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Andrew 09-29-2008 03:40 PM

more guild options
 
Co-GM privellages for guilds, just like a GM, except you cant eject the GM, lol. Only the GM can make an officer a co-Gm. A Co-GM can demote officers, and eject them too. Officers and Gms (Co-GMs if they do this) should be able to view the levels of other officers and members.

Any other new guild options that should be added?

Reaver 09-29-2008 03:42 PM

in game character rep for each member of the guild kinda like individual ranking inside of a guild, ex: captains, lieutenants, corporals, etc... Rather than just have officers be officers

Captain Grizzly 09-29-2008 04:43 PM

I like the Co-GM idea. If we had that our original guild wouldn't have had to be changed when our GM quit playing. If not Co-GMs then they at least need to add a way to transfer guild ownership.

I've also always thought we need a better system other just Officer and Member. Don't know how well it would work but it would be nice to be able to reward members of a guild with something other then just a 1 rank promotion.

In game guild mail would be something I'd like to see. Not every member is on POF or the guild's website. Some members don't like signing up on sites and some of the younger players have parental restrictions on the type of sites they can visit so a way to leave messages in game would be great. With all the various time zones involved it would be a perfect way to keep members up to date on whats going on in the guild.

Dr. Zeppers 09-29-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Grizzly (Post 75373)
In game guild mail would be something I'd like to see. Not every member is on POF or the guild's website. Some members don't like signing up on sites and some of the younger players have parental restrictions on the type of sites they can visit so a way to leave messages in game would be great. With all the various time zones involved it would be a perfect way to keep members up to date on whats going on in the guild.

Not knocking the idea, but with the way security measures are addressed with Disney, this is highly unlikely. Chat is already very restrictive, imagine the complication of adding private messaging.

Captain Grizzly 09-29-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 75378)
Not knocking the idea, but with the way security measures are addressed with Disney, this is highly unlikely. Chat is already very restrictive, imagine the complication of adding private messaging.

I agree that a full fledged mail/message system would be an issue, my fault for not elaborating. Was thinking more along the lines of a pre-set group of announcements/statements customizable with dates, times, etc. like they already have on the DXD pirates page. Just need some way to let everyone in the guild know what events/meetings are coming up.

Reaver 09-29-2008 06:42 PM

interesting thought before you sounded like you meant mailboxes

Chris 09-29-2008 08:37 PM

I think grizz means like a PM system in game where i can send a message to Grizz even when he is not on and when he does get on he can read it. I dont see a security issue with this seeing as VMK had it and it was a G rated game.

As for more guild options i would like to see that i also want to see maybe more piraty guild names.

Like:
Captain
First-Mate
Swabby
Deckhand
ect.

Swash 09-29-2008 08:51 PM

Guilf Hide Outs, A Guild schedule, Be Able to Rename yer Guild, Guild Announcement Posting, Co-Gms or Head Officers, Guild Wars, and Be able to be Crwative with ye guild Like flags, Colored Guild names, etc., and

Chris 09-29-2008 08:52 PM

Great ideas i really wish they would have put more effort and time into the guild system honestly i think they should have put the time they spent in PvP and even SvS into making better guild options but thats me.

Andrew 09-29-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OFxZeppers (Post 75378)
Not knocking the idea, but with the way security measures are addressed with Disney, this is highly unlikely. Chat is already very restrictive, imagine the complication of adding private messaging.

well, think, theres whispering which is just like private messaging, only restrictive

Stormhawk 09-29-2008 09:09 PM

I wish there were more ranks in guild as well. Just three ranks is not enough. Co-gm sounds like a good idea.

Captain Grizzly 09-29-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurora18 (Post 75398)
interesting thought before you sounded like you meant mailboxes

Yea I realized it came across that way after i read it again. I entered that post from work (Shhhhh, don't tell) and didn't really look it over before I posted. :)

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 75428)
I think grizz means like a PM system in game where i can send a message to Grizz even when he is not on and when he does get on he can read it. I dont see a security issue with this seeing as VMK had it and it was a G rated game.

