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sovr cat 08-04-2008 01:57 AM

what is the auto repair glich?
 
ive never seen it? what does it do?

Dr. Zeppers 08-04-2008 02:01 AM

It was posted around here somewhere I believe.
Basically it keeps your ship repaired or at least under repair all the time, making it near, if not impossible to sink you.

So if your in SvS, shooting an enemy, seeing your shots do damage, yet the ship seems to not take any damage, well its probably autorepairing.

Swash 08-04-2008 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sovr cat (Post 59058)
ive never seen it? what does it do?

dont do it its a cheat

sovr cat 08-04-2008 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swashbuckler (Post 59086)
dont do it its a cheat



no.. cheats are when you edit packs. aka hacking :piratear:

captaindruidblade 08-04-2008 08:01 AM

Thanks!
 
someone other than me sees that moding files is the cheat not something that the game naturaly does

SpiritSkull 09-13-2008 12:06 AM

i know the glitch bc of a friend... its a secret in our guild but i dont cheat.. i keep to the rules and not auto repair.. if u badly wanna know glitch then u must wanna rub it in ur friends face sayin hahaha i beat u!! (really cheating)

SangrelX 09-13-2008 02:47 AM

some finer points
 
man oh man

the arguments are old -- its cheating ... its not cheating ... yes it is .. nuh uh its called glitching

ok listen lol

there is a fine line between cheats and glitches

Cheat = Making game do something its not supposed to or meant to do - that gives you an advantage over the other players (by means of file edits or glitch abuse)

Glitches = Making the Game do something its not meant to do or supposed to do that has no effect on others gameplay


so using so called glitches in Ship vs Ship is indeed Cheating!

but walking through a wall to get behind the bar is not cheating it doesnt effect peoples game play or give you some weird game advantage over the rest its just a glitch



---- Now Hacking is a Different Story
Hacking is NOT Packet Editing
Hacking can be done several ways some legal and some illegal it depends on the license of the game, its engine, files, etc..

but packet editing is not illegal by any means -- the law does not control what you allow your computer to send or receive

which means if i dont want my PC to send information from my pc to somewhere else I am well within my rights to edit that info out or block it

Packet editing is a Grey area

Now to be clear on something this game uses the Panda3d Game Engine developed by Disney - However Disney licensed the engine under a Modified BSD License

which also grants users rights to modify files and such to a certain extent - im not explaining it all fully here because its too much to type


Sorry to get off on a tangent but - i just get tired of people saying oh thats a hack or ohh its a glitch -- or ohh its nothing wrong its how the game works etc..

Now I dont Condone using unfair glitches or hacking - Unless ur pitting Glitch/Hack vs Someone else who is Glitching or Hacking (This applies to all games not just disney lol)

but in ship vs ship -- I am soooo sick and tired of seeing people auto-repairing or doing some other weird glitch - and they build a massive bounty up by cheating

well u better believe it - I will glitch and nail em to a wall
but I do have morals - I will make sure they are indeed cheating first before I drill em

u can flame me all u want for using glitches on the glitchers but I have had people actually thank me for helping them kill the one using glitches - then I either a. leave ship vs ship or b. turn the glitch off - get my crew and start winning

depends on if i wanna keep playing after having this cheater sink me tons of times
usually by the time I see they are for sure cheating im soo angry at em ill sink em and leave ship vs ship lol

either way thats my opinion and how I play the game - call me what u want but do onto others as they do onto you


Disney needs to FIX these major bugs once they do that - people will start to enjoy ship vs ship

later
Sangrel

Chris 09-13-2008 02:00 PM

Its a glitch and an unfair one at that.

Edward Edgemenace 09-13-2008 05:33 PM

Disney (the company affected by the cheaters) should consider legal actions against people cheating in SvS. SvS should have been the best part of the game, instead it is an embarrassment.

I know I don't "glitch against the glitchers" anymore. However, what remains of SvS is entirely unplayable. On the rare occasion where one finds a quiet server with a few people willing to play the game without cheating, a cheater will intrude within five minutes.

Seeing people who are able to turn their gun turrets 360 degrees is just pathetic.

Seeing people whose ships take no damage is just pathetic.

Seeing people whose shots sink my boat in ONE SHOT is just pathetic.

Seeing ships with repair-while sailing is pathetic.

Seeing ships with auto-repair is pathetic.

Seeing ships miss with ramming speed by more than ten boat lengths (but score a hit anyway) is just pathetic.

Seeing ships not take any damage at all when hit directly midships with ramming speed is just pathetic.

Not seeing enemy ships, is just pathetic.

Not seeing enemy ships on radar is just pathetic.

Not seeing a damage meter is just pathetic.

Seeing punks with no windcatcher outrun me (checked them on DxD) is just pathetic.

Seeing a war frigate partially glitch into the light sloop repair rock, is um, er, ahhh. Hmmm. Quixotic.

Dr. Zepper's miracle cure is the only thing that's worked for me, so far.

