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Andrew 11-26-2008 10:34 PM

Getting booted alot?
 
If you are getting booted almost non stop, or your cp is acting like it wants to close the game, you might wanna try installing this, it supports the game launcher, without it, pirates wont run very long without it.
The most recent framework file can be downloaded by goingHere
Also make sure you keep framework and all of your other drives by checking windows update to stay updated do the following steps
>Start menu
>Windows update
Let it check to see if your cp has what it needs to see all of the information to view the site. If not, then install ActiveX, and everything else Windows tells you to install/run, and remember, its not gonna harm your computer, everything there is from windows/microsoft.
How to do the vista update? I have no idea

This is one of the basic needs needed for the game to run clean, hope it was helpful!

Chris 11-26-2008 10:45 PM

Literally 2 mintues before you posted this i got a Windows notice saying there are new updates ready to be installed on my computer :D

Dr. Zeppers 11-26-2008 11:01 PM

I think it would be safer to just recommend people use Windows update to make sure they have all the latest. Simply downloading a single file and installing it may cause more problems by leaving out some other updated component that works with it, but is not part of it.

Cannonfury 11-26-2008 11:33 PM

I get booted everytime lately when someone needs the plus sign to chat(i press the button) then it freezes and crashes.

Dr. Zeppers 11-26-2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria Cannonfury (Post 96620)
I get booted everytime lately when someone needs the plus sign to chat(i press the button) then it freezes and crashes.

I would report that to them, that sounds like a bug of sorts.

Andrew 11-26-2008 11:55 PM

For some reason, windows doesnt find framework "important." So only the newer computers come with it. So you have to put it on yourself

Dr. Zeppers 11-26-2008 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CadetAndrew (Post 96629)
For some reason, windows doesnt find framework "important." So only the newer computers come with it. So you have to put it on yourself

That is because its not really required except by some applications.

And dont think its required for Pirates.

I do not install it on my PC ever, matter of fact, the only pc I have it on, is the only PC I have that pirates crashs on.

I do not recommend installing .net framework, unless you have applications that require it.
(although I think it comes in Vista already, which is one of my 3 computers I play pirates on)

Andrew 11-27-2008 12:04 AM

Most computers that can play the game already have it anyway. Leaving it simple, and in mine words:The launhcer cant run on its own, and it needs something to back it up, and framework is a support/backup file. To leave it simple, it might help you stay a little longer :)

Dr. Zeppers 11-27-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CadetAndrew (Post 96632)
Most computers that can play the game already have it anyway. Leaving it simple, and in mine words:The launhcer cant run on its own, and it needs something to back it up, and framework is a support/backup file. To leave it simple, it might help you stay a little longer :)

Not true, its not on my XP machines at home on purpose unless POTCO installed it without telling me or listing it in the installed program/update area of Windows.

Andrew, if I may ask, what is your source of information?

I have found from my occupation (computer support specialist) that, most applications requiring .net framework have it listed as a system requirement, and POTCO does not.

IE7 I do believe requires it, and that may be where many systems get it these days. (I do not use IE7)

Andrew 11-27-2008 12:13 AM

My sister -_-

Dr. Zeppers 11-27-2008 12:16 AM

Ok! Well I think I expected something a bit more informative and official.

I stick to my answer.

Ghostcannon 12-01-2008 09:13 AM

A workaround of this problem of getting booted, which usually comes from a recent Update from POTCO, because I assume it used to work before and now it doesn't, you can try the "workaround" fix by changing the OS compatibility on the Launcher and it worked fine, until a new update comes up. It has worked for me previously.

Arioch 12-03-2008 06:38 PM

Getting booted often is more of a recent problem in the last 2 or so updates and is because Disney has installed a lot of spyware type software in the launcher.exe application to start POTC.

The easiest way around this is very very simple and it also speeds up and protects against lag issues in privateering.

Once you log in follow these instructions to the letter. pick your pirate and actually get into the game do not do this from the log screen.

Once in the game and on land press Control/Alt/Delete this brings up windows task manager (XP) click tab titled processes then click user name tab so that all the user processes are at the top find the process (Launcher.exe) right click select the top one END process and it will shut down the launcher.exe from Disney this will have zero impact in the game as it is only needed to start the game.

