A Hidden Member

[Dog Firestack]

We all know that sometimes Officers offline can cause havoc throughout a guild. So I thought about an idea. What if the GM could customize a feature where the person they promote is INVINSIBLE to others, and they only show as a member. To the GM and other officers they show up as an officer. Give me some thoughts.

[AdmiralSavvy]

There are a few things that I don't understand. How can an offline Officer cause havoc in a guild? If the Officer is online and causing havoc, though, the GM could just demote/eject them and problem solved. I don't see the point of invisible Officers.

[Cannonfury]

I'm confused too...what do you mean...what could the invisible people do??

[Captain Del]

Translation:

We all know that whenever an Officer is not online in the guild, it is more than likely things will get out of hand, without somebody there to reprimand unruly members. So, what if the Guildmaster had the ability to make a promotion "unseen?"

Basically, say a member was promoted to Officer, but the Guildmaster would make the promotion invisible. Nobody would know the member was an Officer, except fellow Officers, and the GM. To the members, it would still show that person as a member.

Now, whenever a visible Officer is offline, but an invisible Officer is, this "invisible" Officer would be able to keep an eye on the guild, without the members knowing.

I think it would be a good idea.

[CaptainMonkeys]

Originally Posted by Stealthy Cannoneer

No- because since when does an offline officer create havoc??

Originally Posted by Captain Del

Translation:

I think it would be a good idea.

^^

I think it would be a good idea, too, because if a Member is caught griefing and that guild auto-ejects griefers, the "undercover" officer could just boot them right then if absolutely necessary.

[Tiberius Fireskull]

Sure, why not. It doesn't seem to have a downside, so why not put it in?

[Chimera Doll]

I think it's a good idea!
It's true that in some guilds when officers aren't online or even the guildmaster, some members act differently.

[pieisbetter2]

I like the idea, but I selected other. Because yes, sometimes people could cause trouble in a guild when Officers are offline, but maybe the GM of said guild, could just select a certain member that they trust, who can be on more then the others, to watch over everyone invisibly. So basically, this feature would not have to be planted in-game, as it could be used as described above

[AdmiralSavvy]

Hmm, that does make more sense. If that's what Dog meant, then I just wish I could change my vote to yes, xD.

[Edward Edgemenace]

Transparency and openness is crucial - in this game in particular, where "community problems" run rampant. Having a "Gestapo Secret Police" rank is an amazingly bad idea.

[The Stealthy Pirate]

No- because since when does an offline officer create havoc??

[WitchdoctorDan]

*Puts on mirrored shades and grows a 70s cop movie mustache... instantly...*

I'm down for it.

And what would "Other" mean in this situation? :P

[Captain Jason]

Nice mustache Dan. Anyway, I think I'll go with no. Most "Invisible officers" Would probably just start bragging about getting promoted. That's just the way alot of people are. And, like Edward said, if people found out that there were so many secrets in the guild being kept from them, they would feel left out. Everyone in the guild deserves to know what's going on. I see where it could help, but a member could simply tell an officer that a member is doing something not allowed in the guild or POTCO.

[Jack Shipsteel]

But an invisible officer is just like a veteran, no?

A veteran can only recruit, yes. However, they seem lesser than the officer to the rank and file members. Don't get me wrong, veterans are just as important as officers, however, they can only recruit in the members eyes, so there's no reason to behave.

Part of a veterans job is to report any mis-doings to an officer. The officer can take further action.

Invisible can mean many things. But the visible who can act invisible are truly dangerous. There's no need for an invisible officer if you have a rank such as veteran.

[Captain Del]

Originally Posted by Jack Shipsteel

But an invisible officer is just like a veteran, no?

Technically no.

A Veteran only has the power to recruit, which is my point. They can't boot anybody if an Officer isn't online.

Being a Guildmaster, I can count off a list of things that would require immediate reprimandation, such as griefing. Of course, if an Officer isn't "online," the griefer can't be dealt with. That's why "invisible officers" would be needed.

Of course, then you'll just say "But then why don't you just make him/her an Officer?" Well, it's simple.

I have dealt with pirates in both PNC, and other guilds, that come to a guild for the sole purpose of griefing; to ruin the reputation of that guild. Of course, any smart "sleeper cell" wouldn't do it when an authority figure was online. They would wait until no Officer is online before they commence the trouble making. Of course, with invisible officers, the griefers won't know when and when not to do so, and more than likely discourage it.

Transparency and openness is crucial - in this game in particular, where "community problems" run rampant. Having a "Gestapo Secret Police" rank is an amazingly bad idea.

It's not like we're running a Watergate Scandal here. This is merely for Guild Protection. I would be pretty open in letting my members know we would have invisible Officers - just, I won't tell them who.