Post Meeting Discussions

[Tobias_Walker]

Ok then lets bring it to TBC events...as it has been brought into the court...by non court member guild about a private event held on tuesdays by another guild

[Tobias_Walker]

This is not about fair I know Roxanna is fair...

Please...point me in the direction of the post prior to the meeting that it was established that Davy was going to have the floor...


All i see is a post by you...note i said YOU bringing up the topic of third party chat programs...

[Pirate Bood]

Tobias this is the motions before the court page.
http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ad.php?t=12556

It may be useful for you to familiarise yourself with The Brethren Court forum.

The Pirata Codex of The Brethren Court.

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ad.php?t=12547

Maya Mara
Keeper of the Court

[Roxy Redcrow]

Ahoy for those mates that may have missed last weeks meeting:

Here be a quick summary of last week's meeting and event...

Meeting was called to order; Attendance was taken.

Announcements:
The court was created to run events, not have politics amongst guilds and individuals. Therefore some changes to the way meetings are held are coming.

New Guild Membership will be slower in inducting new guilds into TBC.
The growth of the court during the 2 month time frame has been rather rapid and the initial foundations of trust amongst participating guilds did not set properly before we started building the house.

Circle of Trust needs to be established among the guilds currently involved before brining on new guilds, however, new guilds are still encouraged to participate to show their willingness to help out and also help gain the trust of the other guilds of TBC.
Also, New Guilds wanting membership should have an existing TBC member sponsor their guild for membership. This will help mates own up to their word that they will bring respectable guilds into the court, and make them more cautious of who the sponsor.

Concerning offenses against The Code:
For those that have been with this from the beginning it is essential to honor and uphold the code at all times, be it TBC event gathering or not. Many guilds are in agreement that a "one chance" rule be initiated to show the seriousness of The Code. Trust is essential for our Court to function. Trust can be established through doing joint ventures IN GAME and through discussion on the Forums. Slanderous or skewering remarks do not become a member of TBC, especially it's senior leadership. Any pirate with TBC membership found violating Disney TOS and TBC Code, with proof of said violation, will be suspended from their position in the court and possibly even from TBC. NO GREY AREA here folks. It is the duty and responsibility of the senior leadership of TBC to set an example for all participating guilds of fair play and respectful gaming. It is the duty of EVERY GM and SENIOR OFFICER of each guild participating in TBC to filter the Code we've set forth as a community, down to the lowest bilge rat on yer ship, so that every mate is informed.
(The decision to suspend any member of the Steering Committee inevitably falls on the table of TBC Chairmen, and it was a choice weighed with the utmost seriousness and not voted on before the court)

(Any evidence presented of a TBC member violating The Code, be it eye witness account or screen shot, will be taken into account by TBC Chairmen and Steering Committee Members for a ruling of action)

(Any evidence presented of a TBC Steering Committee member violating The Code, be it eye witness account or screen shot, will be taken into account by TBC Chairmen for a ruling of action)

Also,
We have the support of many pirates around the Caribbean who are pulling for us and applauding our accomplishments.
Going into the 2nd month anniversary it is my hopes that we can spread the spirit of brethrenhood and team work for the dark winds soon to be blowing into our island homeland.
This upcoming War will be further addressed at the 2nd Anniversary Meeting, Wed, 08/19/09

Sorry if i missed anything mates!

[Roxy Redcrow]

Meeting Notes from Wednesday November 11th, 2009

Guilds in Attendance:
Crimson Squad
Clan Storm
On the Loose
Thieves Den
For the Fun of It
O'Fury's Court
Black Shark Inc.
The Savvy
Pyscho Sea Mob

Announcements:
-Captain Cromwell - Be on the look out for this ghostly pirate. Mention the name "John Moses" to him and ye could be in for a reward.
[Note] There be a special code Cromwell be giving in order to receive your reward, stay keen to what ye be given.

