go. If there is a glitch, they'll fix it within a day, if not less of a time.

10. You won't get banned for using an emote, nor do you have to worry if using an emote will get it removed.

Number 10: so if you where misusing an emote, no one would care?

Mostly because there isn't any emote that could *almost* be considered vulgar. Also, even if there was, the community is much more mature than POTCO's.

POBTS and POTCO are for two different types of players. POTCo is for pure fun. POBTS is for people who want to play a game as if it were real life. They want it to be as realistic as possible, hence the boring SVS and, from what i've heard PVP. There's such a big learning curve in POBTS it made my head swim.

I've heard that you can swear as much as you want. Someone posted it here on the thread that the game was full of racist comments, Swears, and other nasty things. How can you consider that mature??

If you want an awesome pirate game play Sid Meier's Pirates! Just do it, you can reward with rum afterward! Seriously one of the best games I have ever played.

The only good quote from Super Paper Mario: "I love going onto forums to complain about video games i've never played!"

People in POTBS don't play it for it's realism. Of course, in POTBS, your ship can't back up as if it were a car, nor do they go 9000 miles per hour. That doesn't mean people play POTBS for realism, they play it because it's the most faithful, and most fun pirate game out there.

SVS isn't boring and nor is PVP. It's not even an opinion. Well actually it is, but saying that the SVS in POTBS is boring compared to POTCO's SVS is downright absurd. Theres nothing "fun" about being sunk in your collosal War Frigate by a puny light sloop just because they have fury gunners.

You can swear as much as you want, but it's all censored. You can swear as much as you want in POTCO, but you'll (maybe after a year of doing it) will get banned. The same goes for POTBS. The only racist people are trolls. All of this is standard in ANY online game.

I've heard (but I've never really experienced it) that GMs on POTBS ban racist people/trolls when online. And they're always online. The only "racism" I've ever heard in 2 years of playing is calling the French "frogs", the Spaniards "Dons", the British "Brits", and the Pirates "Rats".

The only "boring" thing about PvP in POTBS is that you can't even hope to do it until you get a Raa or Raa MC or something similar, around level 40(?).

And BTW, you can uncensor curses in POTBS if you wish.

Well, I finally decided to try it out and my thoughts are that it's a good pirate game but definitely for a different audience so comparing the two is kinda unfair. I DO have to say though that while PotBS has better graphics, better customization and more variety in quests, POTCO IMHO is more pick up and play enjoyable. I also like POTCO's sword fighting system better.
I'm also noticing PotBS seems to have sever issues. That said, I find myself enjoying this just as much as POTCO and am now addicted to both of them XD