Suggestion for Adult Servers- LISTEN UP DISNEY GUYS!!! (lol)

[jason davy]

Originally Posted by DarkScarlett

I could not even type the word EAST which is a navigational term, i could not type the word commerce or Harley as in bikes or tap as in water for petes sake i tryed to address someone by thier Disney pirate name and it wouldn't allow Lighten up not all adults are foul mouthed spazoids

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS TO ME. of course, we've all learned to deal with it, but in a game of half or mostly adults, something seriously has to give. adult servers would be a dream come true... assuming we could say what we want. sheesh......

Originally Posted by Bartholomew Ironhound

i have a ton of adult friends in the game but i respect them if all kids would back off and respect the adults we would have no need for shuch a thing as a speacl chat but yes it is anoying when you can'nt tell your guild their web page i have one awnser for it ever see a + sign next to the chat box ?? click it and it turns said filter off

there are a ton of words that wont show up when the filter is off. considering that it is mostly adults on this thread, i think its pretty safe to say that 1- we KNOW what safe chat is and 2- we dont have it on.

[Lib Feathers]

Originally Posted by Silver Beard

What some of you are saying, like respelling things, was what turned another game I played into a nightmare. This is a E 10+ game, but do you hear Captain Jack swearing after school? Nope. I like this game and I just don't want it to go to waste because some people want to use language in the game just because their ship sunk...I mean, come on, your ship sinks and you swear, and then you go to jail and do it all over again? Why can't you just take the swearing part out and everyone can play? I just really like this game and I don't want my mom to look at it and say I can't play because a few people want to use language all the time...I have fun and I don't want to quit just yet.

I agree with Wolfson and DarkScarlett. Swearing has NOTHING to do with it. I don't want to swear in the game. I just want to be able to get one sentence across. I've had trouble recently trying to say "paranoid" and "got laid off", as in at work. Maybe paranoid was unnecessary, but we're making new friends in this game, and friends like to know what's going on with other friends' lives. I could have used a little sympathy when I got laid off, and it would have helped my friends understand why I've changed the hours I usually play pirates.

[Bonnylass64]

I am an adult and am not opposed to there being an "adult" server. But I for one don't go giving out my email addresses to people I'm talking with in an online game. How well do you know these guys anyway? I'm for more ability to have adult conversations and such, but I would not personally give out ID's and things like that unless it was to someone I knew in RL. Just my opinion.

[Angel O`bones]

I am a grandma and have children and granchildren who play,
I love the GAME and would really like the possibility of 18+ game. There are times I would like to chat with other adults and not have to be with the kids listening , not that I say anything they could not hear but just for the grown_up aspect of it.
If Disney listens I sure hope many many of us tell them our thoughts


Angel Wildpaine Founder 40
Angel O'bones Founder 30
Plus 6 more and 6 test

[akamystic]

Originally Posted by Silver Beard

What some of you are saying, like respelling things, was what turned another game I played into a nightmare. This is a E 10+ game, but do you hear Captain Jack swearing after school? Nope. I like this game and I just don't want it to go to waste because some people want to use language in the game just because their ship sunk...I mean, come on, your ship sinks and you swear, and then you go to jail and do it all over again? Why can't you just take the swearing part out and everyone can play? I just really like this game and I don't want my mom to look at it and say I can't play because a few people want to use language all the time...I have fun and I don't want to quit just yet.

I have zero interest in using profanity in the game. If I want to swear, I express it verbally or via inner monologue in the privacy of my home. No harm done. I don’t think the option of being able to type profanity should ever be considered as it is completely unnecessary in my opinion. Yes there are subjective things in the game however a line must be drawn at some point.

This is about not being able to carry on a normal conversation about daily events, favorite movie lines, etc. Whatever the topic might be it is extremely difficult to communicate the way the chat interface is currently setup. It is quite aggravating when someone has no clue what you are saying because they missed what you typed somewhere in the conversation. It doesn’t always tell you what was blocked. Sometimes I see what I typed but nobody else does. Other times I don’t see it and assume nobody else did. This can create some frustrating situations in chat sessions. It would be nice if there were other options available. I enjoy this game very much and will deal with the bugs and restrictions with the anticipation that improvements will be made. Feedback does make a difference.

