Suggestion for Adult Servers- LISTEN UP DISNEY GUYS!!! (lol)

[Jack Garrett]

Originally Posted by Jade Macmorrigan

i really hope this gets the attention of the admins of the game..i've seen other suggestions made that are now part of the game..so here goes...

ok so i've tried to search thru the threads here and i've seen this mentioned on other unrelated threads but not seen anything that deals with this directly. so i figured i'd give it it's own thread (if that's ok...lol.)

I've noticed there seems to be quite a few people besides myself who all feel the same way. that it'd be nice if they made 18+ ONLY servers with a few less restrictions. like a little less prone to ban someone for giving their age, state they live in, an email address, that sort of thing. someplace we can actually play with people and KNOW for certain they're OUR age and have a conversation like adults without fear of being banned. we have to give our ages when we set up our accounts anyway. if people didn't want to be exposed to what was said on the adults only servers they could go to the regular "Pirates-Lite" and play the "G-rated" version. i mean we need a "PG" kind of thing...well you know what i'm getting at! hee hee hee...

like i said on another thread..i'll sign a waiver if i have to stating i'm playing at my own risk on a more open game.

i just think it's pretty crappy that they snoop through a private conversation between two people (i mean HELLOOOO what is the "whisper" feature for anyway???) doesn't whispering imply confidentiality? there's only supposed to be 2 people reading it! ...uh, the only people who are gonna be offended in a private convo are the people involved...right? (and i know i definately would not hesitate to report someone after asking them nicely to stop being a virtual jack-*****...) if it's "privately" said why do they flip out and say that something's "too personal"? then leave it to the people involved to take it upon themselves to report it!!

so i say make some adult servers then. problem solved.

i've said it before..the game already promotes gambling, drinking, killing/torture of lliving...and NOT so living (lol), talking to prostitutes, voodoo magic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...lol. i think it's being a bit hypocritical that we can't give out a yahoo id without being chastized and made to feel like a naughty 3rd grader being sent to time-out. my best friend of 17 years and i like to strategize but have to do it in yahoo half the time so we don't get banned.

that's another thing. what if it was someone you knew PERSONALLY -like as in the flesh so to speak. you're gonna get banned for telling your relative or best friend something they deem inappropriate???? that's just DUMB. There should be an "appeal" process to allow you the opportunity to plead or explain your actions or words. like letting them follow up and ask the other person involved what's going on maybe before they just ban you. can't they write and tell you that you're in risk of suspension because you said this or that and they're investigating it before final judgement is handed out. lol. i know it sounds a little dramatic, but it seems to be a bit more of a fair way to deal with it.

that's why i'm suggesting this here on it's own thread. anyone who feels the same way? i say let's all write to the Pirate People and see if we can maybe persuade them! heeheehee... "VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!" <-hahahahaha....

Thanks for having a look guys!

Jade.

AMEN! I've thought of this too and agree fully! So i guess Bush's Patriot Act works for Disney too? they can monitor our whispers or conversations whenever they want? i want adult servers too. not cuz i wanna curse like a sailor, but i'm an adult and i want to be among other adults, and i dont want my chat to be censored.

[Poairy SilverMoon]

I agree to a point, if i want to swear or give someone I think is cool my e-mail I shouldn't be kicked off. I mean we pay for the game. But on the other hand it's a pretty cool environment to have to play with my little sibblings. I think it might be ok to have a sperate server for adults but who's going to want to monitor what goes on in those rooms??? I just think that if you verify that you're an adult you should be able to say certain things without getting kicked off and you shouldn't be able to say certain things to people that aren't of age.

[Capt. Widowmaker]

Well some have asked for reasons why we want an adult server:

And just be on the safe side, i don't argue here wether it can be done or
if disney will involve themselves.

1. I am responsible in my friendship making with players: I have refused to be
a bf to an obvious girl that wanted me as one. But i want to friend people on
an adult server who i know are of right age, and who i know are adults.

2. I am playing another online game where it is completely allowed to share
e-mails. I have had friends in there also. If so - naturally only on an adult server.