Dr. Zeppers 09-13-2008 06:17 PM

lol Dr. Zeppers almost sounds like a softdrink.

A quick note about a posters reference to packet editing.
This I would consider to fall along the same lines a glitching.
If done to protect the user as in the given example (controlling outbound information), this would be understandable.
If done to give one an unfair advantage over an event, or process they are participating in (ie an online game, auction, etc), I personally consider this cheating.

My general glitch rule: Glitch for fun, not for advantage over others.

SangrelX 09-14-2008 02:11 AM

eh
 
I agree with Edwards post and Zeppers

also to further note on Zeppers Comments about packet editting

I was pointing out packet editing is not an illegal method of hacking - however yes editing packets to give an advantage is hacking (or cheating depending on how u wish to phrase it but both in this instance mean same thing)

But when i see someone with a 4000+ bounty and then I notice weird things happening - I love nothing more then to take that bounty from em LOL

it serves em right

Edward Edgemenace 09-14-2008 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 69174)
lol Dr. Zeppers almost sounds like a softdrink.

If Lucinda sells it, I'll buy it!

mlratto 09-14-2008 06:17 AM

i'm a zepper you're a zepper wouldn't you like to be a zepper too. lol

should consider legal actions against people cheating in SvS

i agree with all your points ed...but legal action? i think sending them to davey jones locker should be satisfaction enough...if ya can...cause they're glitching. lol

even with all the nonsense that goes on in svs i am addicted. what's a level 40 pirate to do.

Chris 09-14-2008 01:12 PM

Legal action?!!? Ok the glitchers are annoying but i dont think we should fine them or send them to REAL jail..... unless you mean sending them to VIRTUAL jail....


Mhmmm Dr.Zeppers

SangrelX 09-14-2008 03:54 PM

I didnt pay attention to the legal action part on his post because that will never happen lol

Disney would never waste the time or money on taking legal action against someone using a glitch - for many many reasons lol

Dr. Zeppers 09-14-2008 05:03 PM

The outcome (a person that no longer having access to thier system), is easier to achieve without any legal actions. Now if it brought down thier network, caused a problem with thier systems, etc.. Thats another story. But its unlikely any ship glitchers are up to that level of nefarious activity.

Dr. Zepper - The diet pirate drink, all the pleasure and taste of rum, but only 1 calorie per bottle/can!!!

SangrelX 09-15-2008 01:50 AM

yea like zepper just said lol

they would just ban people for any actual hacking - they are not gonna waste time and money on legal matters for it

now if you crashed their servers or caused some actual harm somewhere then yea they might nail u to a wall LOL

and like you said zepper - I doubt any player on pirates is going to be that devious

LOL but I know many pirates that could if they wanted to lol

Rackat 09-15-2008 12:39 PM

You know, I've found that two people on a War Sloop can overcome just about any glitch. Mr. Ironrat and myself go out on SvS fairly often, and more often than not we end the game with top score on the side we choose. We don't need to glitch to defeat the other side. And when we sink, we sink, no big deal. We pull up our big boy pants and sail back into the fray. Pretty soon our bounty is back up and we continue to "Rack" up the score.

I understand the frustration, it gets to me as well occasionally. But I enjoy the SvS aspect so much that I do it anyway.

MacIronhawk 09-15-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rackat (Post 69786)
You know, I've found that two people on a War Sloop can overcome just about any glitch. Mr. Ironrat and myself go out on SvS fairly often, and more often than not we end the game with top score on the side we choose. We don't need to glitch to defeat the other side. And when we sink, we sink, no big deal. We pull up our big boy pants and sail back into the fray. Pretty soon our bounty is back up and we continue to "Rack" up the score.

I understand the frustration, it gets to me as well occasionally. But I enjoy the SvS aspect so much that I do it anyway.

That's what I prefer to do but....
I ended up going with someone who told me to take the wheel after we sunk.
I thought it wont work but it did and the next thing I know I can repair while the ship is moving.
Weird.

Andrew 09-15-2008 03:47 PM

tsk tsk tsk, some people just dont know the difference between cheating and glitching, ill make it simple: *clears throat*

Glitching= finding problems in the game
cheatng= things like the svs. The SVS "glitch" Is something I would consider a cheat, not a glitch

Edward Edgemenace 09-15-2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk (Post 69794)
That's what I prefer to do but....
I ended up going with someone who told me to take the wheel after we sunk.
I thought it wont work but it did and the next thing I know I can repair while the ship is moving.
Weird.

Repair-while-sailing glitch is not the same as the auto-repair glitch. Both are bad; even though both were reported, big D only "fixed" the auto-repair glitch once by making it slightly more obtuse (instead of just drawing cutlass while hammering, now you have to do a skill action, before pressing shift.)