-Steering Committee Volunteers : Now that The Steering Committee is to be separated into [3] Branches, we will need 3 Volunteers to head up each branch.
Sign Up for Steering Committee, it can be any guild mate willing to take up the torch. Event Committee needs a chairmen, Membership Committee needs a chairmen and Public Relations & Publishing Committee needs a chairmen.

-Keeping your guild mates informed! TBC is to the benefit of the guilds involved, not just the GMs and Officers that conduct the meetings. Please make the effort to trickle down the information and topics discussed here and at the forums and encourage your guild mates to become involved!

-Event Calendar: We now have an active event calendar. Click on the "Calendar" Link on the top of the page for an easy and quick way to stay informed to TBC activities & events.

-The Code: Article VI - The Articles of Sovereignty have been added to The Code. Please inform your GM / Officers / Guildmates of the updates.

-The Caribbean Poker All Stars Tournament - November: Tuesday Nov. 10th kicked off the beginning of the November Tournament. Players are invited to join in the next round of the match taking place Tuesday Nov. 24th. Check the Calendar for Time, Location, Server and Rules for the Tournament. Spread the word to your Guild Mates. Also check out "The Caribbean Poker All Stars Tournament Results" to keep track of you and your competition's chip stack.

Membership:
Guilds up for a Vote:
Crimson Squad - Vote Yay - New Brethren Court Member!
For the Fun of It - Vote Yay - New Brethren Court Member!

Probation Period Updates for New Applicants:
McRaging [4] Weeks Remaining
Oceanus’ Few [4] Weeks Remaining
Ragoonz [4] Weeks Remaining
Divine Legion [4] Weeks Remaining

Motions Before the Court:

-Propose Change in Event Day/Time - Proposed Days - Friday Nights, Saturday Nights or Afternoons, Sunday Afternoons or Early Evenings. Final Vote will take place at next week's meeting to determine a set day and time for the Events to take place on a weekly basis.

Open Floor Discussion:
-New Guilds in attendance asked questions concerning court functions and membership eligibility, etc etc. All information may be obtained by viewing "The Code" and "What is The Brethren Court?" threads in the main TBC forum.

News Update:

"The TBC has recently been approached by a representative of another alliance of guilds seeking a Merger with our Court.
I would propose that before we entertain this idea, that a Co Op to some degree first be explored.
The members of TBC have worked hard to make this Court what it is. We go by our Code, so the idea of a Merge opens the doors to a lot of discussion on how such an undertaking could be accomplished."

UPDATE:
The representative from "The Brethren of Guilds" has informed me that the organization has disbanded and that some guilds may seek membership with TBC.
We welcome new guilds with open arms and are happy to have more pirates taking up the flag of pirate community participation.

-Conclude Meeting

End Notes]<<<<<

[Tobias_Walker]

Nice links...but none of them point to anything saying DAVY a non brethren court guild would have the floor...

Thanks for proving my point

Tobias I am reminding you to keep this from being personal.
The Brethren Court Chair and Founder Roxanna who is leads the court by example granted permission for Davey to speak and it was appropriately motioned PRIOR to the meeting on the TBC forum here on POF.

In case your really missing the point...you said it was established prior to the meeting that DAVY was to be having the floor at TBC meeting

[Pirate Bood]

Originally Posted by Tobias_Walker

Nice links...but none of them point to anything saying DAVY a non brethren court guild would have the floor...

Thanks for proving my point

In case your really missing the point...you said it was established prior to the meeting that DAVY was to be having the floor at TBC meeting

I did already answer this:

Originally Posted by Pirate Bood

The Brethren Court Chair and Founder Roxanna who is leads the court by example granted permission for Davey to speak and it was appropriately motioned PRIOR to the meeting on the TBC forum here on POF.
Maya Mara
Keeper of the Court

The Motions page: http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ad.php?t=12556

Might I also remind you that Roxanna, Commodore Zeke - Speaker of the Court, Ordo Skirata - Keeper of the Court and myself as a Keeper of the Court were all in attendance administrating proceedings along with a number of court referees, all those that took the floor were permitted to do so by the Chairmen Roxanna. And as mentioned previously the correct proceedure was followed. And the floor opened for discussion on the point.

