You kids need to STOP ABUSING SPEED GLITCHES in pvp.

[Big Bad Wolf]

hey james knocking the "hackers and people who glitch" out seems to be such a light punishment. I have no idea how that GM determines who cheats/glitch, he might KO innocent people lol. KO-ing them doesn't serve any purpose because they love getting the attention from a GM and will probably love it. (as was the case in Constance's role-playing event where people go into her house on purpose even knowing they would get KO-ed)

I like the discussion of this topic.

D has make it hard for to report speeders. Why? Speeders who cheat using 3rd party software can raise the defence of "legitimately" using Swift Foot, since the introduction of such Potion. Is there even a way to report them using the button? For bad behaviour? Doesn't seem to fall into the category. Wish there is a "Report Cheats"

When I come across pirates using macro, how can I report them for bad behaviour? D is just going to skim through their chat logs whenever such report was made.

I had an experience of reporting a player who couldn't die last year. A few reported him for bad behaviour and I took the effort to personally email D to describe our bad experience with that player. No suspension or ban was meted out to our disappointment.

D claims "we take these reports seriously and review each one."

I asked them how can a moderator review the misbehaving player's action from just the chat logs. and they replied

"This will instantly notify a Moderator that attention should be given to this account, and you can rest assured that we will fully investigate the situation."

Does that mean the Mod will personally and instantly give his attention to those being reported? If they do, I am sure they cant supervise the reports 24/7 especially in the middle of the night.

I just like to frustrately conclude that D can't do anything to cheater/glitcher/speeders because Chat Logs and Screenshots can't prove their violations unless they explicitly declare "I AM USING <program> LOLZ"

Hopefully they will research into Anti-Cheats, as i'm sure some games can detect it.

[Raikel]

Now that I think about it, maybe they should add a report button to report somebody speed hacking. That way Disney could look into the cases more effectively, and hopefully get rid of the players.

[seafox]

Aye,,,I sent em feedback a dozen times....and whoever said the people on POF don't get things...lol...only some don't get it...some of us have been around longer(thru multiple accounts and many pirates), and just know whats changed, and some know the tech thats available and being used...

Its a worthy discussion....and we all rant in forums sometimes...especially right after something happens that is the catalyst.

I keep a list of names....the good, the bad, and the ugly....its how I crew and how I pvp...

[tayseth]

Heres how an average game of PVP goes for me.

Average Mayhem

1. Wait for 10 minutes on the Abassa server for a game. (Normally it would take 3 minutes.)
2. Enter game.
3. Glitcher/hacker kills himself with siege charge.
4. Me: "Wow. Im not in the mood to play glitchers"
5. Said glitcher/hacker goes along attacking me with every weapon he can hold, using his dagger most because of its slow ability.
6. Glitcher/hacker seems to get a kick out of killing someone who isn't fighting back, and does so till game ends.
7. The Game.

PVP=Broken.

[william kid]

I don't Pvp much but I SvS all the time and its frustrating to have some speeder come along and round up all the bounty and port. I'm not sure what Big D can do about detecting the software but I hope they find a means soon and ban accounts. I play another game where Bots had become a problem it took sometime but they finally found a way to detect them and spent a month or so rounding up and building cases against the cheaters that had messed up the PvP in that game so bad. In one day they banned 3,700 accounts, not 3 days but permanent to the IP so no new accounts coming frm that comp and if you used 2 to play? both got the axe. They did it with flair also, Death rose from the ground and with a scyth cut the offender down in public view, the bodies fell to the ground burning never to be played again. The people came to forums like this and complained of how unfair it was and how they had lost friends and hours of work, my thought? it was unfair to everybody else when you cheated and messed up the game, good bye to bad rubbish.

So here is your notice if you cheat you are violating the user agreament and Big D can and will ( not if but when ) ban your account to the point you will never swing a cutlass again.

P.S. This isn't directed at anyone in person just speeders as a whole. Just in case the you and yours sounded to personal.

[Angel Daggerfury]

Originally Posted by tayseth

3. Glitcher/hacker kills himself with siege charge.

Speaking of which, anyone know how to spawn in pvp not invisible???? Every single pvp I've done since Spring/Summer 2009, I've spawned invisible & I have to kill myself or get killed so my avatar reloads on the screen, every single pvp except ONE like a month ago. Only method I've heard of is hitting Tab repeatedly during the loading screen that loads u into the pvp, that method has only successfully worked for me once, =( but for some ppl it works all the time.

[Tom SwordRage]

I undrerstand ur mad but its not always kids it could be adults who suck at mmogs and need to have the feeling of a acomplishment

and i took some offence from that
and i dont glitch in places involving other ppl

[Edward Edgemenace]

Originally Posted by tayseth

...
5. Said glitcher/hacker goes along attacking me with every weapon he can hold, using his dagger most because of its slow ability.
...

Just a sidenote: you do have your grenade passive skill "ignore pain" at rank 5 before going into PvP, don't you?

