everyone should be able to shoot everything.

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Originally Posted by Countainer7b

its pretty simple
1 a sword who has one of those laying around in reach of children
2 dagger dangerous everyone has knives in the kitchen but looks to difficult to do so not replicated as often for that reason
3 voodoo doll you can get one but it doesn't do anything
4 grenade very hard to get
5 same as voodoo doll
6 gun found in many houses seams easy to replicate easy to get very easy for it to get out of hand in reach of small children or (in the case of handguns) it would have no purpose
so u can see shooting the undead thats nothing they aren't alive not something someone would replicate also the trailer lied many times ignore it.

To answer this:
1. I actually do own a sword and it is in reach of children although you're right it is fairly uncommon.

2. You're right kitchen knives are the closest you're getting to the real thing.

3. Correct.

4. If your in the military, then you have used these.

5. Ditto.

6. I don't know a single person who doesn't own a gun.

[ex8404]

Juvenile violence is at a 30 year low. Maybe violence takes too much energy? Either way, we can't shoot everything because POTCO is rated E-10. To keep that rating, gun violence is out.

E-10 allows a certain amount of mild or fantasy violence. So voodoo violence is fine. Swinging what amounts to a magic sword is OK. Same with knives. No one has been killed by lighting cannonballs lately. Grenades? I don't know how they fit in except that you can't get them at Wal-Mart. Guns are just too real.

Oddly enough, according to the ESRB, simulated gambling should earn a "T" rating.

[SEAKING23]

What about daggers? people are stabbed in the back if they cant afford a gun.

I don't know about you guys but i haven't seen someone get shot with a magic 1700's gun.

[ex8404]

Originally Posted by SEAKING23

What about daggers? people are stabbed in the back if they cant afford a gun.

No. They aren't. But I am really not arguing. Just analyzing.

I know people use knives to commit crimes as well but the numbers are very, very low in America. The truth is that shooting someone is very real and very ugly. Disney has chosen to keep the game at E-10 and to keep the "gun violence" confined to the Undead and the monsters. I have no problem with that because I know that if I want to play a shooting game, there are plenty out there.

By asking the POTCO developers to include living-on-living gun play, we are really asking them to raise the ESRB rating to "T" and that is simply not in Disney's best interest because, face it, it's a kid's game.

[Jello743]

Originally Posted by ex8404

I know people use knives to commit crimes as well but the numbers are very, very low in America.

There not that low my friend, approximately 2.5 million according to the US Census Bureau. Thats just in the U.S.A too...

[SEAKING23]

I think we should ban guns here in america, if they did, people wouldn't need to worry about protecting them selves. And the murder rate would drop!

[Jello743]

Originally Posted by SEAKING23

ban guns here in america, people wouldn't need to worry about protecting them selves.

That wont fix any problem we have in America. There will still be terrorism, killings, stabbings, ect. If someone came up to you with a knife, you have to protect yourself thats why we have guns.

[SEAKING23]

Good point, but if someone came up to you with a knife, just get a kitchen kinfe. what i'm saying is if we ban guns, we wont have to worry about murder as much.

[Crestshot]

Originally Posted by SEAKING23

I think we should ban guns here in america, if they did, people wouldn't need to worry about protecting them selves. And the murder rate would drop!

I'm gonna point you to a little thing called The Constitution, more specifically, the Second Amendment.

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

And Jello is right as well. It won't fix problems.

But back on to the original topic, it's all about what Disney wants the rating to be. Yes, kids will play games far above their rating. However, if Disney wants to draw more in, they can't have it too high, and therefore cannot let in shooting of real people.

[Tiberius Fireskull]

This may be a wee bit off topic, but I just want to take a moment to analyze what I think gets games there ratings.

First, we have EC, which stands for early childhood. I'm guessing this is stuff like Dora the Explorer and baby puzzley games and stuff.

Then we have E, for everyone! This is pretty simple. Maybe a little bit of action, but it is usually pretty animated. Overall, it is pretty clean.

E10. Everyone 10 and up. This is pretty much like E, just a little more action packed, with maybe more fighting and violence. However, it is still not too much.

T for teen. Most of the games I play are this rating. These are usually very action packet, with perhaps some blood, mild language, and realism.

M for Mature. This is extremely action packed, likely with blood and/or gore, mild/very foul language, realism, and other items that may not be appropriate to post here.

There is also Adult Only, but I won't go into that.

Right now, our game falls right on the border between E10 and T. Personally, I think it is ok at E10, because the alcohol reference is just rum, which is something that could be worse. The simulated gambling isn't too bad because we are gambling gold rather than real money. That is probably what keeps us from going up to the T rating. Now, if we added guns in, that would add to realism and violence, which would for sure kick it up to a T rating. If we were to add blood to that, it would become M, but that will never happen.

Please forgive me if I strayed from the topic a little. Also, what I define as those ratings may not be the same as what you do.

[SEAKING23]

Would it be raised to teen if you shot at someone and it looked the same as if you attack them with a sword? i mean that flash of light would be the same.

[7seconds]

I like to think of it this way, Pirates didnt have a lot of guns back then. It was a little rare to see one and the guns back then were very inacurate. There are kids on this game and kids are easly manipulated. Go watch T.V. and look how many shows have guns and people shooting each other, they are not stabbing each other with knives, so in this day and age guns are little more popular and cooler thats why they have to be "monitored". I think, even though im one for guns, Disney is doing the right thing and trying to avoid lawsuits and stuff.

Plus even in the movies you dont see blood and guts even when people get killed by the sword you dont ever see it. I dont think its a very "family fun" movie when Disney would show all those little details.

[Tiberius Fireskull]

Yes, it would. Because it adds realism. Again, shooting is a reality. A kid can actually take Papa's huntin' gun and go around shooting things, but its unlikely that the family keeps a sword or voodoo staff.

[Eliza Creststeel]

This is the same logic of why hand-to-hand combat won't be added. I do fully agree with no including direct gunplay.

[leo]

Many of you that are not kids are viewing this from a child point of view which i like but this game has enough safety and uninfluenced reasons of crimes which it cant be the reason why pirates cant shoot at everything. you guys are taking the shooting thing to literal. I don't expect children to go kill someone with a gun as many of you mentioned because we are allowed to use blades in this game to kill any enemy and a blade is a very common household item(knife) therefore blades should have a greated effect than guns in influencing kids but it doesnt.

The real reason why pirates cant shoot at everything is because thats how the game started and it was added as part of the pirate code. It would be nonsense to change that because its something that will change many parts of the game so in my opinion its useless to argue on whether guns should be able to human beings in pirates online because i dont think it will ever be changed.