This repeated asking me to clarify how Davey Burnrat was permitted to bring his point to TBC meeting is unecessary as I did answer you initially on the subject.
Should you have any further concerns I suggest you motion them on here or approach the subject with the other administrators in attendance and Roxanna herself.


Maya Mara
Keeper of the Court

[Tobias_Walker]

hmmm so no comment on my pointing out what you said...aruguing against me...and the references you so readily supplied..

Also nothing against D but tuesdays svs event is not a Bretheren Courth Event...at least not yet...

[Dhestroyer]

Originally Posted by Tobias_Walker

hmmm so no comment on my pointing out what you said...aruguing against me...and the references you so readily supplied..

Also nothing against D but tuesdays svs event is not a Bretheren Courth Event...at least not yet...

Thank you for pointing that out Tobias, I did know that, but I also know that the crewing situation is what started this whole topic on use of voice chats vs those that didn't have it and The Bretheren Courts' stance on the issue for its events. ... I am just offering a level headed solution to an escalating issue. I not a member of the BC... at least not yet ... I am really put off by all the drama and bickering going on within the BC when its purpose is suppose to be bringing people together. Perhaps if everyone would take a breath, step back and learn to bend a bit the BC may have a chance to make it.

[Tobias_Walker]

Hey D...like i said..nothing against your post...it was well thought out...and well prepared...

I do appreciate that...

[Tobias_Walker]

Thanks maya a link that dont work...Error 404 and if youll check the records Davy applied to be a member of the court with his new guild sunday at 440 something on Sunday August 9th

Not prior to the meeting in which he was allowed to speak...

So keep quoting...facts that dont exist....

[The Skirata Clan]

All guilds members or not are allowed to participate in the events and meetings. If they asked for the floor and if this is granted then they can bring their concerns/issues to the meetings. However their vote on things is not taken into consideration. Just like this sub-forum and its threads everyone is welcomed to participate. In fact, I want to think that it is encouraged. At least I do. I am happy to see all of the points and views in this particular topic. Thanks to this I have a more informed view on this issue. With that said, I still believe that it is the choice of each and everyone here to use or not use such programs at whatever risk that might exist. Just like its a choice to participate or not in events that might involve their use. That is my particular view.

The Courts views on this topic can be viewed in other threads of this sub-forum. Even though Maya's link doesn't work, the thread is there for everyone to see. Thanks for all the views on this matter.

[Bartholomew Foulsteel]

Okay mates, I just got off the phone with a Disney rep. Guess what.

Yep. HE stated that use of ANY third party program--to include VOIP programs like X-Fire, Teamspeak, or Ventrilo--was a violation of the TOS and would result in a ban if discovered. He stated that they "discover" the use of VOIP in-game when people pass VOIP info to each other in-game.

He also stated the reason VOIP isn't permitted is because it allows users to bypass the disney chat filters they have put in place AND upgraded recently.

Now, as I stated before, there is a reason behind the rule. It doesn't matter how long VOIP has been around. It doesn't matter how long others have used it or in what other games. The rep I talked to very specifically said that in Disney's POTCO there is NO allowed 3rd party programs used in game that allow people to bypass the chat filters.

So, perhaps I was correct when I wrote earlier that it depends on who is being asked on any particular day? I would caution SAFETY over CONVENIENCE.

[The Skirata Clan]

Can someone please post what happened last meeting please I was out of town and I want to know what happened, including why was Maya removed from her position and why I wasn't asked my input in that matter.

[Roxy Redcrow]

My apologies for not replying earlier me buckos.

I have been super busy these passed few days but realize several folks were missing from last weeks meeting.

I will be posting a post meeting summary shortly as well as to the reasons why Maya was removed from Steering Committee. It was a decision that was made after careful consideration, and will be addressed in my summary.

Thanks mateys!
Roxy