Ship Battles and Cowardice

[Arioch]

Now with that being said those light sloops that have high scores sailing solo for long periods of time and even sinking from time to time and firing ammo that never ever runs out?

Those little cheats are glitching no doubt about it as ammo only last so long

there is no way a solo light sloop firing fury or lightning can get large score for hours without more ammo.

Even if they board a ship that is someone else's in order to resupply it is still cheating.

[thefadedrose]

Okay, one more input on this subject of cowardice. Tonight I went out to svs solo and I chased down a ship and just used my broadsides to take him down. I sailed my ship to another area because I had to repair and I knew they would be looking for me and their bounty. I went to repair and I couldn't. I tried pulling weapons and shooting the cannons but to no avail. This has happened before and my Captain always had me to tp off and then back on which always works but with me being the Captain I was unable to do so. All I had left to do was either go back and be taken down or port! I chose port! Sorry was trying to keep my points on quest (sail without sinking) so not everyone that ports is a coward. Some may be questing or some may have a problem like I did tonight. Kani of Spartan Ellite

[Edward Edgemenace]

When you first launch, check for green repair circles. If you don't have them, land immediately and relaunch. (This glitch was added when they "fixed" repair-on-the-run poorly.)

[Arioch]

Originally Posted by thefadedrose

Okay, one more input on this subject of cowardice. Tonight I went out to svs solo and I chased down a ship and just used my broadsides to take him down. I sailed my ship to another area because I had to repair and I knew they would be looking for me and their bounty. I went to repair and I couldn't. I tried pulling weapons and shooting the cannons but to no avail. This has happened before and my Captain always had me to tp off and then back on which always works but with me being the Captain I was unable to do so. All I had left to do was either go back and be taken down or port! I chose port! Sorry was trying to keep my points on quest (sail without sinking) so not everyone that ports is a coward. Some may be questing or some may have a problem like I did tonight. Kani of Spartan Ellite

There is a workaround for this and I placed it in barnacles and glitches titled:

Cannot repair glitch in privateering...workaround

Do not know if I can link to the page or not but ill try. if it does not work go there manually and read the solution and follow it to the letter and you will NEVER ever be stuck on your ship as captain and not be able to repair.

http://www.piratesonlineforums.com/f...ead.php?t=9442

[Jack Sharkbane]

Ok, I've read enough, here. Last time I checked, I'm a PIRATE. last time I checked, We're ALL Pirates. and Last time I checked, Pirates are cheaters. Pirates are spies. Pirates want to live, and will do anything to do it in pleasure. Pirates can do anything they want because they HAVE NO MORAL. THEY HAVE NO ETHICS. of course, theres always the pirate code...............

[Edward Edgemenace]

The point of the pirate's code, is that you don't cheat other pirates. So stop.

When I SvS and have to leave, I sail to the enemy island to get sunk one last time (to leave the bounty in the game) then drop anchor once back at my base island. But not if my opponents were obviously cheating (one-hit-wonder/leapfrogging/lag-bombing/infinite-ammo.) If there is a ship out there that provided particularly good (and fair) battles, I'll seek them out and say good night as they sink me that last time.

Again, nothing inherently wrong with spying, but everything imaginable wrong with sabotage. Board other's ships to find their position? Clever. Board other's ships to fire at navy/EITC/skeleton ships or to steal wheel to prevent repairs? Reprehensible. Do I click REPORT on such people? You bet. But the next day they are back with another throw-away level 8 pirate. I don't know about you, but seeing that, makes me play SvS a lot less.

[Sven Osymthe]

I agree with Ed, cheating isn't called for. Ingame he was telling me how sometimes its not the other crews fault. I can understand if the other crew isn't doing anything and its just the game its self......but when it is on purpose thats just sad. Sure everyone wants to win and may not like sinking....but to cheat just to get a win? really.

This is one of the reasons I don't SvS often even though I am good at it.....its hard to find people who play fair anymore.

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and to comment on the original post which I don't believe I have....

* Leaving SvS waters to make repairs

How is someone being a child because of this?? Anyone whos good at SvS or has common sense knows NOT to stay in the middle of a battle while your damaged.

* Leaving SvS waters because someone is pursuing you

A despicable coward? If your running from somebody, yes, I agree it is annoying but it isn't cheating. The person isn't using any glitch they are simply trying to keep their score or plunder....don't we all?

* Leaving SvS waters and returning to ambush people with high bounties

Little better than garbage? Ok, I agree that this may not seem "fair" but it is smart if your just out their for bounties. Sure you may not be fighting until the enemy least expects it, but if your not gonna glitch I really see no problem in this.

* Leaving SvS waters altogether

This doesn't say somebody is a coward unless they decide to not return to the battle at all. This does get annoying but you also have to realize....some people doing this could be new to the game and not really know whats going on. I have seen plenty of times that a basic pirate would launch then head off to another area.

* Continuously seeking "revenge" against someone who sank you

Its common sense to attack the ship that has the highest bounty or looks to be a challenge to you. You want to sink someone who sank you? thats really your choice in the end. Now if this revenge involves glitching.....I agree you DO need to grow up, if not, its fair game.

