Coin flip ban

[StellaInTheSky]

How totally odd...I personally have never witnessed anyone doing so-called abusing of this emote but I'm sure people can think up creative things. Beyond me as to what they would be, but interesting that the emote is being abused enough to be taken away.

Never realized there were two different stances, Crim. Thanks for pointing that out...

[Crim]

Oh, when it was explained to me and seeing that there was in fact two stances I was assuming they were just taking out the regular "flips a coin" rather than both. Well, like the tides, apparently we all have to adapt to Disney's unorthodox approach to handling its players..

[Captain Jason]

THAT'S what you meant! Thanks for clearing that up Davy. Kinda disappoining though.

[CaptainMonkeys]

Originally Posted by Kraken Guard

They might as well take out the primp emote as well, because that does the exact same thing(If worse).. But that stinks! They should at least do some tweaking on it!

If they do that I won't play - because I spend most of my time standing around primping all the time.

[Tiberius Fireskull]

Ok guys, this is a really, really desperate hope, but maaaybe, just maybe, this would work. We could try mass emailing Disney, telling them to keep the coin emote. I mean, it's desperate, yes, but its worth a try isn't it? Maybe while we're at it we can have them put /kneel back in too?

[SEAKING23]

I will e-mail them right now.

[muffin pirate]

First, how is it getting abused? And second, I think we should ask Live Chat dudes about the sudden bans and knock outs.. If it isn't realated to a glitch we would just say we thought it was one...

[Crim]

I agree with Davy, we're all - well most of us - are paying $10 a month to have the features we enjoy being taken away because of a few people. They should be fixing these things rather than deleting them, our subscription is their paycheck

[Tiberius Fireskull]

Just gave them a long email... it sounded kinda ranty, which I didn't like, but anyway, I hope that it will make them reconsider. Guys, here's a tip. Don't just tell them "Removing the coin flipping emote will make some players upset." Make sure that you connect it to them, and say why thats bad for them. For example, instead of saying what I said before, say something like this. "If you remove the coin flipping emote, some players may get very mad about this, and some may even leave the game. Many of these people would be your paying customers. If you let them leave, you will be losing money, which is bad for you. If you keep this emote, you can keep your customers."

Really, if you bring that in, it should nail them.

[Captain Jason]

We should also tell them about personal space and kneel, kneel was fun while it lasted, kinda like a bow type of thing. If we say that they should bring back personal space, we should say how it could fix the whole coin flip problem.

[WilliamThunderblade]

Only thing I can comment about Disney's irrationality in handling this situation is this: JOB SECURITY.
Instead of wasting your time banning immature brats (and even banning innocent players, all because of your misguided arrogance) who can't respect the establishment of decency on the game, it would best BEHOOVE (benefit) you [Disney] if you paid more attention to the players who actually have some sense, respect your rules, and PAY YOU to make the game better... We don't pay you to sit at a computer chair waiting to ban the next person you see flipping a coin on Abassa, nor do we pay you to remove cherished features like the flipping the coin emote all because a few idiots can't get over themselves. We pay you to make the game better, not worse/annoying, so starting doing something that actually promotes PROGRESS for the game, NOT REGRESS.

[WitchdoctorDan]

Originally Posted by Jamesvsthekraken

when they did not mention it on their website or in their rules of using /coin.

Originally Posted by Disney's Pirate Code

Oh yeah, and don't flip coins. It's in there, and we made it, but we will ban you for doing it.

That would be HILARIOUS!

But on a more serious note, I would send them angry e-mails. Don't ban me for doing something in a responsible manner, just go ahead and take it out. BOTH ways out seem utterly ridiculous.