Not exactly, just some kind of notification system to update members that aren't members here or on our site of upcoming events. Something they would see when they logged on and opened their friends list. That way everyone in the guild would know about it. With private messages you would still be hit and miss with the way people come and go in the game.

Mr.LoveLocket 09-29-2008 09:40 PM

I wouldn't like it because its not fair for officers. Then there is no point in being an officer because you can't even eject.

League 09-29-2008 10:17 PM

I made a thread of stuff like this. There was a lock option, where a member couldn't be ejected, promoted, demoted, et cetera, no matter who tried, and a recruiter option, a stub up from a member who could recruit people as the name implies.

AdmiralSavvy 09-29-2008 10:18 PM

I like the idea of new guild ranks because I've known Officers a long time ago who just went off the handle thinking that they can eject whoever they want even though I forbid Officers ejecting in PIC. With a Co Guildmaster rank, that would separate powers within a guild and also clarify the limits of one's power for the better instead of more less "make believe" guild positions in which people (not anyone in PIC) would take advantage of for not being an offical POTCO guild position.
Plus, I have some people in PIC who deserve more than just an Officer rank. Guildmasters being able to promote above the Officer position would be more than awesome for me. :)

League 09-29-2008 10:22 PM

I dunno: can't shake the good thought that my lock idea was a good thought.

Captain Grizzly 09-29-2008 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.LoveLocket (Post 75466)
I wouldn't like it because its not fair for officers. Then there is no point in being an officer because you can't even eject.

Not really sure I understand how adding new ranks would be unfair to current Officers in a guild. I know adding ranks will bring about its own set of problems, (how come he/she got this rank and I didn't, I out rank you, do what I say, etc.), but I've seen that in the game with just the Officer/Member ranks.

I think the addition of ranks would be a good way show appreciation to loyal members of a guild. Maybe something like:

Swabby: Rank upon entering a guild

Deckhand: Rank given after being active in a guild for a period of one month, does not receive any additional privileges.

Petty Officer: Rank given after being active in a guild for a period of two months and reaching notoriety level 15. Able to recruit new members, not able to eject members, not able to demote members below his/her rank.

Captain: Rank given after being active in a guild for a minimum of two months and reaching notoriety level 20. Able to recruit new members, able to promote members from Swabby to Deckhand, able to demote members below rank of Petty Officer, not able to eject members.

Commodore: Rank given after being active in a guild for a minimum of four months and reaching notoriety level 30. Able to recruit new members, able to promote members up to the rank of Petty Officer, able to demote any rank below Captain, able to eject any member below rank of Captain.

Admiral: Co-GM Rank. Chosen by the founding GM. Must be at least notoriety level 35. Able to perform all duties of the GM.

Those are only suggestions, ranks and their corresponding privileges would be set by Disney, the notoriety levels and time in guild requirements would be set by the individual GMs.

Swash 09-29-2008 10:51 PM

I think they should Change Guild Master To Pirate Lord.

Dr. Zeppers 09-29-2008 10:59 PM

I would prefer they focus on a few useful things.

Ideas are great, but sometimes the ideas get too carried away.

Guild management is where guild functionality needs its most work.

Ability to switch GMs, ability to switch GMs if current GM is inactive/basic for x amount of time.


The internal "whispering" is "private" but not really private and is governed by the same rules and read/reviewed by the same censors as regular chat.

As for any internal messaging? They dont have a decent means of submitting bugs within the game, expecting guild pm'ing is well... id rather have a decent means of submitting bugs within the game.

Maximvs 09-29-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Grizzly
Not really sure I understand how adding new ranks would be unfair to current Officers in a guild. <snip some stuff :) >

Swabby, Deckhand, Petty Officer, Captain, Commodore, Admiral
<snipped the descriptions :) >

Those are only suggestions, ranks and their corresponding privileges would be set by Disney, the notoriety levels and time in guild requirements would be set by the individual GMs.

Guild Ranking is a good idea... I think adding goals for players within a guild would inspaire loyality and group play.

