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Old 03-20-2010, 12:09 AM
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I think the update will be great for the game a little late yes, D did say it was coming out last summer, but at least it will be here soon. Now quit with all this other stuff and please work on the next story PLEASE! I have to agree with Sarah this is not the I worship everything D does fansite and forum. I am a die hard Vikings fan and will watch every game I can and always cheer whole heartedly for them to win. Does that mean when either the organization, the coach, or a player does something I do not agree with I should stop being a fan, or that I should not speak up and voice my opinion? NO WAY! If you want to rant or complain go ahead, if you want to be positive and supportive go ahead, but NOBODY should tell another player to quit playing the game for voicing their opinion!
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:15 AM
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I think the update will be great for the game a little late yes, D did say it was coming out last summer, but at least it will be here soon. Now quit with all this other stuff and please work on the next story PLEASE! I have to agree with Sarah this is not the I worship everything D does fansite and forum. I am a die hard Vikings fan and will watch every game I can and always cheer whole heartedly for them to win. Does that mean when either the organization, the coach, or a player does something I do not agree with I should stop being a fan, or that I should not speak up and voice my opinion? NO WAY! If you want to rant or complain go ahead, if you want to be positive and supportive go ahead, but NOBODY should tell another player to quit playing the game for voicing their opinion!
With regards the new weapons/ inventory system. The Developers Diary #15 Disney didnt say it would be out last summer it said....
'Hopefully, you'll see some of these additions before the end of summer.' ( it didn't say ALL of the additions)
I'm sure they are working on/ have ready the next story chapter and i'm sure all this 'other stuff' is needed before we progress to the next chapter.
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After two and a half years of perpetually having "too much gold" - e.g. buying someone a war galleon or war frigate each week...what's the new max gonna be? Infinite?

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EDIT: P.S. I'm serious when I say, if anyone gets a sword I want, and we can start trading things, I'll gladly pay 10k-45k for the sword.
If I get El Patron's Sword, MacIronhawk, I'll sell it to you for US $10,000.00 sure. :-)

Hmmmm. It sure would be nice to get a rare drop from each expedition fleet battle won. But somehow, it seems like doing a "drop" system is a dramatic shift from this genre. They stopped doing clothing drops a year ago...is this setup a high maintenance scenario or what? Even if it is a system like "common" items dropped from every boss defeated...idk. We'll have to see how this goes, eh?


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The announcement says "42 clothing items." Pfffffffft.
Hat, shirt, vest, coat, belt, pants, boots = 7. Currently, you get starter item + 3 slots to fill + any clothing drops received after that inventory is full. Some people had all slots full before doing the quests, then got subsequent clothing drops. Add things like the "black bandana," the "gold bandana," the "red bandana," the "valentine's day shirt" and you could conceivably have 10 hat items alone...today.

Their new system is 42 clothing items? 6 slots instead of 3? What gives! That doesn't even cover the items people currently have! Why not 1,000 hats? Surely they aren't suggesting they transfer all that information around to every pirate encountered...only the clothes visible should be packet-identified to other viewing pirates. If they are worried about causing lag from increasing inventory, perhaps simply making that information (correctly) private could solve some lag issues...

Seriously...6 slots per clothing type? Seriously? I just don't get it - they know the limit should be huge, right? Why only 3 additional clothing slots? If you are going to the trouble of changing it all around, why leave the limit ridiculously low? Seems like a waste of programmer hours to me...they will still get the same complaints that people don't have room in inventory for special-event items.

Why did Disney call it the "bandana incident" - note: that's 2008 not 2009. The problem from that time, isn't fixed by the new inventory - if anything, this update seems worse (and I haven't even seen it yet - just going on reported facts!)


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Disney's continued spiteful punishment of basics - not to give unlimiteds more - but to punish basics - is gonna bite them. Ads continue to say "Play Online For Free" while they do stuff like this. The downgrades in-game for basics that were formerly unlimited is outrageous. It's as if Disney is saying "thanks for being our customer - now keep paying for nothing or we'll make it worse than being a starter character." The majority of the nag screens appear only for formerly-unlimited basics, instead of newbie basics at the end of 1 week. People continue to go basic for lack of content - so instead of adding new quests they add random drops. That oughta make their former customers come back. Not.

