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Originally Posted by Dan_OB
In ship design there are trade offs. If you want a ship that hauls a lot of cargo you are going to sacrifice speed, like the gallon. If you want speed you are going to sacrifice cargo capacity like the sloops. If you want a fighting ship you are going to want armor and cannons, which will slow the ship down and limit cargo space. So while a frigate maybe fast for a war ship and faster then most cargo ships it is not going to be as fast as a sloop or schooner.
Yes, many ship types served multi-purposes but what I was going for was to have 3 different ship designs in each class that best fit into these catagories:
Fast ships: Ships designed for speed and manuverability. less armor and cargo space like the sloops in the game. Frigates maybe fast for warships but not in the same league as sloops, schooners and such
War ships: Ships designed to fight. lots of armor, lots of guns, like the frigate in the game. Some clarification here; A ship of the line is not a ship design but rather describes the biggest most powerful ships available. The real life man o' war was a ship of the line. Frigates where smaller. Vasa is the name of a particular ship, not a class of ships.
Cargo ships: Like the galleon in the game able to carry large amounts of cargo but slow, less maneuverable and limited in fire power. The East Indiaman was primarily used by The East India Trading company to haul cargo. It's use as a warship was limited and there is no way it would be ranked above a MOW as a warship, so it fits here. And it maybe fast compared to other cargo ships and many war ships but not compared to sloops, schooners, cutters and the like. The Flute or Fluyt, on average was smaller then the galleon. The Indiaman was larger then both.
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ok i read up and mostly i was right however in my last post
i thought by fast ships you meant ships the were considered fast for their size
so in a re order of my last post
War Ships;
Ship Of The Line/Man-o-War
Vasa ( i check online and found it was a galleon of the line )
Frigate
Cargo Ships;
Galleon
Flute ( i also checked on this ship , even though it is smaller than a galleon ,
it could hold more cargo and sail quicker than a galleon
East Indiaman ( checking online as well for this and found that
yes East Indiamen did hold very much cargo they were not at all slow when considering cargo ships and had a speed that of only a few knots slower than a Frigate while some East Indiamen actuall held more cannons than Friagtes
Fast Ships
Sloop
Brig
Xebec ( the common Barbary Korsair ship these were incredibly fast ,maneuverable and held a good amount of cargo, however when the British navy tried a experiment with a Xebec in the Atlantic the results were very surprising,
so the British navy built about 16 Xebecs and put them into service )
and in my last post i, i revised the ending of it
Mostly the idea back in the 17s-18s was to get cargo were it needed to go as fast as it could and as inexpensively as possible , in scene war ships ( Such as a Man-o-War ) were much slower than a East Indiaman or flute, though there were some war ships like the Frigate that were faster but only by a few knots when compared with a East Indiaman.