I would change a few things on the list though:

- Instead of running hard Level and Date Targets... set the ranking up by Noriety Points earned within that Guild (for example you start at Swabby, you need 15,000 to become a Deckhand in that Guild). Players on more will be awarded with 'possible promotion' sooner (see next point) and GM's would know who is more dedicated to being on the game.

- Allow Custom Controls to the GM to make the advancements whe the player reaches the goal noriety, not just award the rank (like unlocking a new weapon skill at the weapon shop... the player listed in the guild list would say 'Promote To Deckhand' or 'Promote To Pirate'... as some players shouldnt be promoted too far even if they obtain higher levels :)

- By using Noriety Points instead - if a pirate discovers the guild they are in is 'not good' and wants to change - then they can leave to another guild and earn the rankings again - that way new high members dont get rewarded right away

- When the player becomes Mastered, all the options open to the GM to do promotion to that player (solving the issue of 'what happens if the player moves to a guild late in the game and cant earn all the points to gett all the rankings before maxing their pirate')

- Change Petty Officer to Pirate! Too many Navy Terms LOL :D

Captain Grizzly 09-29-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximvs (Post 75523)
- Change Petty Officer to Pirate! Too many Navy Terms LOL :D
<snipped pretty much everything :)>

All joking aside, really good ideas, point system would probably be a better way to go. Too bad many of us will never see it happen. Like Xep pointed out, too many other issues that need to be addressed first. But it is fun to dream :)

So how about:

Swabby
Deckhand
Pirate
Pirate Captain
Pirate Master
Priate Lord

League 09-30-2008 01:55 AM

I don't like, in the game called Pirates Online, to have to work to be called a pirate. Ultimately, the guild is supposed to work how the guildmaster wants it to work: I don't see why you're talking about earned ranks within the guild, as they could already be earned or a given with the guildmaster.

Andrew 09-30-2008 01:56 AM

Well technically, I got the idea from you Savvy :D

Red Nations 10-28-2008 09:14 AM

I posted suggestions relating to this in the Grog Blog:
First there are two badly needed options for guildmasters, the first option being the ability to appoint a second in command giving the second full powers as acting GM. My level 40 pirate is second in command of a guild with an absent GM. I'm lucky to have contact with the GM once a month and only able to suggest officer promotions at that time. Secondly I'd like to see GM's given the option of stepping down and leaving the guild if they wish, with command of the guild being passed on to a second in command. I've seen several guilds destroyed when the GM decided to leave the game and the guild was deleted casting all the members adrift and guildless.

I'm also in favor of having a rank system within the guilds along with some sort of awards and medals for rewarding outstanding members and players.

League 10-28-2008 11:17 PM

Stepping down is a good idea, and 2nd in command is as well. I also like my lock option, to create members that can't be removed by officers.

MacIronhawk 10-29-2008 01:35 AM

By a Co-Gm if you mean a co-guild master then I like the idea. I think you meant that.
I would like that. A right hand man for a guild master would be nice.
Of course handing down a guild to another member would be nice too.

Here are some options I think would be nice.
I would like to be able to give officers different powers.
Ex. I give one officer the power to recruit members while another officer can only eject members.

I would like to be able to put a limit on how many people an officer can eject.
Two, three, etc...
This would be to make sure if an officer got out of line he/she wouldn't be able to take all the members out. Of course once they used up the ejects I can decide weather or not they can eject anymore members.

I would like to see alerts given to guild masters.
An example of an alert would be if an officer ejects a member I get an alert that said who the officer ejected and a report of why they did so. If it's not a good reason I will be able to teleport to that member to bring them back because they were ejected for an unfair reason.

To League: I would like to see that lock on members.

Rackat 10-29-2008 12:11 PM

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I would like to see alerts given to guild masters.
An example of an alert would be if an officer ejects a member I get an alert that said who the officer ejected and a report of why they did so. If it's not a good reason I will be able to teleport to that member to bring them back because they were ejected for an unfair reason.
Though I have never had a problem in Parrotheads, I really like this idea!


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