* Using spies
Get a life. For your own health - get a life.

Spies are uncalled for. But also its sorta the captain of the ships fault too. If the captain makes it so ONLY HIS/HER CREW can board then you wouldn't have spies on the ship would you? If the person thats spying launches a ship from your island to listen to the privateer chat......obviously switch to CREW chat.

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I admit I do get tired of some of this, but in the end it is just tactics that anybody could use to win. The only CHEATING in SvS is when somebody CHOOSES to GLITCH.

and just a note.....I have tried to avoid reading this so if there were any changes made by the poster, I am just commenting on the original post.

[Pirate Bood]

How did this pop up again? Sounds like some serious sour grapes to me! My answer is still the same as it was the last time I responded, over two weeks ago ...

''huh, hello ? There are designated borders? Borders that mean we can only play in certain ' waters' ?

Now I know u r kiddin!

Long have all of us that svs regularly wanted servers for just svs so we dont encounter normal ships n npc ships and because most importantly it would combat lag.
Since no such thing exists then the whole map is fair game, and the chase adds to the thrill.
Pity u cant complain to the capt of that man o war flag that keeps meandering into play just off avaricia cos he sure left his ' waters '!

Really I cant believe u are complaining about that, there are cheats n glitchers who do deserve your frown but 'leaving of SvS waters' ... Puleease!

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Yet Im gonna add more... In a football game if the guy who keeps runnin with the ball n scoring goals is a problem for the other team - and he surely is, cos his goals mean that they are losing, they tackle him, avoid passing near him and change tactic to acheive their mission.... which is to get the top score, this is known as 'the game'...... Likewise, getting the score and the bounty in svs and keeping hold of it for as long as ya can is the game of svs.
The 'pitch' is the WHOLE map, the first and last disney allocated border you bump into is the edge of the map.
Regarding the bounty: if u got it giggle n run, cos if u dont its gonna be like a rugby tackle to get it off you. And everyone knows we sink n get sunk, thats also part of the game.
If u are playing a tactical game use the example of our pirate forefathers and go see where the ones with the bounty are at.
This may make no sense to u since yer mind is made up but some people... I mean MOST people, lag in an area of high activity so they use their brains n stay out of it, thus skirting the action, this is a cool tactic as your gunners with lightning get to shoot off sails!! (hopefully you dont think thats dispicable behaviour).
And NOO one this side of forever is nuts enough to drop anchor in the thick of it and repair.... if that is yer thinkin dont even bother tryin to repair just drive right in and let some one sink you cos the end result is the same (and no wonder you are so disgruntled by the whole game of svs!)
It does however become tiresome when people get all glitchy an verbally abusive, but constant attacks at the same team is also part of the game if you find fair competition then its fair game to sink em. If however, u dont like any of the above .... DONT PLAY.

Really did you think other players were going to politely comply with your wishes and hand the bounty to you on a plate, then quietly sail away, end of story?

[Sven Osymthe]

Originally Posted by Pirate Bood

How did this pop up again? Sounds like some serious sour grapes to me! My answer is still the same as it was the last time I responded, over two weeks ago ...

huh, hello ? There are designated borders? Borders that mean we can only play in certain ' waters' ?

Now I know u r kiddin!

Long have all of us that svs regularly wanted servers for just svs so we dont encounter normal ships n npc ships and because most importantly it would combat lag.
Since no such thing exists then the whole map is fair game, and the chase adds to the thrill.
Pity u cant complain to the capt of that man o war flag that keeps meandering into play just off avaricia cos he sure left his ' waters '!

Really I cant believe u are complaining about that, there are cheats n glitchers who do deserve your frown but 'leaving of SvS waters' ... Puleease!

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Yet Im gonna add more... In a football game if the guy who keeps runnin with the ball n scoring goals is a problem for the other team - and he surely is, cos his goals mean that they are losing, they tackle him avoid passing near him n change tactic to acheive their mission.... which is to get the top score, this is known as 'the game'...... Likewise, getting the score and the bounty in svs and keeping hold of it for as long as ya can is the game of svs.
The 'pitch' is the WHOLE map, the first and last disney allocated border you bump into is the edge of the map.
Regarding the bounty: if u got it giggle n run, cos if u dont its gonna be like a rugby tackle to get it off you. And everyone knows we sink n get sunk, thats also part of the game.
If u are playing a tactical game use the example of our pirate forefathers and go see where the ones with the bounty are at.
This may make no sense to u since yer mind is made up but some people... I mean MOST people, lag in an area of high activity so they use their brains n stay out of it, thus skirting the action, this is a cool tactic as your gunners with lightning get to shoot off sails!! (hopefully you dont think thats dispicable behaviour).
And NOO one this side of forever is nuts enough to drop anchor in the thick of it and repair.... if that is yer thinkin dont even bother tryin to repair just drive right in and let some one sink you cos the end result is the same (and no wonder you are so disgruntled by the whole game of svs!)
It does however become tiresome when people get all glitchy an verbally abusive, but constant attacks at the same team is also part of the game if you find fair competition then its fair game to sink em. If however, u dont like any of the above .... DONT PLAY.