Disney uses the launcher program which runs in the background to root through your logs and files and it slows your PC to a crawl causing boot and lag issues.

there are literally dozens of ways to correct lag problems but those are TRADE secrets but this recent booting issue by Disney is down right malicious in nature. It may also be the way Disney employees can use admin codes and boot or freeze players during privateering for personal gain.

Once you are in the game the launcher program is no longer needed and it's continual use taking up processing power and RAM can only mean problems in instances like privateering when lots of players in one spot and you need every ounce of speed and advantage.

when you stop the launcher.exe process do not click the end process tree as you will also shut down the POTC program as well.

if you try this and find it useful respond to the thread to let others know it works and simply to not take MY WORD on the issue.

Bess Blademenace 01-09-2009 06:41 PM

How would you achieve closing the launcher using a mac / Apple computer?
:piratewheelgo2:

thefadedrose 01-09-2009 07:05 PM

Thank you Arioch for that piece of info on the lag problem. I will try that and see if that helps when I privateer. I always blamed it on Disney or peeps glitching while svsing. I or we do fine while svsing until we are just a few feet from the opposing ship and then things like lag, screen freezes up, or I get booted. So I will give this idea a whirl and see if it helps. Thanks a bunch!! Kani of Spartan Ellite

xyzzy 01-18-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Arioch (Post 101335)
Getting booted often is more of a recent problem in the last 2 or so updates and is because Disney has installed a lot of spyware type software in the launcher.exe application to start POTC.

This is a ridiculous idea.

The launcher application uses a standard decompression algorithm often used by malware because it's extremely efficient. This is the reason it's often flagged as a false positive by less-than-careful software (eg. AVG).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arioch (Post 101335)
Disney uses the launcher program which runs in the background to root through your logs and files and it slows your PC to a crawl causing boot and lag issues.

Pirates.exe handles its own log files when it's running. At this point Launcher1.exe is essentially doing nothing but waiting to get the "all clear" signal from Pirates.exe so it can note the game made a normal exit in the launcher log.

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Originally Posted by Arioch (Post 101335)
there are literally dozens of ways to correct lag problems but those are TRADE secrets

This is even more ridiculous. There a few simple ways to reduce lag in regards to anything:
  • Get a better (eg. lower latency) connection
  • Remove other network traffic
  • Get a better network card
  • Get a better network stack (networking in Windows has always tended to be weird and inefficient)
  • Get a better CPU (if the lag is coming from high CPU usage)
  • Get a better video card (this will help in 90% of cases)
  • Get more RAM (this will also help in 90% of cases)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arioch (Post 101335)
It may also be the way Disney employees can use admin codes and boot or freeze players during privateering for personal gain.

Do you really think they'd need a background process running on your computer to affect things in a game operating on their servers?

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Originally Posted by Arioch (Post 101335)
Once you are in the game the launcher program is no longer needed and it's continual use taking up processing power and RAM

This one is, actually, true. It's a low enough amount that it shouldn't be worth worrying about unless you're running on a bargain-basement computer from Wal-Mart or something, though.

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Originally Posted by CadetAndrew (Post 96632)
Most computers that can play the game already have it anyway. Leaving it simple, and in mine words:The launhcer cant run on its own, and it needs something to back it up, and framework is a support/backup file. To leave it simple, it might help you stay a little longer :)

This isn't how it works.

Ghostcannon 01-20-2009 07:39 AM

Arioch's idea works fine for me.
I used to get booted alot before and killing the launcher.exe process once the game is started, I can leave my pirates loged in for hours. Yesterday, I was loged in with the launcher.exe killed and went to the Mall and everything... 6 hours later, my pirates was sleeping lol.

Arioch you deserve credit for your workaround Matey!.

