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Old 09-17-2008, 07:07 AM
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Dont basics get enough:
All Island access
3 weapons
2 ships
Access to every shop
Able to join guilds
Able to make and join crews
Able to fight all kinds of enemies
Lv notoriety up to 14
All weapons up to lv 7
Able to get Max gold
Able to do All side quests SAY WHAT?
Able to do Entire Carver quest
Able to make 2 pirates
Able to Befriend other pirates

Thats alot of features compared to ToonTown
Having spent quite a bit of time both as unlimited and basic, I do think I should point out a few things from a better perspective.

Some of the elements of the game that should be really good, are not. Specifically, PvP and SvS. As an unlimited access level 40 player, I found PvP to be a bit disgusting - more about glitching than about just playing.

The single worst aspect of PvP, is that (except for glitching) the outcome is predetermined. The higher level player ALWAYS has such an enormous advantage, it is usually silly to even play PvP at all. (Which, I might add, is why I very rarely did. The few times I did click 'Yes' I usually won, even if levels were one or two higher than me.) PvP mismatches are the rule, not the exception. How often did you get "matched" to someone more then ten levels lower or higher than you? 50%? 70%? 90%?

But that disparity is nothing at all, compared to unlimited vs. basic.

If you have a level ~20 unlimited player, I'll go ahead and try to combat you with my level 40 basic. Guess who will win? We can do any combo you like - no tonics, no glitching, whatever. But as hard as I could try, I wouldn't stand a chance.

As a better test, you could try to match up a level 12 unlimited against a level 12 basic. There wouldn't be much point. I hope it is obvious, which one would win without hardly even trying. Yes, even if their basic opponent was glitching. Yes, even if they were sucking down tonics faster than Gunner drinks barrels of rum.

The original poster suggested separate servers for basic vs. unlimited. For PvP and SvS that would alleviate some problems. For questing, that would be counter-productive. One of the selling points currently, is envy. Seeing unlimited players doing a wither in Fort Charles is a rather special moment, for a basic member who had difficulty making it up the hill, just to get into the fort.


Now, for SvS, the problems are a bit more extreme.

The ship classes themselves are astonishing. A baby pirate I created can do "-6" points of damage to a typical war frigate in SvS. Three round shots in 15 seconds - a total of 18 points of hull damage. (Broadsides are about 1/3 the speed, therefore deliver 1/3 the damage, therefore aren't worth considering.) It would take several basic members continuously firing, several MINUTES to breach the outer hull. If at any time, the boat owner noticed them, he could repair 10-20 times faster (just on one spot, no glitching) than they could damage him.

That same basic member can stand on a repair spot and do +30 hull points of repairs per second. In SvS, that is the best utility a normal basic can hope for.

Now my basic, since it formerly was unlimited and FULLY mastered, can do quite a bit more. For a round shot, "-288" is a typical inner hull hit. But "-17" is also common, particularly against glitched war sloops.

For me, SvS is especially frustrating, when I usually (always?) see my round shots hitting more accurately than people's thunderbolt. HOW? Good Lord! thunderbolt auto-targets and auto-corrects for you, people! It goes TWICE as far! How can you be missing targets that are close! Every time I see people with such bad aim, it makes me want to scream!

After I've hit them 20-50 times, but they haven't yet sunk, then they hit me ONCE after missing me 5-20 times and I do sink, I do scream.

That's where Dr. Zepper's miracle cure comes in handy, lemme tell ya!


Now, is that the three-thunder-in-one-shot glitch? Possibly. More likely, it is normal rank 5 thunderbolt combined with open fire.


Now, am I inept? Gosh, when I won the "open" round of the Ironrat Cup, people didn't think so. When I placed first in the glitch-fest privateering contest, I don't recall too many people saying that I don't know how to sail or cannon.

If I am so completely shut down, right out of the gate, by SvS, what do you think people who create a pirate for one day think? What do you think people on their 5th or 6th day of the preview think?


They try PvP once. They get vaporized. Not fun.

Masochists try it a second time. Their vapors are scorched into the earth by flaming skull. Not fun. (Well, ok, maybe fun for true masochists.)

OK, moving right along, they try SvS, now that they have a "big" level 12 pirate.

Moving forward out of their protective bubble, they sink. Not fun.


If there were "basic only" servers, "mixed" servers and "unlimited only" servers, some of the problems would be mitigated.


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Have you ever wondered why it is so rare to see a basic member level 40? There ARE lots. About 30 pirates per day hit level 40, right? Where do they all go? What is it about an expired subscription, that (for most people) makes it so unthinkable, to load the game back up?