A word about "rep-stealing"...

[Dan_OB]

The argument that the enemy doesn’t belong to anyone and that they are there for everyone to fight has come up a number of times. The problem is that this doesn’t hold water. True enough, none are the personal property of anyone and they are there for everyone to use.The enemies can be considered public facilities, they are there for everyone to use but not necessarily at the same time,

For example,in a public park a family is having a picnic at a picnic table.Another family comes along and wants to use a picnic table, is it okay for the 2nd family to just set themselves down at the first familie’s table? Or would you expect them to find an open table or if there is no other table, wait their turn?

Or say there is a public basketball court and a group of people are playing a game. If a 2nd group comes along is it okay for them to just jump in and start shooting baskets? Or would it be better for the 2nd group to go to another court, wait their turn or talk to the 1st group and find away to play together on the court? It is a public facility there for everyone to use. But if everyone uses it at the same time its of no use to anyone. So it is understood that these things are available on a first come first serve basis. Otherwise your just asking for friction and ill will.

As in these cases, just because they are there for everyone to use does not make it alright to just jump in and use them when someone else is already using them.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Dan_OB

The argument that the enemy doesn’t belong to anyone and that they are there for everyone to fight has come up a number of times. The problem is that this doesn’t hold water. True enough, none are the personal property of anyone and they are there for everyone to use.The enemies can be considered public facilities, they are there for everyone to use but not necessarily at the same time,

For example,in a public park a family is having a picnic at a picnic table.Another family comes along and wants to use a picnic table, is it okay for the 2nd family to just set themselves down at the first familie’s table? Or would you expect them to find an open table or if there is no other table, wait their turn?

Or say there is a public basketball court and a group of people are playing a game. If a 2nd group comes along is it okay for them to just jump in and start shooting baskets? Or would it be better for the 2nd group to go to another court, wait their turn or talk to the 1st group and find away to play together on the court? It is a public facility there for everyone to use. But if everyone uses it at the same time its of no use to anyone. So it is understood that these things are available on a first come first serve basis. Otherwise your just asking for friction and ill will.

As in these cases, just because they are there for everyone to use does not make it alright to just jump in and use them when someone else is already using them.

I see your point, but I think your example is weak, in my opinion....
You see a picnic table and families exist in real life, POTC is a game!
Having rep 'stolen' as some put it, can be annoying, but would you not, just find another enemy? It could be that Pirate that stole your rep has been going through servers searching for that particular enemy as a quest? Or follow the pirate that 'stole' your rep and do the same thing back? We are meant to be Pirates in this game, so let us act like Pirates, or ask for a PVP and kick their backsides!!!

[Dan_OB]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

I see your point, but I think your example is weak, in my opinion....
You see a picnic table and families exist in real life, POTC is a game!!

How does that make a difference? It maybe a game but the people playing the game are real life people just as deserving of courtesy and respect as people in "real life". The only difference I see is that people see the anonymity of the internet as an excuse to behave in ways they wouldn't dare when dealing with people face to face.

Having rep 'stolen' as some put it, can be annoying, but would you not, just find another enemy?

I have two problems with that. One is that I have tried to do that and more often then not they will follow me to the new enemy. The 2nd reason is why is it up to me to find another enemy when the intruder should have gone to another enemy in the first place.

It could be that Pirate that stole your rep has been going through servers searching for that particular enemy as a quest?

A very unlikely scenario. When do you see this as a possibility and how does it justify rep stealing?

If for some reason this is the case you can take one low power hit on the enemy thus getting credit for the quest but not taking away much rep from the other player. Better yet, attune and heal the other pirate and get credit for the quest that way. Another option is to explain your situation to the other player and odds are a solution can be worked out that is agreeable to both.

Or follow the pirate that 'stole' your rep and do the same thing back?

A bad idea in so many ways. Lets just say I don't want to use other peoples bad behavior to justify my own bad behavior.

We are meant to be Pirates in this game, so let us act like Pirates, or ask for a PVP and kick their backsides!!

Sorry, but I am so sick of this lame excuse.. Just because we are pretending to be pirates is not a license to be rude and obnoxious. And if I play PvP its for fun not for payback.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Dan_OB

How does that make a difference? It maybe a game but the people playing the game are real life people just as deserving of courtesy and respect as people in "real life". The only difference I see is that people see the anonymity of the internet as an excuse to behave in ways they wouldn't dare when dealing with people face to face.


I have two problems with that. One is that I have tried to do that and more often then not they will follow me to the new enemy. The 2nd reason is why is it up to me to find another enemy when the intruder should have gone to another enemy in the first place.



A very unlikely scenario. When do you see this as a possibility and how does it justify rep stealing?

If for some reason this is the case you can take one low power hit on the enemy thus getting credit for the quest but not taking away much rep from the other player. Better yet, attune and heal the other pirate and get credit for the quest that way. Another option is to explain your situation to the other player and odds are a solution can be worked out that is agreeable to both.



A bad idea in so many ways. Lets just say I don't want to use other peoples bad behavior to justify my own bad behavior.




Sorry, but I am so sick of this lame excuse.. Just because we are pretending to be pirates is not a license to be rude and obnoxious. And if I play PvP its for fun not for payback.

Matey, if your not willing to take another man's opinion and be childish about it, on you go. Your reply is in fact no better than the "Rep stealers" you refer to!
The fact is there is all sorts of people on this online game and many age groups too! Its available to everyone all over the world, maybe you should chill out a bit.

[Dan_OB]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Matey, if your not willing to take another man's opinion and be childish about it, on you go. Your reply is in fact no better than the "Rep stealers" you refer to!

WOW! Didn't expect all that hostility! What exactly did I say that strikes you as childish? Perhaps something I said came across more harshly then intended, happens to all of us in written communication, but your lack of specifics leads me to believe that thats not the problem. If you actually do have a grievance I'd like to hear what it is.

maybe you should chill out a bit.

A suggestion, while living in that glass house, put the stones down!

[Nick The Titan]

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