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Old 02-12-2011, 09:05 PM
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Mates before you say its able to be avoided and to be difficult. Please send me a link to your mmo and if it has as many players as this then go right ahead and say that it could be avoided. I'm sure its very hard to keep a successful mmo running and takes alot of time and effort you should be supportive rather than bash them down...
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:15 PM
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Mates before you say its able to be avoided and to be difficult. Please send me a link to your mmo and if it has as many players as this then go right ahead and say that it could be avoided. I'm sure its very hard to keep a successful mmo running and takes alot of time and effort you should be supportive rather than bash them down...
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I played WoW from the time it was released until a few months after Wrath, and in all of those years of playing it, I have never seen any problems such as the ones we are seeing here on POTCO.. Which leads me to believe that Disney is seriously under staffing its development and programming team.
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:38 PM
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There's hundreds of lines of program just for Blackjack tables. Now think of all the rest of the stuff they have to do: keep track of loot drops, chat, clothing, potions, notoriety, quests, weapons, fishing, treasure... all of this and more for each and every pirate. And I'm guessing there's at least 200,000 pirates. It's the equivalent of probably 2 million lines of coding, because you have to keep track of a certain thing at the exact same time as 20 other things. Disney works hard, and if a line or 2 of bad coding slips in somewhere, they have to go through most of that coding until they find it, fix the error, see if the game is working properly, if it messed something else up, they have to take it back down, find that error, and make sure the game is running then.

I know most of you play games with less bugs than this, but Disney is doing their best to make this a fun game for us all.
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Old 02-12-2011, 09:49 PM
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There's hundreds of lines of program just for Blackjack tables. Now think of all the rest of the stuff they have to do: keep track of loot drops, chat, clothing, potions, notoriety, quests, weapons, fishing, treasure... all of this and more for each and every pirate. And I'm guessing there's at least 200,000 pirates. It's the equivalent of probably 2 million lines of coding, because you have to keep track of a certain thing at the exact same time as 20 other things. Disney works hard, and if a line or 2 of bad coding slips in somewhere, they have to go through most of that coding until they find it, fix the error, see if the game is working properly, if it messed something else up, they have to take it back down, find that error, and make sure the game is running then.

I know most of you play games with less bugs than this, but Disney is doing their best to make this a fun game for us all.
Your right actually. Are you a programmer?? You understand this rather well!!
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:38 PM
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Are you a programmer?? You understand this rather well!!
No, I'm not a programmer. But I am learning. And trust me, there's a lot of work involved in programming a game this size. A LOT of work. I can only program tiny things, such as text popping up on-screen, but even that has at least 5 lines of coding.
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:40 PM
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Thanks for the post,
and I've gotta agree with the post above me also, programing is beyond hard. I, once again am learning bits and pieces as well (see guild thread :P)
Anyway, this is for the better, so lets all just chill and go find other things to do...
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:20 AM
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There's hundreds of lines of program just for Blackjack tables. Now think of all the rest of the stuff they have to do: keep track of loot drops, chat, clothing, potions, notoriety, quests, weapons, fishing, treasure... all of this and more for each and every pirate. And I'm guessing there's at least 200,000 pirates. It's the equivalent of probably 2 million lines of coding, because you have to keep track of a certain thing at the exact same time as 20 other things. Disney works hard, and if a line or 2 of bad coding slips in somewhere, they have to go through most of that coding until they find it, fix the error, see if the game is working properly, if it messed something else up, they have to take it back down, find that error, and make sure the game is running then.

I know most of you play games with less bugs than this, but Disney is doing their best to make this a fun game for us all.

Yea i know from experience in school, it takes forever to get a code to do what you want and then if it is huge like one of these it will take longer to fix, unless they have something like what we used to tell them where they messed up and even with that it still doesnt all ways help, the code where it is messed up can be anywhere... But by the looks of it they are determined to fix it!
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:44 AM
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I played WoW from the time it was released until a few months after Wrath, and in all of those years of playing it, I have never seen any problems such as the ones we are seeing here on POTCO.. Which leads me to believe that Disney is seriously under staffing its development and programming team.
no i meant if you owned one that you created. If you don't then you shouldn't have any reason to be bashing them.
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Old 02-13-2011, 01:00 AM
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no i meant if you owned one that you created. If you don't then you shouldn't have any reason to be bashing them.
Aye, but we are the people paying hard earned money for a product they have offered. We the consumers, reserve the right to critique. And we also have the right to be upset if what we are paying for is not functional. And my point was to the fact that the reason Blizzard is so successful is that they allocate a proper portion of the game players investments to make sure that they do not have problems such as this.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:35 PM
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no i meant if you owned one that you created. If you don't then you shouldn't have any reason to be bashing them.
So by your logic we shouldn't bash presidents or politicians if we have never been one ourselves. That is faulty at best. Paying customers have every right to bash or criticize.

FWIW, I've defended the programmers at Disney quite a bit. I understand how frustrating it is to work with code. In fact I am a few weeks away from taking my certification test in C++.

I hope they can put the kybosh on the nasty bug pretty soon. Nobody wants to see a full-scale mutiny.
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:19 AM
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I played WoW from the time it was released until a few months after Wrath, and in all of those years of playing it, I have never seen any problems such as the ones we are seeing here on POTCO.. Which leads me to believe that Disney is seriously under staffing its development and programming team.
Blizzard is a Game company ONLY where Disney is a multi billion dollar company having games, TV channel, shows, Walt Disney picture, etc. Out of all of these, pirates online with any other game are the least profitable for them so they do not "care" as much. Blizzard is 24/7 on game editing and production. This gives wow the advantage over pirates but its not smart to compare Disney with Blizzard as Disney could buy blizzard if they wanted
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:27 AM
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Well, Leo you are agreeing with me then, that was pretty much my point. But, hopefully Disney decides that its game revenue from pirates could become even greater if they put more of the resources forth to ensure better experiences for its customers.
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:35 AM
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Blizzard is a Game company ONLY where Disney is a multi billion dollar company having games, TV channel, shows, Walt Disney picture, etc. Out of all of these, pirates online with any other game are the least profitable for them so they do not "care" as much. Blizzard is 24/7 on game editing and production. This gives wow the advantage over pirates but its not smart to compare Disney with Blizzard as Disney could buy blizzard if they wanted
Blizzard also manages several different games, not just WoW. Disney has billions, so they have the money to hire thousands of Game developers and not even put a dent in that amount. And Disney has the money to buy Blizzard but it will never happen. If anyone's going to buy Blizzard it's going to be Microsoft or Activision.
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Disney could buy blizzard if they wanted
They should..... From the WOW vids, many POTCO things are based on WOW stuff (since wow was released first), but jsut not as epic. I really want WOW designers to give POTCO a hand to make it better.
You guys are lucky.. I want to play wow too... But it's so expensive...
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Old 02-13-2011, 07:17 PM
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They should..... From the WOW vids, many POTCO things are based on WOW stuff (since wow was released first), but jsut not as epic. I really want WOW designers to give POTCO a hand to make it better.
You guys are lucky.. I want to play wow too... But it's so expensive...
If Disney bought WoW then, WoW would be destroyed.
 

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