Robert Darkskull
Pistols N Bladez

[MacIronhawk]

Originally Posted by akamystic

I have zero interest in using profanity in the game. If I want to swear, I express it verbally or via inner monologue in the privacy of my home. No harm done. I don’t think the option of being able to type profanity should ever be considered as it is completely unnecessary in my opinion. Yes there are subjective things in the game however a line must be drawn at some point.

Robert Darkskull
Pistols N Bladez

I agree.

I think chat could be changed a bit to fix those problems but I'll get back on topic.
An adult server...
The game was made for children not adults who want to talk about life. Profanity should never be used in a game what-so-ever.
If you mention an adult server to disney I doubt they'd give you any response.
The game was made for kids, adults can play it just the same, end of story.
It was really made for all age groups but not for what all age groups do.
If you want to use profanity, say it in your head. At least no one has to hear or read your horrible vocabulary.

[lilred]

The whole language filter issue does pose a real problem when communicating with our members but we have alot of different aged ppl playing and u cannot control what everybody is going to say and how they will say it. I like that alot of the foul lanuage has been removed, which doesn't belong there anyways but I do feel that they can loosen the reigns alittle on alot of the general conversations that take place during gameplay.

[Lib Feathers]

I wonder if there is some way they could incorporate that high-pitched ring tone into the adult servers. I cannot hear it, but it drives my underage daughter nuts. That would be one way to weed out the junior players.

[Soul Patch The Fiesty]

I would be ok with them requiring over the phone verification with a driver's license number, and card used to make account unlimited. I know that still wouldn't encompass all adults that play, but it would get a vast majority. And if parents were unlocking an adult server for their child, they would have to accept responsibility for whatever 'game change experiences' may occur. The person doing the verification would have to actually say a set list of major rules (such as 'cursing will not be filtered' 'this will enable the game to be played without censureship of D, etc. . . . )

I would be down for that, becuase I an adult with my own CC and I have a driver's license. I would think at least 90% of valid adults playing would. I would like to think more than 90%, but it is a D game, and I don't have the optimism about the general public that I used to.

[Leon Sharkshot]

I'm only teen but I'll support you guys getting your own server. It seems perfectly reasonable that you get your own space, although I'll have to sacrifice time with my guild members, who are adults. :-(

Well, at least I might have to. They're probably going to want to play on the 18+ servers so... there goes most of my game... but it's worth it.

At least I still have my quests and weapons to level up. Good luck with this..

[Dr. Zeppers]

The thing here is I would say is that Disney prides itself in telling parents that the content on thier site is kid safe. Parents want to be able to unleash thier children, without having to do what parents are supposed to do (monitoring thier childs activities). So Disney goes to no end to make it that way. Thier methods are obviously less than perfect, and quite aggravating when you start bringing in an older crowd of gamers.

Games like toontown, etc fit that genre, and thats great. They draw only the target audience (ie children) for the most part. Fitting the genre of a kids oriented game, in a kidsafe environment, excellent!!!

You start expanding into the pirate world (even the POTC movies were pg parental guidance) you have a genre that appeals to an audience of all ages, not primarily children.
How do you deal with this.

How do you make bloodthirsty pirates the game is built around... kid safe?

Question the description of "bloodthirsty"? Like Barbossa says in the first movie when Jack offers trying diplomacy... "Talk like that is what lost you the Pearl in the first place Jack. They'll be easier to search DEAD."


Yes, ive been told for example, you dont like it, there are many other pirate games out there.

Folks there are more POTC fans out there than you likely know, and they are not children. How many think that the POTC movies are responsible for fanship? Well in recent years perhaps, but not in my case. I grew up with Pirates of the Carribean. I've ridden the ride at DisneyLAND (not world) 100s of times since its opening at the park. Its one of the oldest rides in the park, and surprise!!! It has always been one of the MOST popular rides even before any POTC movie was even a thought process!

The first movie itself had several scenes taken directly from the original Disneyland ride! For example, the scene with jailed pirates trying to get the dog to bring them the key for example, has been a scene in the disneyland ride since it opened. The scene with Barbossa drinking rum as an undead... it streaming down his gullet (visibly).. taken from the ride. The idea of appearing skeletal with moonlight, was also derived from the ride, although it used 'lightning' as the light that showed the skeletons.