[Jamesvsthekraken]

Well... I talked to Live Chat about this and this is what they said to me:
Hamed: Greetings, how are you doing today Matey?
Me: Hi, I'm a bit upset at the game right now. How about yourself???
Hamed: I am doing great actually! Thank you for asking. I understand you are upset regarding the Coin toss emote?
Me: Yes you guys removed it.
Hamed: I am sorry you feel that way. I will be happy to pass you point of view along to our product team for you. In the future you are also able to submit your suggestions directly to them via an email to [email protected].
Hamed: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Me: No mate you don't seem to be seeing my point, you guys have upset the entire game, but removing the flip a coin animation. Not only are you taking away people's favorite emote but players are paying $10 a month or more and you guys take it away?
Hamed: I will pass your feedback along. However this was done for a reason to avoid any sort of abuse of the emote and for the safety of our younger pirates in the game.
Hamed: You are more than welcome to voice your dismay about this matter via an email to the address I have provided for you.
Hamed: If there is no other issue you need help with I will end this chat now.
Me: No one i know is abusing the emote mate. Also people were probably doing that because you guys let players go threw other players -.-
Hamed: I thank you again for sharing your point of view with us and for visiting me in Live Chat.
Me: -_-
Hamed: You have a great day and smooth sailing to you.

[Tiberius Fireskull]

That guy really didn't want to talk about it. James, I really wouldn't be surprised if you were the 100th person that guy had to deal with that day regarding the incident. I had no better luck with my email I sent them. They seem to be avoiding an actual answer... Below is the email I sent. After that I will post the reply. Sorry for the messy looking email. I really don't want to have to format it.

Hello POTCO team. I am emailing concerning
> something that you are getting rid of in this game. Something that me,
> and many other players (I have actually asked them, and they agree with
> me) believe is something that is a simple yet important part of this
> game. The coin flipping emote. Once you release the new clothing
> merchants on the main islands, the coin flip emote will be removed. The
> coin flip is one of the most loved emotes among players. Getting rid of
> it is going to not just deprive many, if not most, players of their
> favorite emote. On the extreme end, some players may even leave the game
> because of this, depriving YOU of your customers, many of whom are
> paying money for this game.
>
> Yes, I do understand that the coin flipping emote can be used
> inappropriately; however, this does NOT mean that you should get rid of
> it. Getting rid of it is a very bad choice on your part. Instead of
> getting rid of it, change the way it works. Perhaps make it so that the
> hand "bounces" less when it grabs and tosses the coin. This would allow
> players to keep the emote, and it would make it so it cannot be used
> inappropriately. Not doing this is neglectful on your part. If you
> simply get rid of it, you are not doing your job of pleasing your
> customers, and it in turn will cause many to stop paying money for the
> game.
>
> I highly urge you to keep this emote in the game, for the player's sake.
> Getting rid of it will make a lot of players upset, and I know that is
> not what you want. Just change the animation so that it cannot be used
> badly.
>
> And yes, I do know that the "Joe the Pirate flips a coin... heads." will
> still appear in the chat box, but this is not important. It is the
> actual animation that matters. Please do not get rid of this emote. It
> will not end well with players.
>
> Please forgive me if I sound like I am attacking you, I am not. I am
> merely trying to persuade you to keep this part of the game instead of
> trashing it.
>
> Also, I have seen people getting knocked out and supposedly banned on
> the "Abassa" server for flipping a coin, and not doing anything
> inappropriate with it. If this is so, then that is unfair and harsh on
> your part. If you are going to get rid of it, which I hope that you will
> not, then at least let us use it while it lasts.
>
> Again, I am not trying to attack you nor complain, just pointing out
> things that I feel are in the player's and your best interest.
>
> I will not take any more of your time. Thank you in advance.


Reply:

Ahoy <Insert Name>,

Thank you for contacting Pirates of the Caribbean Online.

We appreciate your extensive feedback on the coin flipping emote. We are always pleased to hear from our Guests and welcome your comments, as we are constantly balancing and making enhancements to the game to make Pirates Online a fun and safe place to play online.

Again, we appreciate your comments, and look forward to seeing you in the Caribbean again soon!

<Insert Name>
Pirates of the Caribbean Online Member Services

Such a personalized response eh<sarcmark>

By the way guys, when you are posting emails or live chats, keep the worker's name anonymous. Even they deserve to have privacy.

[Captain Jason]

Mind if I just copy and past that Email? I might be able to send a link to this forum page too, if you guys want me to.