3. I am from Denmark and find it interesting to have cyberfriends from other
countries ... experience, thoughts and perceptions can be shared.

4. As a mastered sailer and cannoneer i find it highly annoying (especially now
after new updates) that some level 2 to 7 kiddo joins because i forget to
deactivate public boarding.
Why ? Because ... while doing ship pvp or normal sailing they shoot at anything
that moves.

Yesterday i had two bad experiences:

A. I did some ship pvp and got meself a nice revenge sinking a bathtub that
gave me score of 5799 and a bounty of 5120. I normally prefer to sail alone
without crew since it gives minimal trouble.
I had a close to sink - hull damage - and have i had public access i would without
any doubt have had low level kids aboard that fired on computer ships which
CAN sink you before you have a chance to repair and even during a repair.

I have had situations where i had a high score and bounty, have been close to
sinking AND have had low level players aboard that simply found my instructions
or information indifferent.

B. In a situation before that i had my prime character sailing around solo and
sinking 50 ships in a row. There was mostly only one other ally (french side)
that had his ship LOADED with uncontrollable players that fire on the enemy,
ME and computer ships.
I read several times that he (first) asked nicely if they could stop shooting at me.
After several times his words became a bit sharp - still no positive response.
After 10 minutes i wrote him that i ignored his crew fire since they obviously
didn't care about him and what he was doing. And that i didn't blame him.
Normally it would make me turn side, launch as enemy and sink that player.

After one hour he was completely frustrated and it went actually on for two hours
where his crew showered me with cannonballs every time i came within range.

Is this so disturbing ? After all they can't damage me ? Yes it is - since when i hear
cannons being fired i am alert. It distracts many times since i have to turn view
and look at my six if an enemy is following.
Meanwhile enemies have several times engaged me from my 12 and damaged
me badly since i didn't have a clear view of how they closed in.

Ps to the above ... i have two times now written disney and requested an
implement where we either can plank unwanted players off the ship or in a
nicer and more polite way click a button that auto teleports unwanted and
uncontrollable players off ship and to their port of call.
As it is now my only chance is to sail to the most remote island (perdida), land
(lose score and bounty - and okay so what), maroon them and know that they
have to sail all the way back thru waters pestered with computer ships and
hope they learned a lesson.

5. AND it will be TOTALLY nice to get rid of ANY answering questions and helping
with plus mode set.

6. A little more adult verbalization of writings, could also be nice so you know you
don't risk offending players or Company D.

7. Yes it is a family game - but even in families - kids need to be without parent
supervison and parents need time without kids.
Kids need time with their own kind - as do we (well i do at least).
This way it could also give more enhanced game play - since you can chose to
play with own kind or more direct family related.

>

What is so terrible that we (adults) like to play family / kid games but also want
some things to work for our adult behaviour ?

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by Capt. Widowmaker

Well some have asked for reasons why we want an adult server:

And just be on the safe side, i don't argue here wether it can be done or
if disney will involve themselves.

2. I am playing another online game where it is completely allowed to share
e-mails. I have had friends in there also. If so - naturally only on an adult server.

I agree with almost everything you posted except this one.
Why would a family based game(thanks Zep) make an adult server?
Why would they let them do that? How do they know adults wont let their kids go on the adult server and people give them out email addresses?

Profanity is one thing I bet you'd hear on the adult server. Why would anyone in their right mind want to hear that horrible grammer? It's not cool, in fact it makes you sound very dumb and ignorant.

Giving out email and other information is more dangerous than you think. Spam mail, etc...
It's dangerous giving out that information.

[Capt. Widowmaker]

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

I agree with almost everything you posted except this one.
Why would a family based game(thanks Zep) make an adult server?
Why would they let them do that? how do they know adults wont let their kids go on the adult server and people give them out email addresses?

Profanity is one thing I bet you'd hear on the adult server. Why would anyone in their right mind want to hear that horrible grammer? It's not cool, in fact it makes you sound very dumb and ignorant.

Giving out email and other information is more dangerous than you think. Spam mail, etc...
It's dangerous giving out that information.