I knew that "Dead men tell no tales" long before any movie was produced, the jolly roger (skull crossbones) that appears top middle of POTCO has been at the start of the amusement park ride for years saying just that.

Its theme song? "Yo ho! YO HO! A pirates life for me" played throughout the ride, and sang by Captn Jack and Miss Swann on the beach of Rumrunners Isle (in the first movie). "I love that song" says Jack!

POTC has a place in my heart, and the movies adding a further storyline to the subject makes it just that much more my choice of pirates games. Either loosening things up for this game, or providing portals to 'adult oceans/servers' would ease alot of tension, and likely help to escalate revenues. It would also help serve those which have remained loyal fans for decades.

Zeppers lvl 40 - All mastered but lvl 21 cannons
Groggy McJones lvl 26 - All weapons quest/tp quest finished - avoiding story quest
http://pirates.teamofx.us

[DarkScarlett]

I had an idea the other night they signify basic from unlimited by name plate colors i think they should devise a way to signify 18+ and if the ones lie about age or someone illegally verifies that for them they should have the liabilty

for the last week i have had all sorts of friend request and turned them down imediatly because i had found that a few of the friends i have were children - talking about adult themes to me but because of my suspicion and thier actions i just boldly came out and asked - if they were adult..... i got a few um ok bye whispers and then some were actually honest

I explained i liked to play with my own age and not to take it personally but i pay to play how I want to................ then i had to deal with a bunch of drama on why i xed them from friends someone followed and hassled me for an hour........... CRIMANY..... HOLY HORMONE DEVELOPMENT, I EXPLAINED HEY IM JUST AN AVATAR .....now please leave me to my plundering

i just really think it would be helpfull for both age gruops alike to know who they should run with.

alas this prob will never happen, but from now on i may be known in some circles as the pirate who says " uh not to sound like a pirate snob but are you an adult?"

LOL at least that way it will be documented in those millions of GB of un monitored chat logs I made an effort, oh my spelling is horrible but im a little hot about the topic

[strathound]

Originally Posted by DarkScarlett

I had an idea the other night they signify basic from unlimited by name plate colors i think they should devise a way to signify 18+ and if the ones lie about age or someone illegally verifies that for them they should have the liabilty

for the last week i have had all sorts of friend request and turned them down imediatly because i had found that a few of the friends i have were children - talking about adult themes to me but because of my suspicion and thier actions i just boldly came out and asked - if they were adult..... i got a few um ok bye whispers and then some were actually honest.

No offense, but I think a lot of you are missing the point. Disney created this game to appeal to children that wouldn't find ToonTown very interesting. But they have to make these teens safe from online predators. Giving away the identity of the children in the game should be absolutely forbidden. The reason should be obvious. Everyone is so concerned about their own gameplay and their own wants that they are forgetting that there could be people within earshot that might not actually be there to play the game. They might be interested in something else.

I am a parent of two girls, both nine. We logon together and sail as a crew. They are sitting right next to me when the spamming of friend requests begins. Drives me absolutely crazy. I'm half tempted to make them create male characters.

There are lots of other online options out there if you like MMOs. But I would support having adult servers. Absolutely. So long as I know what they are, we can avoid those easily.

The challenge, of course, is identifying the adults. You may think this may be easy (someone suggested that Disney, lol, PHONE CALL every person and verify over the phone that they are an adult). But that's absolutely ridiculous and naive. If you think a teenager can't spoof that, you'll believe anything.

Unfortunately, I hate to say this, but the only way this will happen is if Disney agrees to spend lots of money on a special program to certify the age of specific players. And, they need to make sure that an adult account can't simply be logged into by a minor. That part may indeed be impossible. The good news is that the technology and know-how to do this is out there, just in a place you might not think of ... the online porn industry. They are required by law to verify the age of people entering their sites (don't ask me how I know this). I believe they do it by sending a $1.00 charge to a credit card in the registered member's name. Something like that.

Anyways, Disney, keep it safe. If I wanted to play an MMO with adults, I'd be playing World of Warcraft still.

Thanks,

Michael

[Lucrecia Merlose]

Originally Posted by strathound

No offense, but I think a lot of you are missing the point....