Really did you think other players were going to politely comply with your wishes and hand the bounty to you on a plate, then quietly sail away, end of story?

You know.....I couldn't agree more. You need to change your tactics if someone is doing to good for you, it is more fun to not be limited to the space between the islands (you aren't limited anyway....last I checked there is NO border), you need to play smart (avoid going into crowded areas if your outmatched or are having bad lag), and most importantly......who wouldn't put up a fight for the score and bounty they worked hard to obtain? at first when I read this it sounded like the person was mad that they couldn't take the other players bounty or score away. If I am SvSing and I have a high bounty or score......I know the others will come after me. In the end the pirate with the better tactics will pull off the victory. Call these tactics annoying, cowardly, or whatever else.....as long as the person isn't glitching theres NOTHING stopping them from doing so.

[MacIronhawk]

Besides revenge and spies most of these are things people will do for the two tattoo quests. They're too afraid to lose that 50k points without sinking.

[ilikepurpleyogurt]

Seriously, I haven't played much in pvp but I agree completely!

[Arioch]

It's a pirates life in SVS and the captain has the responsibility to both ship and crew to keep em safe and get them loot.

Scuttling the ship at the end of play? That is not in the code and if that be your playing method then good luck.

Glitches and people who use them are not only cowards they should be reported and banned by Disney.

For the people who run with high bounties? Chase em down and fire on them so they cannot port with the loot.
If they log out that is cowardice but if they port because you were either to slow to prevent them or sink them then don't blame them get crew with a better aim or invest in faster sailing skills.

Ships do not magically get away you simply fail to catch them and sink them. And I've said it before many a time if you chase a ship to get back your loot because they sunk ya don't brand them as a coward because they sunk you already and unlike you they did not stick around to have the same thing happen to them.

Too many pirates who are level 40 and svs all the time have starting bounties of only 15 - 20 gold and brag about how good they are? If they play that much and their initial bounty is only 20 gold it is a clear indication that they spend more time sinking then staying afloat.

[davy redflint]

i be not a coward but a smart pirate always fight to live ...........if running make u survive then ........call me what ever...........i call it smart.......one thing this is just agame so u can play it how ever u want........it not like u lose any thing when sinkin or diein but ...all me pirates have a low diein rate...

[Edward Edgemenace]

Originally Posted by Arioch

Too many pirates who are level 40 and svs all the time have starting bounties of only 15 - 20 gold and brag about how good they are? If they play that much and their initial bounty is only 20 gold it is a clear indication that they spend more time sinking then staying afloat.

You are 100% incorrect. Pirates that don't have high starting bounty are considerate people that leave the bounty in-game when they leave. Are you saying you can't understand even that?

If you steal bounty, then come right back into SvS, guess what? Your targets are all low-value. If you give away your bounty before you port, then come back, you have at least one easy target when you return.

Don't you remember the official SvS tournament? The PRIMARY tactic to quickly pump up score initially, was to TRADE bounty back and forth directly, 1 for 1. Two ships from one guild, launching from French and Spanish, would meet somewhere where the other 18 ships couldn't interfere much. Then they would race to their other meeting point to sink the other ship, then race back to their first quiet spot and trade bounty again...and again...and again.

If you are foolish enough to steal bounty, you deserve the painfully-slow, minuscule bounties you get.

[Arioch]

Originally Posted by Edward Edgemenace

You are 100% incorrect. Pirates that don't have high starting bounty are considerate people that leave the bounty in-game when they leave. Are you saying you can't understand even that?

If you steal bounty, then come right back into SvS, guess what? Your targets are all low-value. If you give away your bounty before you port, then come back, you have at least one easy target when you return.

Don't you remember the official SvS tournament? The PRIMARY tactic to quickly pump up score initially, was to TRADE bounty back and forth directly, 1 for 1. Two ships from one guild, launching from French and Spanish, would meet somewhere where the other 18 ships couldn't interfere much. Then they would race to their other meeting point to sink the other ship, then race back to their first quiet spot and trade bounty again...and again...and again.

If you are foolish enough to steal bounty, you deserve the painfully-slow, minuscule bounties you get.

??? What you are talking about and I have seen it done is artificially inflating your kill score by cheating (YES CHEATING) if you have another ship on the other side and both sides sink each other to inflate their value and bounty that is just plain dirty under handed and cheating as you did not get the bounty by fighting tooth and nail you got it by surrendering your ship to the icy depths every other turn.

How does that it any way shape or form make either crew a formidable opponent?
The purpose of the game in SVS is to sink opposing ships the bounty is an incentive and simply that. My bounty is not artificially inflated by using guinea pig enemy ships to inflate my worth. A lot of the ships that attain high bounties did not EARN them so much as trade them ship to ship.

No in no way shape or form does ANYONE get my bounty unless they chase me to the ends of the earth pry it from my dead fingers and suffer the wrath of my undead spirit coming back from the grave for revenge. I be a pirate and swapping gold like some kids swapping lunch in the playground is not to my liking.

When I retire from SVS my GOLD goes with me. Let others earn their own gold I sponsor no handouts.

Giving away gold LOL that's a real funny one.