Spania - our take

[Davy Darkrage]

It is unfortunate but most basic players have given themselves the reputation of not sticking around in the game, rightfully getting bored after they reach their limits. We are looking for people willing to commit and stick around in the long term. I don't think being basic is a bad thing, and am not saying they all leave, but it is a trend I have certainly noticed.

Much the same to those less than lv15. Additionally, everyone was new at some point and getting into the game is a wonderful thing, but we would like people with a basic understanding of how it works. I am not sure how friendly our guild would feel to someone under level 15, as many of us are in higher level places that might intimidate newer pirates. However, I would usually offer to help those who meet the other requirements level to 15 to be able to join us.

My 2 cents.

Originally Posted by buzzbrad7

Here is my experience being in spania in my own words the day i got invited everyone online greeted me with nice and warm Hello's Hello's and laughter then the next day i felt like i fit right in i ask is anyone at darkhart or can someone help me with this quest everyone is eager to help or say i am at darkhart i love how much guild participation there is for the invasions its no man gets left behind if someone dies we go reveive them joining spania was the best decision i made i am happy to be part of such a great guild

Glad to hear you like it!

[Ofury/ Tom]

well good thing there are some guilds out there to except basics because this guild doesn't what kinda model guild is it to win strongest guild if you have such requirments. it would be like Disney saying you have to have a credit score of x or higher to play their game which they don't

[Treasurer]

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom

i would like to question as to why you have requirements such as lvl 15 and up and unlimited access are you saying that great pirates must have the money to spare on a game?

My guild enjoys to have the new basic "noob" person join our guild so we can spark the interest in this game and share the love we have for pirates online.

Why put a requirement such as that?

Thanks so much for your questions. Here you go:

We have been increasing our requirements over time.

First I want to tell you that it has been a long way, and we have been adding these requirements as they were needed, it wasn't something we did overnight. It has nothing to do with money. We occasionally take basic access members if we are sure they are gonna meet the standard we expect from everyone else, and we do have some basic members in the guild, I'll tell you I was a basic member one week into competition we recently won, and I am proud to say it.

First it has much to do with the foundation of our guild, we have always been an active guild, and we wanted to keep it that way. Back in the day, we used to take basic players of all levels. Our numbers were increasing but the number of active players started dropping - Not such a great idea for a guild that plans to be around for while is it? - and what do you plan to let your current players down?. So we realized that unlimited players are basic players that are more committed to the game. And there is the other flip of the coin, are these really good basic players that are mature, are committed to the game, follow the code, and can't afford to pay, we still take these. But the other poll of players left are the kind of players we don't want in the guild, limited nor unlimited, and also note that we don't have unlimited space in the guild. We are in very limited space in our guild some times we have to turn down unlimited players. And our basic players in the guild are as important as everyone else.


Our guild has reached the maximum number of member - 500 at least 20 times. This is a big problem - we wouldn't be able to guild limited nor unlimited. So the obvious thing for a guild that wants to stay afloat would be, open space , for these deserving talents out there that are committed to the game, and to our guild.


We first added the level cap of 10, when we reached 500 members for the first time. At that point, everyone in the guild was already LV 30 and up, including a few LV 20s. After a while everyone in the guild was passed level 30 or just about, so we believed it was fair for our members to raise the cap to 15, therefore increasing the consistency of what we already are or have.

I hope this answers your question.

[Davy Darkrage]

I'm sorry if you do not feel our requirements are just, but we are entitled to set them as we like, just as any other guild.

[Nate Swordwalker]

So, my membership ends in March. If I prove my mark, and I am an active player, participate, I will not be dumped on the street?

[Treasurer]

Originally Posted by Nate Swordwalker

So, my membership ends in March. If I prove my mark, and I am an active player, participate, I will not be dumped on the street?

Nope ........ this is the beauty of being in our guild, our members have some unalienable natural rights

If I prove my mark, and I am an active player, participate,

This is the key for success

[Davy Darkrage]

We would like to welcome our MEMBERS to the forums


Basil Seaskull LVL 50
Hector Scurvybones LVL 35
Roger Sharkshot ??
Hector Daggerrackham LVL 44




We also have some members accounts that are currently on hold/approval: ( that we know about )


AngelGoldbain
Victoria
Rosa Dusk
Isaiah Darkfury
Bart Bladespinner
Capten Blacksheep
RoseRedfury
JackisBack
Will Darkmonk


I hope you folk can make soon!!