I think most of us understand this is a game aimed for the youth. Personally that is not what I am focusing in on. Keeping in mind children may access the adult server for whatever reason, the parents should be made aware of this. How?

1. Have child/parent accounts joined.
2. Lock the parent toons so kids cannot gain access.
3. Do not share YOUR account login information with your children
4. Disney makes an option for parent accounts to lock children from adult servers and/or gives an alert to parent account when child account accesses adult server.

If a child makes a seperate account solely for the purpose of getting into adult servers then the parent is not supervising the childerens computer time efficiently.

I'm a parent too but my child is 4 years old and his only interest on the computer is on my lap at the Noggin website. I do sympathize with your concerns but there are easy methods to use in order to satisfy both sides of this issue.

As for online predators...we deal with them now...we will deal with them on adult servers. The answer is proper supervision and computer gameplay in moderation.

Originally Posted by strathound

....Anyways, Disney, keep it safe. If I wanted to play an MMO with adults, I'd be playing World of Warcraft still.

I played WoW...I found it quite the task to find any adults...and if they all were adults they sure acted like loud mouthed teenagers. I never heard so much foul language, sexism, racism, and bigotry in an online game until I played WoW.

I for one am not wanting an adult server to condone such "WoW-esque" behavior but instead to offer an environment that feels very restricting to adults....giving out IM names, emails, or any identifying information. Not that I would do this with just anyone online...but perhaps if I persuade one of my longstanding MMO friends I do not wish to feel I must tiptoe around everything which I do not have to do in other MMOs.

That being said, the lack of an adult server would not make me leave POTCO...but it sure would be nice!

[DarkScarlett]

Originally Posted by strathound

No offense, but I think a lot of you are missing the point. Disney created this game to appeal to children that wouldn't find ToonTown very interesting. But they have to make these teens safe from online predators. Giving away the identity of the children in the game should be absolutely forbidden. The reason should be obvious. Everyone is so concerned about their own gameplay and their own wants that they are forgetting that there could be people within earshot that might not actually be there to play the game. They might be interested in something else.

I am a parent of two girls, both nine. We logon together and sail as a crew. They are sitting right next to me when the spamming of friend requests begins. Drives me absolutely crazy. I'm half tempted to make them create male characters.

There are lots of other online options out there if you like MMOs. But I would support having adult servers. Absolutely. So long as I know what they are, we can avoid those easily.

The challenge, of course, is identifying the adults. You may think this may be easy (someone suggested that Disney, lol, PHONE CALL every person and verify over the phone that they are an adult). But that's absolutely ridiculous and naive. If you think a teenager can't spoof that, you'll believe anything.

Unfortunately, I hate to say this, but the only way this will happen is if Disney agrees to spend lots of money on a special program to certify the age of specific players. And, they need to make sure that an adult account can't simply be logged into by a minor. That part may indeed be impossible. The good news is that the technology and know-how to do this is out there, just in a place you might not think of ... the online porn industry. They are required by law to verify the age of people entering their sites (don't ask me how I know this). I believe they do it by sending a $1.00 charge to a credit card in the registered member's name. Something like that.

Anyways, Disney, keep it safe. If I wanted to play an MMO with adults, I'd be playing World of Warcraft still.

Thanks,

Michael

i am also a parent and have been coaching my daughter about internet saftey for years that is a big problem with many parents that just dontn have the lines of communication or know how to educate them about and dont mistake mysuggestion as only for adults to be aware of children.... only a suggestion in programming this differation could also be used as a tool on whose chat logs should be monitired more closley speaking from a back end technical type suggestion nad yes it would make adult users aaware that they aare talking to a child not every flippin adult is a predetor...... i am sorry it got u heated....... i do however make sure toopenly ask age when befriending and can usually tell within minutes by the slang, general talk and behavour, thus far i have made friendships that i would like to take beyond the caribbean and feel unfortunate that certain things cannot be shared.... there are ways around it at angle , FOR ALL ASPECTS AND SUBJECT of this topic.... this is what i have found for myself 86% of the ppl i have meet are 30+ in age paying accounts who mostly allshare viewpoint of opting out of partaking in quest with the younger set. just an opinion and suggestion, i am glad u posted and i apprieciate yours