Unlimited Members Only Servers?

[Rackat]

Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson

Yes, but without all the higher level players, there's nobody to display the benefits of paying for the newbs.

You really seem to be concerned with the newbies getting to play alongside of those of us that have paid for our unlimited access. That is commendable. Pardon me if I don't care. I played on the free account, liked it, and bought unlimited access. As a matter of fact, I bought two accounts so that my kids could play and not have to get kicked off the account when I want to play. I don't mind playing alongside the newbs at all, but I would like it a lot better if I was playing alongside of Paying newbs that don't abuse the game features. No, it isn't guarranteed that paying newbs would be better, but one can hope.

Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson

I say again, without the higher level (beyond 12) players out there demonstrating the benefits of paying, there's less incentive for newbies to pay.

If the benfits of paying were not readily seen, how many subscripion payers do you think there would be? I bought the subscription the same weekend I started playing and haven't regretted it yet. People either want to purchase the subscription or not.

Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson

Wow. A "secret friends club". I've always hated this mentality. There's nothing truly different about these "members only" servers. Thus, there's no real benefit apparent to the free members. They already get penalized with level caps, half their experience taken from kills, and having to wait to get on servers as it is.

First, the "secret friends club" is your words, not mine. Second, a members only server system would actually be preferable. If we want to recruit new members for our guilds, we know where the "free" servers are, and it keeps the free accounts from interferring with our enjoyment of the game.

Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson

How do you know this? Simply because the IDEA is simple, the IMPLEMENTATION isn't necessarily so.

It would only take a little bit of code by the programmers to tell the servers that a member may or may not join a particular server based on thier account status. It is not much diferent than being allowed or disallowed access to a forum based on your registration. Admins can access everything on their website, and they appoint Mods that are allowed to access most everyhing on the site. The same principle applies to members only servers.

Have a good weekend.

[Angel]

I dont think Disney would do this only because they rely on us unlimited higher lvls to help those basic members out. If we didnt, many of them might just quit the game all together.

[AdmiralSavvy]

You do not know how great that would be for me.

1: Less lag from all the non-members.
2: Not so many little annoying ships firing at my ship or following me from one side of the ocean to the other.
3: Less friend requests and crew invites from people I don't know, I get a lot from members but it would help this problem
4: Everytime I'm at PR or Tortuga, I sometimes have people following me around, more less spying.

It would be wow if Disney accomplsihed this.

[Ryu_Kenshin]

Dude, have you played runescape? Members can get on nonmembers and members worlds...

[Angel]

I mean people are stating their opinions and you are blatently bashing them. It looks like your pickin a fight with the forum.....

[Nathaniel Wolfson]

I mean people are stating their opinions and you are blatently bashing them. It looks like your pickin a fight with the forum.....

No. I'm not bashing them. If I'm less than civil in responses, it's only after being replied to in a less than civil manner, and much of it is simply that text is a poor nuance for conveying verbal shadings..

I've pointed out that while on a selfish level, members-only servers sound nice.

In reality, the problems they have with obnoxious players isn't going to go away. Because obnoxious players aren't limited solely to the non-paying population.

The same thing goes with laggy players.

And why exactly is it offensive to ask someone holding forth on how "easy" a project is how exactly they're qualified to talk about it?

I'm a security professional by trade, a programmer by necessity, and a game publisher on the side. And I know better than to try to speak authoritatively about something I know little to nothing about (like someone else's programming project).

If it's any consolation, I never said they had to like my responses or agree with me.

[AdmiralSavvy]

Originally Posted by Nathaniel Wolfson

No. I'm not bashing them. If I'm less than civil in responses, it's only after being replied to in a less than civil manner, and much of it is simply that text is a poor nuance for conveying verbal shadings..

I've pointed out that while on a selfish level, members-only servers sound nice.

In reality, the problems they have with obnoxious players isn't going to go away. Because obnoxious players aren't limited solely to the non-paying population.

The same thing goes with laggy players.

And why exactly is it offensive to ask someone holding forth on how "easy" a project is how exactly they're qualified to talk about it?

I'm a security professional by trade, a programmer by necessity, and a game publisher on the side. And I know better than to try to speak authoritatively about something I know little to nothing about (like someone else's programming project).

If it's any consolation, I never said they had to like my responses or agree with me.

No one cares how professional you may be so just get over it.
And no one was replying to you in a "less than civil manner", you just went ahead bashing opinions.

[Ryu_Kenshin]

There aren't many low leveled unlimiteds.

I'm starting to have a feeling that the only negative posts are coming from limited acsess guys.

[TomorrowAlpha]

Yes, a members-only server sounds nice to me. And dude, I'm sorry if you don't like the idea of a members-only server, but some of us do. It's nice that you pointed out the negatives of one, but you don't have to dash our hopes. It's not as if Disney is actually going to do it because some people want it, and we get that. If you are so adamantly against it, why post about how bad it is more than once in a thread for it?

But I do agree with you in that it is easier to get a point across verbally.

[Chris]

Yes! i have wanted this to happen ever since i became a member i hop it is in the works

[Ryu_Kenshin]

Originally Posted by TomorrowAlpha

Yes, a members-only server sounds nice to me. And dude, I'm sorry if you don't like the idea of a members-only server, but some of us do. It's nice that you pointed out the negatives of one, but you don't have to dash our hopes. It's not as if Disney is actually going to do it because some people want it, and we get that. If you are so adamantly against it, why post about how bad it is more than once in a thread for it?

But I do agree with you in that it is easier to get a point across verbally.

I made the thread to say that it was a good idea, I hope your not confusing me with the basic acess members that are sending negatives to it.

[Lady Freckles]

I highly doubt that Disney will ever implement a server for paying members only, mostly based on my years on playing TT. I see that they handle customer problems/complaints/issues with POTCO the same way they handle them on TT.

Their standard reply to problems on TT is to tell you to upgrade drivers, it's a latency problem or change servers to get away from the griefer/idiot/fill in the blank here ...

Personally I don't care whether we have a separate server or not - I don't take it all that seriously. Sure there are times that I get annoyed by certain people doing certain things, but it's not always new players, not always non-paying members. I'm not one of those hard core gamers, I play for fun so when something is really irritating me, it's time for a break.

As many a friend has said before, "It's a game, have fun."

[TomorrowAlpha]

Originally Posted by Ryu_Kenshin

I made the thread to say that it was a good idea, I hope your not confusing me with the basic acess members that are sending negatives to it.

You misunderstood me, I was talking to that other guy.

Reading some of these other posts, I can see how a basic member might feel about this. But from my personal experience (I haven't really noted any others, so its kinda biased,) I would still have gotten unlimited access whether or not I had ever seen any unlimiteds. I did it because I wanted to be able to do a certain quest and it wouldn't let me.

I also agree that Disney probably won't make a members-only server anyways, so it doesn't really matter what we want. They are going to do what they think they should, end of discussion.

[Captain Fireskull]

I would the idea of members-only servers, Imagine this:

-no noobs following you around steasling your rep
-no little light sloops shooting at your war galleon
-no friend requests every 5 seconds
-no crew requests from random people
-no noobs asking stupid questions over and over like theres no tomorrow
-a heavenly place for high levels and UA members to roam free with minimum disturbance

[Davy]

Members Only Server? I'm in for it. I'll learn to code games just so I can make my own members only server!