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11-16-2010, 04:20 AM
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11-16-2010, 04:31 AM
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I'm used to no guns shooting at navy and stuff therefore i like game as it is plus i only play because of ship pvp. |
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11-16-2010, 06:06 AM
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Let me point this out. You say that we can slash, blow up, drown, poison, burn, and do other horrors to our Navy friends, and now you want to shoot them aye? But, why would you want to shoot them when we are already able to slash, blow up, drown, poison, burn, and do other horrors to them. Its like wanting more money when you already have a bazillion dollars. I honestly don't even think we need to. If I use my gun, I go blow up Darkhart, and I'm sure he appreciates the company. Also, let me point this out again. A normal human being can only take one or so shots from a gun! Now, before you counter with how many slashes from a sword one can take, think of it like this. Instead of health, their HP points are more like defense power. As you continue slashing away, their defense power decreases, and then once it's low enough, you take that final slash which is the ONLY slash that actually hits them. See what I'm saying? And nobody, unless your some uber awesome speedy master ninja guy, can block a bullet, or group of bullets if your using a blunderbuss. |
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11-16-2010, 12:23 PM
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11-16-2010, 03:56 PM
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every thing hould be able to shoot everyone
Okay, i get what your saying. i think of it that way sometimes to, but i never thought of how skeletons being able to take more than one shot. thanks for posting here.
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11-16-2010, 05:52 PM
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This is actually a very good debate...as we all know, there are far, far worse games out there that are incredibly brutal and violent...and what's even worse is that many parents still buy these games for their kids...yes kids... what's worse is that lil 10yr olds, etc go to mommy & daddy and say "buy me this for XBox or w/e console" and they do it because the console is the new babysitter of today...
We as adults have the knowledge to know what's right and wrong, and can distinguish fact from fiction whereas kids, even thought they should know better by now, can also still be influenced...the thing is to teach them what we already know...it's not real life, it's a game... Now, as for this game...we've all seen the movies, we've seen that while yes it is a Big D movie there is still violence in it and yes we do see soldiers firing their bayonets at Pirates...we saw Jack Sparrow pull his gun on Will Turner, we saw Jack shoot Barbossa, heck we saw Jack's father Captain Teague shoot someone...and we saw Beckett pull a gun on Jack as well... While the Pirate's Codex is "merely a set of guidelines", they still for the most part honor it as much as they possibly can...which is why we should honor the game as it is and not change it...we have plenty of things to shoot at with our guns...and I'm sure that if Disney ever wanted to up the level of realism then they would add it to the game... Plus if you think about it, weapons of that time were terribly inaccurate...yet in this game we have the ability to hold steady and charge up before firing...in real life that would not be... I think that while it would add a bit of realism to the game, for now I think we should just let it be... Last edited by Sven Niscadae; 11-16-2010 at 09:14 PM.. Reason: Inappropriate, HCT |
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11-17-2010, 03:23 AM
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Guys, the GUN part of the code thing is merely contrived convenience to keep the game from degrading into a mass shoot out.
Logic being logic, why shouldn't a group of Navy come running, muskets blazing when down one of their compatriots? Don't question the realism - ITS A GAME. |
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11-17-2010, 06:49 PM
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I see a lot of good points on both sides, and agree with parts of both. I am for the most part though glad we can't use guns on humans. Skeletons and Tormenta guys look enough not like humans that those are fine. Anyway, technically they only used to be human. It would add a little much realism yes. Which, I suppose is why, like others have said, there's no hand to hand combat. I'd say leave it as is. (Though I would love to see a weapon added at level 40. Off topic yeah I know lol.)
