I have had so many new players and "new 30" plyrs doing the quest ask me to show them , some couldn't find the way there and some just want to sight see and some had heard it was impossible without a huge group.....there were, originally on old beach ,In front of Darkheart, i guess, grenadiers....but they haven't been any on any of my trips just raiders, etc....but only a few, not a mob...Anyways, I seem to have become a tour guide for back beach on padres...Dis, if you see this....please put in a souvenier shop with neat stuff back there....lol