Well i replied to this and used some sharp words, but no swearing or mocking.
Still ... it hasn't been approved so despite the words you use, maybe this will slip
through ... i will try to behave with some degree of patience.

*****

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

in fact it makes you sound very dumb and ignorant.

First i find it funny that words like this can slip through while my reply (still not
approved and less sharp than yours) hasn't ... ?

Strange ... but an open question to moderators.

*****

Second ... i also find it funny the way you behave and ... that you use words like this:

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

in fact it makes you sound very dumb and ignorant.

when you at the same time state the fact that you prefer to be without this kind of words or behaviour - smiles :

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

Profanity is one thing I bet you'd hear on the adult
server. Why would anyone in their right mind want to hear that horrible grammer?

... so may i interprete your reply this way: That you wasn't really yourself or in right mind, when you replied ?

Originally Posted by MacIronhawk

Why would anyone in their right mind want to hear that horrible grammer?

*****

Let's stick to the topic - shall we ? Instead of insulting each other !

[Capt. Widowmaker]

In my eyes / world we all have the same rights and are equally valuable in our
own way - what makes the difference is the conditions offered to us.

No individual has any right to take away rights from any other individual
if we look at it in an ultimate way.

Society do - (if we commit criminal actas or if we violate i.e. rules in online
games) - but that's another story.

So no i am not such a valuable person / vip or a person with such great ego that
i have any rights to violate rights to have an opinion - on the contrary ...

disagreements / reforms and changes mostly make the world and i.e. the
mechanisms of online games change. That's why any opinion is valuable.

Back to the "between us" topic. I don't necessarily find people behind profanities
dumb or ignorant - for them the reason is legal. I have the right to decide
wether i find it worth listening to - and if not, well the option is ignore.

I guess if an adult server could be implemented and function (in theory) i surely
hope that an ignore function will be optional. And if so - i won't have any problems
with profanities - i can simply press the switch button and place them and their
writings on ignore. To me it's actually really simple.

>>> P.S. By horrible grammer I mean profanity. I wasn't talking about your post so
sorry if you misunderstood. <<<

Yes i actually did. I wasn't hurt or hit, but your words was to me a bit out of line
even considering the people i now understand you were talking about.
I don't have any proof, but it is possible that even Albert Einstein has used rare
profanities when some mathematics didn't showed the wanted result.

Shakes hand ...

>>> I think if disney wanted to put in an adult server it would have been made already.
Like Zep told me, it's a family based game. I don't think disney would make something
ONLY for adults. <<<

THIS is the first argument that points in the right anti direction of having an adult
server.
If so ... yes - then we have a reason already served on a silver platter. Could very
well be true.

To me it has become less desirable since i found (thanks Sarah) a work-around
the info and sharing e-mails. I simply write:

Seek and u shall find: I am me pirates online forums

Profanities ... even on family server - ignore

I only now need one game option (then i have no desire for an adult server):
That i can boot / plank / auto teleport an unwanted and uncontrollable player
aboard and off my ship.

>>> I don't think disney would make something ONLY for adults. <<<

Well they make games and stuff solely for kids so as long as it is in a disney spirit
why not for adults.

The movie Fantasia was later considered only for adults - it scared kids.

But i guess we are all age 13 to them LOL.

Hmm i guess i have stated my opinion and probably don't have more to this.

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by Capt. Widowmaker

Profanities ... even on family server - ignore

Just going to point out(because I didn't fully understand what you ment. Sorry.) that yes people use profanity on POTCO.
Weather POTCO knows about it or not it has bee used.
I have seen people using the short forms of bad words and getting away with it if we aren't close enough to click on their pirate and report it.

The ignore button was put in the game for a good reason and I rarely have to use it but when there is a good reason I'll use it.

I don't like to here profanity in any sort of way(my opinion) and I do report people for using profanity in the game.
Adults should know better not to use it on an online game. Teenagers will either learn or they'll suffer the punishment once they get reported.

I WOULD agree to an adult server IF it was impossible to use bad language and give out personal information but....that wont happen soon.