Think about it - the basics (that were formerly unlimited) that you see in-game are without any question, the most helpful pirates you encounter. They can't steal rep - they give away gold weekly - they boost your crew bonus - they heal like you've never seen - they revive you when you're down - they sail you around when you need cannon rep - they give you retraining hints when they see you doing something wrong. Why? Just to hang out with old friends occasionally, while waiting for whatever they are waiting for. (The Kraken, in my case.) In return, they get 10 times the nag screens that "preview basics" get, they get insults daily from elitists, they can't use skills they've earned, they can't use ships they've earned, they can't wear (OR EVEN SELL) clothes they earned from drops or quests, they can't wear tats they've earned, they can't finish quests that they started and now they can't equip weapons they capture. "Play Online For Free" is quite far from a true statement. Once you've paid money to Disney for some unlimited because you thought it might be worth it, the mouse marks you as a target.

Quite frankly, the attitude shown by several above, is beyond sickening. But what goes around, comes around; no action needed on my part, there.

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Question: Will we have to start over when this hits live? I dont want to get rid of my characters. :'( oh and btw woot on over a hundred replies to this news article lol
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Question: Will we have to start over when this hits live? I dont want to get rid of my characters. :'( oh and btw woot on over a hundred replies to this news article lol
I highly doubt you would have to. To sum it up to what I believe is happening: We get more inventory room on top of current inventory, and new weapons on top of old one that have a chance to provide a new ability to your current characters.... I got right.... right?
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This is from the March 2009 Newsletter
On the Horizon ...
We hear you! Pirates like to collect stuff, so naturally being able to carry more things - and possibly even trading these things with other players - is something we know all Pirates are very interested in.

In response to your comments for a better inventory system, we're currently working on major improvements to Inventory. When these changes come online in the middle of the year, you'll have more places to store effects like clothing, hats, and other items. Plus, we'll be releasing new items and effects to customize your Pirate. Keep an eye on the Newsletter for more information about this update!
I guess they meant the middle of next year LOL

http://piratesonline.go.com/v3/#/gam..._diary_13.html
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Developers Diary #14 April 17th 09 also says....

Inventory. Our inventory system is still undergoing a dynamic overhaul. As I've said before, Pirates by their very nature collect stuff, so having more slots for storage, is definitely something Pirates could use, and of course that will mean new clothing, hats, and other items to accessorize your Pirate.

This was put back it seems while they worked on game performance. But it was mantioned again in the next Developers Diary #15. (see my last post for quote.)
Things cant always be brought out when they say (things beyond their control happen) But it has always been coming. And now it is upon us. Whats the point of criticising it before we know how its gonna play out.
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Well of course they changed the date ie its now coming soon! I could tell you the next story quest will be coming out next month only to move the date back again and again whatever keeps those players exited and paying till we figure it out keeps the money rolling in and the game open!
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Mamma mia, this really turned in to a really long discussion. Might as well throw in my two cents while the bonfire is still lit..

The way I see it: just be glad that its here and on the way. I'll admit, I was pretty hypocritical of how long it actually took them to get it done, but at least now I have the satisfaction of knowing its quite close. Can't always hang on past mistakes, aye?

I honestly don't care about how much I'm paying compared to other MMO's (which, btw, POTCO has one of the lowest monthly charges out there) or how late we got this content compared to others, and other stuff. As I previously stated, I'm just glad its here. This game keeps me entertained, whether through its gaming aspects or its social ones. After all, MMO's are just games there for entertainment. And if I had to rate POTCO based on how entertaining it is, it gets a 10/10.

I realize how frustrating it must be on how limiting the game is to Basics. Trust me, I was Basic a few weeks ago, and I wanted to tear my hair out. But you need to take this from Disney's point of view - this game to them is a company. Company's make you money. And if you give basics more stuff... well, your losing money! Which is why many people see basic access as so limiting. This makes new pirates wanna experience all parts of the game. And when people get Unlimited, then Disney gets (you guessed it) money! I'm not saying I agree with this, you just gotta realize their stance on this argument. After all, if you only hear the Prosecution's testimony in a court case, and not the Defense's, chances are, you'll lean towards the Prosecution.