[Molly Ironscarlett]

aye we look forward to the chats and strategies mates... share and share alike, lol ehh we're pirates.... arrrggghhhh take that back see ye below decks mates

[Treasurer]

FULL MEMBERS LIST UPDATE

MEMBERS LIST

1. Arabian Beauty LVL 50
2. Carlos LVL 50
3. Davy Darkrage LVL 48
4. Davy Warshout LVL 48
5. Capt Darkblade LVL 29
6. Charlotte Truebonney LVL 43
7. Delirious LVL 50
8. Jason Ironskull LVL 50
9. Sven Ironwalke LVL 50
10. Player LVL 29
11. Marc Shorecutter LVL 50
12. Nate Swordwalker -
13. Molly mcsilver LVL 50
14. Molly Ironscarlett LVL 50
15. Jacob LVL 50
16. Basil Seaskull LVL 50
17. Hector Scurvybones LVL 35
18. Roger Sharkshot -
19. Hector Daggerrackham LVL 44

As Davy mentioned, These members accounts are on hold still,

• AngelGoldbain
• Victoria
• Rosa Dusk
• Isaiah Darkfury
• Bart Bladespinner
• Capten Blacksheep
• RoseRedfury
• Will Darkmonk
• Curtisbucher +
• Ship Boy +
• AmeliaDarkskull +
• Will (Will023)+

[Ofury/ Tom]

I see your point but why must a guild always grow? its simple to delete inactive members but why always be focused on growing? If all you do is focus on growing and sorts it becomes less fun.... Delete the inactive members and just let people join of any size or shape thats how my guild does and we do fine and if some of your active members leave then ask to come back but your full then apartantly they aren't that loyal to ya cause the decided to join a different guild that appealed more....



(Just my say..... I was kicked outta a guild cause i was basic when i was a young pirate this matter does not float with me from my past experiances)

[Davy Darkrage]

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom

I see your point but why must a guild always grow? its simple to delete inactive members but why always be focused on growing? If all you do is focus on growing and sorts it becomes less fun.... Delete the inactive members and just let people join of any size or shape thats how my guild does and we do fine and if some of your active members leave then ask to come back but your full then apartantly they aren't that loyal to ya cause the decided to join a different guild that appealed more....



(Just my say..... I was kicked outta a guild cause i was basic when i was a young pirate this matter does not float with me from my past experiances)

We do purge inactive members on occasion, however many members are active and have become very close to others in the guild. I would not say we are focused on growing, if anything the requirements are to help slow growth to a manageable rate. Again, I am sorry that you feel our requirements are unfair, but they will remain the same for the foreseeable future.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by magicmarbels

Today i was having problems getting disconnected and last night while on crew with my guild.
I went back on in game and mentioned the problem that i was having and before i knew it guild members were sending me advice. I pleasantly surprised because this was the first time i experienced this kind of responce. Thankyou all for helping. This is a great guild!

I am glad you enjoy our guild, it has a very friendly and helpful atmosphere.

[Treasurer]

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom

I see your point but why must a guild always grow? its simple to delete inactive members but why always be focused on growing?

Davy Is right, we don't want to grow (not literally, but we rather prefer a steady flow)- after the 500 members it is impossible to grow more number wise (currently). But many pirates desperately want to join and would do anything to join - causing an effect that makes us take other measures - such as clean some space and give them a fair chance, otherwise people keep asking without leaving us alone; don't want to get to the point of having to report them or run away from them just not to allow them in, so we just take reasonable approach.

But we also are more than willing to grow player experience wise. If we know someone is talented we would love to guild that person as long he or she is willing to follow the rules.

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom

If all you do is focus on growing and sorts it becomes less fun....

Again that is not what we do, we have do a lot more than just have fun, we have responsibilities - each one of our members does, and we have fun, we have dedication, we have experience, we have a lot more than fun.

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom

Delete the inactive members and just let people join of any size or shape thats how my guild does and we do fine

We try our best not to do clean ups (anymore). We have gotten to the point where most of what we have left are great members. And it is very hard to choose people who take the kick just to have someone else join, if the person joining won't match the level of experience or the contributions the member who is already in the guild has done even if inactive. Also we have some innactive players that we know well they are inactive but they will never be removed as they have a legacy in our guild.

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom

and if some of your active members leave then ask to come back but your full then apartantly they aren't that loyal to ya cause the decided to join a different guild that appealed more....

We have very few of these cases now days. But again anyone member is WELCOME to leave any time they want. We do not force our members to stay in the guild.

Originally Posted by Ofury/ Tom

(Just my say..... I was kicked outta a guild cause i was basic when i was a young pirate this matter does not float with me from my past experiances)

I am sorry you had this issue. We don't remove our members just because. Whether they are basic or not.

[Davy Darkrage]

Good points! To reiterate and add on a bit:

• We may be willing to guild a basic member who was previously unlimited
• We do not kick members who are unlimited and then go grey
• Anyone who gets removed in a guild clean up is welcome back should they become active again (though clean-ups are rare at this point)

[Treasurer]

Originally Posted by Davy Darkrage

Good points! To reiterate and add on a bit:

• We may be willing to guild a basic member who was previously unlimited
• We do not kick members who are unlimited and then go grey
• Anyone who gets removed in a guild clean up is welcome back should they become active again (though clean-ups are rare at this point)

That is a great way to summarize it Davy, These points seem pretty accurate.

[Ofury/ Tom]

Well Good luck with ya guild! Take time and effort in chossing officers... or you'll end up like me going from 400 to 53....