I have reported the use of short form profanity and have gotten no reply and I don't think pirates will fix this soon or at any time. If they do then yes I think an adult server would be ok. I did say OK, meaning I would not like to see inappropriate things or see inappropriate things.
So, an adult server could be arranged but remember this is a family based game. I'm not saying I want an adult server but if we were going to get one I wouldn't go against it.

[Sarah]

Yes, please let's stick to topic. This thread was created in hopes that the big D may come by and have a look, perhaps take some of our thoughts into consideration. I'm all for an open discussion of opinions, but keep it civil folks.

[League]

A thread wanting Adult servers with an un-adultlike title. I dunno: the things that only adults with childlike urges are supposed to look at are often looked at most by kids.

Of all the things to add, this ranks behind all of them.

[Red Nations]

I for one would be in favor of adult accounts and adult servers and removal of some of the restrictions for adult players such as the exchange of contact information.

I've been on the internet a long time and yes I am aware of the dangers presented anytime someone logs onto the internet. I've administered several websites and have always protected my members without having to treat them like children. Shortly after registering here I got an IM friend request from someone here who it turns out was an African scammer trying to get my POTC account login info probably for the purpose of ID theft. Yep I did report him and he got banned. Just using this as an example of the dangers inherent in being on line.

Adults should be able to discern these risks when it comes to exchanging contact info with friends in the game.
I'm not in favor of profanity on adult servers but I believe that they should loosen up the rules for adult players. The only practical way I see of doing this is through the use of separate servers.

[Captain Jessie Hawk]

I agree, I've also seen a great point that the adults are the ones who are paying for the game. If the adult is the one paying for it then you know what they must even trust their children on the internet. Adults aren't going to pay for it if they think their kids are going to go on there and start cyber dating with someone who plays the game. Taking away the freedom of the players makes the game less fun to play because you are to busy watching what you say.

Guess what watching what your saying can some times make it SO hard when you are trying to get someones attention.

There are a handful of adults who are unaware of how games work like this at times. So you saying Hey Kat Wildhawk want to join my crew? It may take them 2 or 3 seconds for it to click you mean them, once that clicks communication is simple. But people who are use to hearing their names will listen to their name. If it's Amanda and you can't say that in the game its self well now that just makes it harder. And for a group of people who are friends OUT side of this game and play together would refer to each other by their true names just to make their lives easier.

Yet with all these easy ways for the players to play the game, Disney is making it harder on them I believe you should either do one of two things, take away the lame ruling on information giving, or make an adult server. At least the adult server you know who is the one giving out the information and you don't need to smack their hand and say tsk tsk. Come on we are the Adults we don't need to be scolded!

[Bartholomew Ironhound]

i have a ton of adult friends in the game but i respect them if all kids would back off and respect the adults we would have no need for shuch a thing as a speacl chat but yes it is anoying when you can'nt tell your guild their web page i have one awnser for it ever see a + sign next to the chat box ?? click it and it turns said filter off

[Edward Edgemenace]

Someone compared the Disney Pirates Online website to adult sites, above. Their point was that the adult sites have fairly reliable ways of discerning ages. I disagree with that comparison. From a legal standpoint, the Disney corporation is child-oriented. While their entertainment covers families, their target audience is still primarily minors. There is no way to compare Disney to an adult site: the target audience is different. That alone, prevents Disney from using the exact same methods as these sites.

As the game is set up now, it defends adults from false accusations and children from predators.

The notion of having adult-only POTCO servers, is as absurd as the notion of having an adult-only club open in the middle of Disneyland. Doesn't matter whether or not there is customer demand for it; the legalities of the situation prevent it.

[League]

I agree with Edward, or at least with what he posted above.

[Edward Edgemenace]

Originally Posted by League

I agree with Edward, or at least with what he posted above.

Funny, I'm not sure I agree with the watered-down edited version of my post. Typical for these forums, though. "Adult-only" does not convey what I wrote. *sigh*

Edit: Actually a pretty enormous difference between a normal "adult-only" establishment, such as a place that serves rum, that I was directly refuting.