OPEN release notes 2/25/09

[Edward Edgemenace]

Originally Posted by Luvbug

...Being a tester is sometimes a thankless job, but I would like to thank all the new testers who tried to make the game better before it went to open. The ones who tried to play the game, not exploit the glitches...

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your perspective at all. I go to very great lengths to exploit (and report) as many glitches on test as time allows. I have helped other exploit glitches on test, to speed-level, so that they can test things like instant desolation. I have helped others exploit glitches on test to speed-quest-level, so that they can test things like the boss battle.

TEST is the place for pure chaos, NOT OPEN. Anyone that thinks restraint is appropriate on TEST, does not belong on TEST at all. Politeness and courtesy are the rule of the day...that needs to remain the single most important factor there.

[Sven Niscadae]

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace

TEST is the place for pure chaos, NOT OPEN. Anyone that thinks restraint is appropriate on TEST, does not belong on TEST at all.

I would beg to differ a bit. As well as testing for bugs and exploits, testing of ordinary gameplay has to be done as well which requires going through the game as a reasonable/normal person would on Open. Sometimes you do have that wacky and obscure bug that someone who is looking for bugs may overlook.

[Edward Edgemenace]

Originally Posted by Sven Niscadae

I would beg to differ a bit. As well as testing for bugs and exploits, testing of ordinary gameplay has to be done as well which requires going through the game as a reasonable/normal person would on Open. Sometimes you do have that wacky and obscure bug that someone who is looking for bugs may overlook.

Well, that's the point, isn't it? You never know what someone else is testing, so politeness is the rule. Are they speed-levelling? Are they straight-gaming? Since you don't know, the best one can do is ASK. But either way, that sort of chaos belongs on TEST not on OPEN. Certainly, no one ever should be taken to task, for exploiting a glitch. Taken to task for being rude or impolite, yes. But not ever for doing glitches...neither reproducing nor exploiting to level. That's exactly what test is for.

[Sven Niscadae]

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace

Well, that's the point, isn't it? You never know what someone else is testing, so politeness is the rule. Are they speed-levelling? Are they straight-gaming? Since you don't know, the best one can do is ASK. But either way, that sort of chaos belongs on TEST not on OPEN. Certainly, no one ever should be taken to task, for exploiting a glitch. Taken to task for being rude or impolite, yes. But not ever for doing glitches...neither reproducing nor exploiting to level. That's exactly what test is for.

Well, yes, I would have to agree there. I must have misunderstood the context of what you were disagreeing with Luvbug about. No worries then. People will test the game in different ways. Glitch your heart out. Testing the higher end game needs done too and if one needs a way to level up to get there faster to test it, so be it. That is, until Disney fixes those bugs. Don't keel over laughing at that statement though. Oy...

[Luvbug]

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace

I'm sorry, but I don't understand your perspective at all. I go to very great lengths to exploit (and report) as many glitches on test as time allows. I have helped other exploit glitches on test, to speed-level, so that they can test things like instant desolation. I have helped others exploit glitches on test to speed-quest-level, so that they can test things like the boss battle.

TEST is the place for pure chaos, NOT OPEN. Anyone that thinks restraint is appropriate on TEST, does not belong on TEST at all. Politeness and courtesy are the rule of the day...that needs to remain the single most important factor there.

Hmm, don’t get your sails in a bind. I never said you don’t have a right to test as you see fit. (Not sure why you couldn’t offer the same common courtesy) What I did say is thank you to the testers who chose to play thru the game as I would on live… not exploiting glitches and bugs. Finding a glitch and reporting it… good. Reproducing the glitch AND reporting it… Better. Exploiting a glitch just for leveling or gold in my opinion is NOT what test is about. If I need my pirate to be bigger, then I work on it. There are lots of 40s on test, and I would venture to guess that the majority of them did NOT glitch their way there. I have pirates at many levels on test, and with each release I go thru and check as much as I possibly can. This is how I choose to test, and since Disney chose to give me two test accounts way back in beta one, I guess they liked the way I have been testing for them for years.

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