[Beorn]

Originally Posted by Tom SwordRage

and i took some offence from that
and i dont glitch in places involving other ppl

Careful what you say here. I'm pretty sure Big D does see this site. Saying you don't glitch around ppl is basically saying that you do glitch when you're off on your own. Whether it is around other pirates or solo, taking advantage of glitches of this nature is still cheating and against the TOU.

[The Skirata Clan]

All of the things said are reasons why I stopped PvP and SvS. Glitches and player-player complaints are things that have no room in my play time.

I don't see how POF members are in favor of any kind of glitching, as mentioned by someone. If that was the case the thread would have been deleted a long time ago. I have many friends here and none, to my knowledge, like glitches. Specially in PvP or SvS. I saw no post trying to block your point. If anything they all agree, including myself. They are just saying that the glitchers are of all ages.

I hope that they can have better in-game quality control. And that IP ban sounds great to me. That would prevent multiple accounts by the same person after he/she gets a ban.

I do take offense when someone says that "the broad majority" in POF are dumb or blind to an issue.

[Edward Edgemenace]

I can understand someone taking offense, if in fact they do represent "the broad majority" of POF. But not if they don't.

I can understand that same person rewording things to sound offensive ("dumb"/"blind") where simple statements of fact originally were.

On this thread alone, only 1 respondent indicated understanding of the difference between glitching and hacking, while about 18 posts made little or no distinction between glitching (OK with Disney) and hacking (not OK with Disney), which, to me, confirms the fact that "the broad majority of people here don't understand the difference".

Glitches are added by Disney, apparently intentionally (usually as "Easter eggs.") Third-party tools used to hack the game, are not.

[The Skirata Clan]

First off, mate. I take offense because the broad majority are my friends. They are people that I respect and play with. I have taken the time to know that broad majority.

If I reworded was because that is what the post I was making reference to said. Just nicely.

And for your information, using glitches to take advantage of the game in any way shape or form is also not OK with Disney. Other threads on the subject have been made. Feel free to browse. That to me indicates that you have joined that "broad majority".

Saying that Disney adds glitches for fun with no proof is indeed ridiculous. And glitches must be reported to Disney Testers know this. It's their responsibility.

[Edward Edgemenace]

The fact remains, that you took offense to a statement of fact. I understand, irrational people can take offense at anything. It is tough to admit you are wrong, especially when you are.

Disney promotes their game with clear admission of Easter eggs. Where THEY draw the line, is extraordinarily clear in their TOS and TOU.

http://piratesonline.go.com/#/help/g..._policies.html

http://piratesonline.go.com/#/help/faq_03.html#16

Or how about at http://piratesonline.go.com/#/game_i...e_life_01.html where, indeed, it says "...cheating will be encouraged which is very Jack Sparrow-like." That is, cheating within the context of the game.

I report glitches, particularly ones I find on test. Some (if not most) have gone years without being addressed. Some, instead of being fixed, are surreptitiously condoned (such as adding potions to the game that mimic the same effects.)

By your repeated personal attacks (against my general statements of fact) you do indeed implicate yourself, as one among those trying intentionally to obfuscate the issues. Shame on you.

Regardless, the fact remains that the broad majority here on POF either do not know the difference, or intentionally try to confuse the two.

[Captain Del]

Are we honestly going in an arguement over what is and what isn't considered glitching and hacking?

If you take advantage of the game for your own benefit, which may in turn affect the game if possible, then you can say its wrong, by any means. If you use harmless glitches to entertain yourself, like the Empty KH glitch (which is going to be done away with now that the gate at Kingshead on Test is open instead of a door,) then there shouldn't be a problem. Either way, cheating is cheating.

Or how about at http://piratesonline.go.com/#/game_i...e_life_01.html where, indeed, it says "...cheating will be encouraged which is very Jack Sparrow-like." That is, cheating within the context of the game.

Yes, cheating in card games, which is card swapping. This has nothing else to do with cheating that was not intended by Disney, and therefore, can be accepted.

Regardless, the fact remains that the broad majority here on POF either do not know the difference, or intentionally try to confuse the two.

Again, does it make a difference? Not everybody is somebody who knows every single side of the technicalities of PotCO, including myself in a 100% complete sense. They are simply trying to express their opinion, that glitchers/hackers in PvP, or as I like to call, cheaters, should be punished.

Back on to the main topic - bottom line, using any means, whether naturally created without the intention of Disney in the game, or by outside means, should be discouraged. And I get what he is trying to say when he means "kids." Hes not necessarily saying only young ones are the cheaters, but instead, cheaters, of all ages, are "kids," or by a better word, "immature."

[Captain Sureshot]

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace

...the broad majority of people here...

lol, where are you getting this whole "broad majority" information from? Is this some statement of fact? Where are you getting your facts from regarding what POF members think, feel, or understand. I would love to look over this information. Sounds to me like you are just making it up.