Did it do me any good to report it? No, in fact, someone named MacIronhawk recently made freakish bizarre accusations about my motivations, but big D never did fix the reported glitch.

mlratto 09-15-2008 08:03 PM

Mr. Ironrat and myself go out on SvS fairly often, and more often than not we end the game with top score on the side we choose.

really? you guys sound downright dangerous out there! LOL

um...we won...AGAIN!

hey, someone mentioned 360 degree cannon glitch...any truth to that?

Edward Edgemenace 09-15-2008 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlratto (Post 69839)
Mr. Ironrat and myself go out on SvS fairly often, and more often than not we end the game with top score on the side we choose.

really? you guys sound downright dangerous out there! LOL

um...we won...AGAIN!

hey, someone mentioned 360 degree cannon glitch...any truth to that?

I've seen war frigates hit my light sloop when I was parked directly behind it. (And that lone guy on his ship was firing cannon, not turning his boat...not even after I sunk. He was still sitting there in front of Ile d'Etable de Porc...)

Tobias Blastpigge 09-15-2008 09:34 PM

OK - here is one I haven't seen before.

I get on a war frigate, we sink. The captain goes offline so I have the ship. I start sailing, take some damage, park to work the cannons. The ship starts to repair itself. Im the only one on board - I ran the decks to make sure. Before I knew it the ship was to full health again.

Is that a packet hack?

For myself I don't really mind the sailing glitch - you can still sink just not as easy. This one - an auto repair? That seems pretty fishy to me.

BTW - I got off the ship as fast as I could port when i realized exactly what was going on.

Edward Edgemenace 09-15-2008 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias Blastpigge (Post 69863)
OK - here is one I haven't seen before.

I get on a war frigate, we sink. The captain goes offline so I have the ship. I start sailing, take some damage, park to work the cannons. The ship starts to repair itself. Im the only one on board - I ran the decks to make sure. Before I knew it the ship was to full health again.

Are you sure you weren't just getting salvage repairs from sinking enemy ships? Did you ask in privateering chat, if anyone was doing "fleet repairs" (where they repair their own ship beyond 100% - repairing allied ships.)

SangrelX 09-16-2008 01:04 AM

"Are you sure you weren't just getting salvage repairs from sinking enemy ships? Did you ask in privateering chat, if anyone was doing "fleet repairs" (where they repair their own ship beyond 100% - repairing allied ships.)"

he could been getting Salvage repairs

but as to ur fleet repairs - that doesnt exist - you cannot repair ur ship past 100% it forces you to stop repairing

so you cannot repair an allie ship that way

you can however glitch and board an allie ship and start repairing it that way

-----------------------------------------------
Tobias -- no it wasnt a Packet Hack either
someone was probably being nice on ur team and using the same glitch i mentioned above to heal the ship -

they glitch off ship, walk to ur ship, start repairing and it usually repairs really fast

SpiritSkull 09-16-2008 08:51 PM

HERE IS THE PROBLEM! LOL OK....listen we all know that its AWESOME for us to get major things out of glitches...but how do u feel when someone else beats u when they are the ones cheating..u dont feel so happy anymore do you? well bottom line is.....CHEATING/GLITCHING/NO MATTER WHAT U WANNA CALL IT...its simple....BAD BAD BAD....if they dont fix it i wont ever ship pvp again..seriously..or pvp another person no matter what....SERIOUSLY..they go through the walls and i cant get them so i logg off and they dont win and i dont lose...simple!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIMPLE!!!!!!

SERIOUSLY...sheesh.... -_-

dddj 09-16-2008 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 69174)
lol Dr. Zeppers almost sounds like a softdrink

HAHA! That made me laugh.

Edward Edgemenace 09-16-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiritSkull (Post 70123)
HERE IS THE PROBLEM! LOL OK....

Ahoy! Step right up matey! Aye, here at the Faithful Bride, Carver neglects his customers so they hired me to keep the grog-a-flowin. Tell me all your troubles. Aye. Aye? Aye! You don't say! Aye. Look mate - I've got something here for what ails ya...Dr. Zepper's Miracle Cure. It's not rum, it's not grog, it's not ale, but it will clear your problems right up. One sip, and you won't launch from the French OR the Spanish island for a week... :buds:

I may have been in 1st place in the SvS contest, but I feel exactly as you do, matey!

Mr.LoveLocket 09-16-2008 11:14 PM

It's a horrible cheat. I think they fixed it though. Well i'm not much in to SVS so i wouldn't know

SangrelX 09-17-2008 01:05 AM

u cant do the auto-fix/repair on repair spots

but u can still do the repairing ship while its sailing trick ****

Edward Edgemenace 09-17-2008 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SangrelX (Post 70269)
u cant do the auto-fix/repair on repair spots

but u can still do the repairing ship while its sailing trick ****

That simply isn't true. Just because it is more convoluted (requiring additional actions prior to repairing each one) does not mean it doesn't exist. It isn't nearly as easy as it used to be.

SangrelX 09-17-2008 01:30 AM

Edward -- dude your right I just remembered they tried to fix it but didnt totally work

cuz u can still do it by performing a skill instead of just opening a weapon

My bad forgot that one LOL


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