Back on topic... I'm excited to see how this is gonna work out.

I don't need ends on ends of clothing pieces, yet 3 pieces of clothing was kinda frustrating, especially when you have to sell one of your favorite pieces to buy something else. So I'd say 6 is a fair amount... well, at least, thats what I, a male player may say. Not so sure about the girls though

I'm actually glad they didn't have us do another quest. After all, after 2 sets of weapon quests, I'm sure they might run out of ideas by the 3rd. After all, its more exciting to be uncertain WHEN your gonna get your loot, other than just grinding through easy tasks (if your in the higher levels, at least.)

A higher gold cap? I can barely reach the current cap with all the spending I do! I think in order to increase the gold cap successfully, they need to add more stuff to actually spend it on - the ability to carry more ships (or even new ships, or customization ) new clothing, jewelry, etc. etc.

And lastly, I'm really excited that you'll actually be able to have different weapons than everybody else (especially that El Patron sword!) You know, it kinda gets drab and repetitive when every single level 45 has the same sword. With this new edition, it makes the game more exciting, more colorful. Now, you'll WANT to find those bigger and badder weapons (gotta catch em all!)

This update is definately going to have a HUGE impact on the game, PvE, PvP, and social-wise. No matter how it ends up working, I'm still looking foward to it
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Oh and btw what about my pirate that already has 42 clothing items under the current inventory system where is his expansion! If it is possible to have 42 under the current system then they are just dressing up what is already there.

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Mamma mia, this really turned in to a really long discussion. Might as well throw in my two cents while the bonfire is still lit..

The way I see it: just be glad that its here and on the way. I'll admit, I was pretty hypocritical of how long it actually took them to get it done, but at least now I have the satisfaction of knowing its quite close. Can't always hang on past mistakes, aye?

I honestly don't care about how much I'm paying compared to other MMO's (which, btw, POTCO has one of the lowest monthly charges out there) or how late we got this content compared to others, and other stuff. As I previously stated, I'm just glad its here. This game keeps me entertained, whether through its gaming aspects or its social ones. After all, MMO's are just games there for entertainment. And if I had to rate POTCO based on how entertaining it is, it gets a 10/10.

I realize how frustrating it must be on how limiting the game is to Basics. Trust me, I was Basic a few weeks ago, and I wanted to tear my hair out. But you need to take this from Disney's point of view - this game to them is a company. Company's make you money. And if you give basics more stuff... well, your losing money! Which is why many people see basic access as so limiting. This makes new pirates wanna experience all parts of the game. And when people get Unlimited, then Disney gets (you guessed it) money! I'm not saying I agree with this, you just gotta realize their stance on this argument. After all, if you only hear the Prosecution's testimony in a court case, and not the Defense's, chances are, you'll lean towards the Prosecution.

Back on topic... I'm excited to see how this is gonna work out.

I don't need ends on ends of clothing pieces, yet 3 pieces of clothing was kinda frustrating, especially when you have to sell one of your favorite pieces to buy something else. So I'd say 6 is a fair amount... well, at least, thats what I, a male player may say. Not so sure about the girls though

I'm actually glad they didn't have us do another quest. After all, after 2 sets of weapon quests, I'm sure they might run out of ideas by the 3rd. After all, its more exciting to be uncertain WHEN your gonna get your loot, other than just grinding through easy tasks (if your in the higher levels, at least.)

A higher gold cap? I can barely reach the current cap with all the spending I do! I think in order to increase the gold cap successfully, they need to add more stuff to actually spend it on - the ability to carry more ships (or even new ships, or customization ) new clothing, jewelry, etc. etc.

And lastly, I'm really excited that you'll actually be able to have different weapons than everybody else (especially that El Patron sword!) You know, it kinda gets drab and repetitive when every single level 45 has the same sword. With this new edition, it makes the game more exciting, more colorful. Now, you'll WANT to find those bigger and badder weapons (gotta catch em all!)