I don't agree with the people who say a game can't be sued. That's not entirely true. No, they can't bring a criminal suit against them. But so far as I know there's no reason someone couldn't file civil suit. Also, while it's not a video game but a movie, I'm sure there are those of you on here who remember the Matrix Defense? Years back someone committed a crime, and used the defense the Matrix made them do it. Yeah, there's a difference between a game and a movie. But I can guarantee there are people at Disney who remember that. I think they are covering bases by not letting us shoot people. Speaking personally I say leave well enough alone. In the long range of the game, the ability to shoot or not is minor. Anyway, if they have to develop shooting humans into the game then they'd probably want to do reworking of quests and such to fit that, particularly the pistol quests. Something tells me they do not want to add to the pistol quest, Defeat 8 Navy Soldiers using a pistol. Besides, any development on this would take away from whatever they are currently planning. I would far rather see a story chapter than the ability to shoot Navy and Eitc. (No, it wouldn't take near as long to do the later, but that's just how I feel.) |
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11-19-2010, 03:50 PM
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Kids are impressionable. If they have a bad memory or such, they'll be affected by it more than a good memory; if they see someone doing a bad action, they'll think it's okay to do too. It doesn't matter if it's a game, having people shooting guns at each other in a kids game is not recommended. Sure, there is some older people that play this game that may want to shoot the Navy and EITC, and younger players who also want to do that, but it just wouldn't work. Like Eliza said, the game would just become a shoot-out. This part of the "Pirate Code" has not driven players away, and if it has, then it is that player's own fault. All because you can't shoot two types of enemies, you'll quit the game? I am sure there is other games where you cannot shoot certain types of enemies - isn't this just the same thing? They have implemented it into an easy-to-understand part of the game's "Pirate Code."
Disney, no matter what you think or what statistics you have, intended this game for younger kids, because Disney's aim is to enterain and let kids have their own imagination. Of course there is adults that are entertained and follow Walt Disney's dream. But I think the team of POTCO realizes that shooting a gun is something much more realistic than stabbing someone with a sword, or attuning someone with a voodoo doll. A lot of kids these days are already rude because it is "funny," ignorant because "You're not the boss of me, I don't care how you feel," arrogant because "I'm smarter than you and there's nothing you can do to make me stop,"and violent because "how come my favorite TV show character is allowed to do it?!" All of this comes from something the kid has seen, therefore being impressioned or imprinted on. So now, think about it. Disney tries to avoid this in every way; so why would it seem wrong to them, or in this case, us, for them to not allow us to shoot two different types of enemies, out of the many kinds there is? It is not like it is hypocritical; the Navy and EITC soldiers don't come after us with pistols, repeaters, and blunderbusses. In fact, no enemy is able to shoot a pirate. So why should we be able to shoot any enemy at all? We shoot skeletons, alligators, crabs, wasps, bats, anything of Jolly Roger's army you can think of. That's a lot of kinds of enemies. And then there is Navy soldiers and EITC soldiers. The only two types of enemies we cannot shoot with gun-based weapons. It's only two and there is a big commotion over it. I am absolutely sure you can find another game that has something similiar to this; you can't shoot a certain type of enemy. And if you think not being able to level shooting on the Navy/EITC is a problem, they have bayonets for a reason. Honestly, I think this is a great decision that the POTCO team made. |
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11-20-2010, 02:09 AM
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Yea, guns are the only weapons that are easy to access for some people, and are more realistic. I'll go over my opinion on each weapon as well.
Sword: Not too hard to get a hold of one, as some families, including my own, own a sword. However, if you have ever tried to hold a sword, they are really, really heavy. A young child will not be able to lift it very high, let alone stab someone. Doll: As Countainer said, you can buy them, but it won't do anything unless you throw it at someone xD Dagger: Yes, you can use kitchen knives. However, most kids have been taught not to "play with sharp objects". Most people never tell them to never play with guns, cuz they assume they can't get them. Grenades: Ok really, nobody owns a collection of grenades. I'm fairly certain its illegal, and even if I'm wrong, I doubt a kid would know how to use it. Again, the only way you can get grenades is by being in the military. Staff: Ok, closest thing is a branch from the tree outside. Only thing you can do with it is go whack whack whack. No voodoo spells. Gun: Families do own guns. Animal control, police officers, former soldiers, these people may have kids, and their gun in their closet. Easy to get a hold of, and dangerous. |
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11-20-2010, 04:11 AM
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Also I'd like to point out that it is extremely rare for a human being above the age of about 8 or 9 to become influenced by a video game. The reason being is that they are taught by basically everyone around them that it is virtual and not the real thing and most parents teach their kids that basically anything done in a Grand theft auto game is bad.
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11-20-2010, 07:15 AM
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11-20-2010, 08:19 PM
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Slouyx if you see a kid that has been influenced by a video game, JUST THE VIDEO GAME, not online interactions, then please recommend them to a therapist as any person who can comprehend right from wrong will not become influenced by video games. An example for you: I play Grand Theft Auto and I know a large handful of people who do, yet we aren't stealing cars from people, talking trash, or commiting any other crimes. My conclusion is that anyone who knows that Video games are not the real world, will not be influenced by a video game. ( And kids who have game related b-day parties or wear game related Halloween costumes don't count. )
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everyone should be able to shoot everything.
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