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Old 10-12-2009, 03:39 PM
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Exclamation very offensive word...

Ahoy toanuju22,

I think the problem here is two fold Mate, One, as TSC (Skirata) has clearly stated, “If they banned you from saying that word why oh why would you say it again”.
First, I think you are trying to simplify something here that is clearly a not simple or acceptable by the obvious looks of Disney’s response and by many other people as well.
If you ignored the first warning Mate, then what recourse do you have when trying to defend the second action of the same wrong doing?

Secondly, the root of the problem may lay here… the term “infidel” is basically viewed as a ethnic slur. A derogatory remark to another group or individual and in light of recent actions worldwide by a few militant individuals this term has world wide defamation associated with it. It may seem simple to you and simply fun, but to most of the world, there has been real life hurt and deaths by such misuse of the word and those using it. I have family members who are African American, there is a known slur word that starts with a “N” that is also racially and ethnically verbalized by wrong motives. Keep in mind Disney is the largest world wide entertainment business and employs many different people of races and backgrounds. These are the people who have world wide experiences too and probably have also seen and know the reality of the term and it's effect on others.

There is one program Disney has implemented for swearing that is not human specifically but that is new and this term “autoban” has been used long before that newly implemented program, but the fact is, there is a moderation team, real people that reviews all words, in every form of chat, nothing is overlooked and certain terms carry a flag with it.
We can all assume the term “infidel” is amongst them.

Having fought in the Persian Gulf war, I am all too familiar with the term and it’s use of such against many westerners. I am glad it is not allowed.

My hope for you Mate is that you can accept it, and just come back and play this game with a simple lesson learned.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:21 PM
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The problem 22 is the meaning such word has acquired. It has and is used in a context of hatred towards someone or something. The meaning of words and things change too. They can't tell the content in which the word is used. Use this experience as reference. If you were banned twice for it just don't use it ever. If they say its a "problem word" then abide by their rules. After all its their game. I would leave the case of the meaning of the word out of your pleas to return to POTCO. Just apologize and hope for the best. I know you can be smarter than that.
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Old 11-22-2009, 03:39 AM
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Wow... You guys nailed it. The real definition of crazy is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Disney doesn't like the word infidel. Achilles, a fellow player and Gulf War Veteran does not like the word infidel. I (a veteran but not a war veteran) don't like the word infidel. Too many people have been killed for being "infidels". It is a religious reference no matter HOW you want to twist the meaning. Man up and let this one go. It's a 24 hour suspension. Read a book or take a walk.


EDIT: OK 22. I remember you now. A decent but misguided Pirate. You have been banned a lot. You really need to let this one go before you get IP banned.

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1. Offensive. An unbeliever with respect to a particular religion, especially Christianity or Islam.
2. One who has no religious beliefs.
3. One who doubts or rejects a particular doctrine, system, or principle.
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But the way we used it as more for doubting or rejecting principle or system ect.
As is rejecting gravity or rejecting that donuts are good.
As a person who has earned a living with words, there is no way you can use the words doctrine, system or principle in the context in which they were intended and casually state that it is about rejecting gravity or donuts.

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* 15:06:05 : It was captianed by an infidel
* 15:19:00 : Scilence infidel!
* 15:24:03 : Scilence infidel!
You said what I assume to be "Silence Infidel". 22, you can't use high school logic to blame "the other guy." By your own admission you were nearly banned for the SAME WORD USE! Using "infidel" again just shows poor judgment or a complete rejection of the DOCTRINE, SYSTEM and PRINCIPLES that Disney has in place...

Drop the word "Infidel" from your lexicon mate. Play well and play often...as soon as your ban is lifted.

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Old 11-28-2009, 08:47 PM
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Well they have NO right to ban you. They LET you say it and since it was approved, they really can't ban you. Contact them and tell them that this isn't really fair. maybe they'll fix this and put it in red.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:09 PM
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i have to agree nuju... if they banned you once for it, i'd have to say the korsairs need a new word. I would REALLY hate coming back to the korsairs only to find you permabanned again. by the way, be careful about contacting big mickey so often. after awhile they might just get irritated enough to blacklist your IP adress or something like that...well i dont know if they can do that, but you get my point.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:44 PM
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Here's the definition of infidel from wiki.

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Infidel (literally "one without faith") is an English word meaning "a person who does not believe in religion"
I can see why you would be banned and/or suspended for using this word in the game. It targets certain people.

All I can say is that you should probably have more appropriate word choices when it comes to an E10+ game.

P.S.Angel Seafish, if you have open chat, you can literally say anything. I can say numbers, curse words, etc... Of course I don't, but with open chat, you can speak with other people who have open chat just like you would in real life. People without open chat can't see it, but people with it can.

So... you can say just about anything in the game, but it doesn't mean you should. Disney is giving us freedom of chat in the game, and if we choose to go against the rules by using... offensive rules, we will get in trouble.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:47 PM
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The whole story is not fully told.... Lets just say that it was well deserved.

Let this particular case serve as an example to other players when it comes to word usage, meanings, and contexts.

22 Might get his account restored, hopefully, and the lesson is learned.
 

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