This update is definately going to have a HUGE impact on the game, PvE, PvP, and social-wise. No matter how it ends up working, I'm still looking foward to it

I had heard that Pirates had started this system during the summer, but the reason they didn't release was because of its higher levels. They were probably working on it to allow us more freedom with the update, and not have to mess with starting over. Sounds logical, but you know, Disney is (iREALLY!) slow at fixing, and making updates....

But I do believe this guy knows what he's saying, and he definitely knows what he wants. The gold is not really used for much more than a few select clothing items, and other items that your character can wear in the game. I would love to see new ships and ship parts that were promised before as well, but I would really like to buy more than a few weapons. Beyond buying ammo and your basic beginner weapons in the Gun Shop and Cutlass shop, there is just nothing more to see when you go into either one of the shops. The game has been rather, unsatisfying due to those points, but they will hopefully help to remedy this issue with the weapon shops.
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Add em up remember there are 4 items to each page
4 vests
10 shirts
7 pants
5 coats
4 shoes
6 hats
6 belts
42 total clothing items under the current inventory system so what exactly got expanded as far as the clothes go?
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Add em up remember there are 4 items to each page
4 vests
10 shirts
7 pants
5 coats
4 shoes
6 hats
6 belts
42 total clothing items under the current inventory system so what exactly got expanded as far as the clothes go?

Gosh darn it, i KNEW there was going to be a cache! I hope they mean 42 of each type.. (like 42 Vests, 42 Shirts, etc..)
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( Too lazy to actually quote it - plus the quote would be long )

In your case, it wouldn't be much since you have gotten many rare drops ( Or so it seems that way ). Most people usually have 4 of each section.
4x7=28.

In this case, the Clothing Inventory boost would be very useful. Again, in your case, you broke the cap - meaning the drops you got still went into your pocket.

Edit: I'm sure, Babidi, that it MIGHT be 42 of each item. That would be around 11 pages of clothes ( 4 On each - 2 on the remaining page ). I soubt it'll be like that, though, as there aren't many clothes of each type unless you want to make a rainbow of them.
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In your case, it wouldn't be much since you have gotten many rare drops ( Or so it seems that way ). Most people usually have 4 of each section.
4x7=28.

In this case, the Clothing Inventory boost would be very useful. Again, in your case, you broke the cap - meaning the drops you got still went into your pocket.

Edit: I'm sure, Babidi, that it MIGHT be 42 of each item. That would be around 11 pages of clothes ( 4 On each - 2 on the remaining page ). I soubt it'll be like that, though, as there aren't many clothes of each type unless you want to make a rainbow of them.
A bit of clarification on CrazyPirate. I think you're right mate, the 42 items could be an issue in your case.

At the moment yes, we have the ability to only purchase so we are up to 4 items per type, Vest, Shirt, Bottom, Coat, Boots, Hat, Belt, or yes 28. That said from the PR, Tuga, and PDF clothing quests we gain 19 items. (3 vest, 3 shirt, 3 bottom, 3 shoe, 3 belt, 3 hat, 1 coat. [I think, it's been a while since I did any but the PDF]) Last time I checked that totaled 47 items right there. The new cap is 42. So, assuming they don't mean 42 of each item, and also that unlike now quest items count in those totals, we will be not gaining, but loosing spaces. Hardly fair. Now, if, like currently the quest items do NOT count, then no problem for those of us who don't have the full inventory.

I just wonder, like CrazyPirate, if the pirates out there who have the full compliment of chosen and quest items will loose some. Because I really don't think they mean 42 of each item. (Another large Disney MMO just recently switched from numbers per item to one large lump number for all as well. Personally, I'd love their member total, they get 500 clothing items and 300 of home stuff, which in our case could be jewelry and tattoos. As if there were even that many or that many good ones. I'd be happy with a lump of 300 items total for clothing and jewelry and tattoos.) In case your wondering, yes, I'm a girl. That's just my added thoughts on this.
 

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