Poison elf 01-20-2009 09:19 AM

I have stated this before, and yes this does help with lag. When you go to the task manager/ processes, you can see what is using a lot of memory. Pirates launcher is a good one to shut down, but most will find how much their explorer uses and probably find a bigger increase by closing that down while playing.

thefadedrose 01-20-2009 06:32 PM

Last nite while svsing I had this problem come up. Now it is nothing unusual to get a lag when getting too close to the other ships nor unusual to get a lag around what I call the "glitch rocks" and those things will produce a delay for me. But last nite I did not experience any lag. It was like one second the ship I was taking down was right beside me then the next second it was 10 to 20 ft. in front of my ship. At first I thot he or she logged or was booted off until I looked up and there it was in front of me. I can usually tell when someone is glitching so I am not sure in this case. This happened several times last nite and it was very annoying especially when I am on cannon. I asked my GM who was at the wheel if he saw what just happened and he said he did experience the same thing. So it wasn't just me. So can anyone tell me was the ship glitching or do we both have computer problems? We were on Andosa Ocean at the time. Thank you to anyone that can help me figure this out.
Kani of Spartan Ellite

Edward Edgemenace 01-20-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefadedrose (Post 111088)
Last nite while svsing I had this problem come up. Now it is nothing unusual to get a lag when getting too close to the other ships nor unusual to get a lag around what I call the "glitch rocks" and those things will produce a delay for me. But last nite I did not experience any lag. It was like one second the ship I was taking down was right beside me then the next second it was 10 to 20 ft. in front of my ship. At first I thot he or she logged or was booted off until I looked up and there it was in front of me. I can usually tell when someone is glitching so I am not sure in this case. This happened several times last nite and it was very annoying especially when I am on cannon. I asked my GM who was at the wheel if he saw what just happened and he said he did experience the same thing. So it wasn't just me. So can anyone tell me was the ship glitching or do we both have computer problems? We were on Andosa Ocean at the time. Thank you to anyone that can help me figure this out.
Kani of Spartan Ellite

As I and many others discovered during my "Glitch-Free Tournament," many of the blinking/jumping motions of ships are unintentional. I usually see COME ABOUT do what you described above. Since 100% of that lag is server-side lag, there isn't much you can do about it.

That said, on the "crazy-A servers" there is an enormously higher frequency of that class of glitch. When I see it happen 5 times in a row with only a single ship (and never with any others) its a pretty good indication that they've figured out a way to trigger that server-side lag.

In my book, that isn't a glitch, that's an exploit. I wish Big-D shared my opinion; but they obviously don't, on that one.

Ghostcannon 01-21-2009 10:06 AM

Thefadedrose,
It is not a glitch what you just described...it happens alot in Abassa-Andoso servers because of the amount of users logged in which causes massive lag and you will be experiencing this more if you are in a crew with more then 5 pirates on it, and! the total number of PvP ships (French + Spanish) causes lag as well.
Sometimes you will also see that you shoot and shoot and see No Damage to the enemy-ship because it is all based on the same thing mentioned above.

Edward Edgemenace 01-21-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostcannon (Post 111220)
...it happens alot in Abassa-Andoso servers because of the amount of users logged in

I'm sorry, that's not true. The same exact thing happens on quiet servers (e.g. my "glitch-free" tournament.)

Quote:

...and the total number of PvP ships (French + Spanish) causes lag as well.
That is not the situation she is describing at all.

Quote:

Sometimes you will also see that you shoot and shoot and see No Damage to the enemy-ship because it is all based on the same thing mentioned above.
Again, not at all the situation described (and experienced by many, many others.) The numerous glitches with TAKE COVER cause the "no damage," not any network latency, nor server-saturation issues.

thefadedrose 01-21-2009 06:35 PM

Thanks Edward for the input. I will see if the "Take Cover" is on when it happens. It happened to me again last night but only did it with this one ship which caused a huge lag when we got close to it so I figured they were glitching plus I had a hard time producing damage but finally I figured out the combination to use to take it down. And this time we weren't on an "A" server. And Ghostcannon? I am the only crew and it was like 8 ships total (5 vs. 3) and I don't call that a massive amount of ships like you find on Abassa Ocean. Last nite there was a ship that was glitched in the port area that kept coming back up when you took it down (someone was AFK onboard and you were unable to tp to him). But anyways thanks again for the info. Kani of Spartan Ellite


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