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Old 12-13-2010, 10:59 PM
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If it wasn't for the price, potbs would be a descent game.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:46 AM
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We do not need to be hostile here to anybody. If anybody is getting upset about this thread then also feel free to not read it or reply. Let's apply our "rules" equally.

That being said, while this is indeed a POTCO board, this is the Other Games subforum. While the OP may have become a bit hostile, the responses in themselves have also been hostile. If we are going to ask people to behave a particular way, then let's live up to that same standard.

As to the OP, the two games are different and address different gameplay styles. POTCO has free play as well as paid subscription, true. However, POTBS has recently moved to free to play and free players are not nearly as limited to lower levels as they are in POTCO.

POTBS is a very in-depth game with a steep learning curve. POTCO is simple to play right out of the box. My favorite thing is that in POTBS, people claim that POTCO is a kids' game, but the people in POTCO act far more maturely than in POTBS. You think you've seen griefing in POTCO? You haven't seen anything.

You see, Disney cares about an enjoyable gaming experience for all, to include the younger players. POTBS is no place for the youngsters. Bad language, racist comments, and general poor sportsmanship abound.

If you want to get some experience in another Pirate MMORPG, try POTBS--it is free and can be entertaining, depending upon what you are looking for. However, don't try to compare the two games--they are completely different experiences. Which one is better depends upon what you enjoy doing.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:51 AM
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We do not need to be hostile here to anybody. If anybody is getting upset about this thread then also feel free to not read it or reply. Let's apply our "rules" equally.

That being said, while this is indeed a POTCO board, this is the Other Games subforum. While the OP may have become a bit hostile, the responses in themselves have also been hostile. If we are going to ask people to behave a particular way, then let's live up to that same standard.

As to the OP, the two games are different and address different gameplay styles. POTCO has free play as well as paid subscription, true. However, POTBS has recently moved to free to play and free players are not nearly as limited to lower levels as they are in POTCO.

POTBS is a very in-depth game with a steep learning curve. POTCO is simple to play right out of the box. My favorite thing is that in POTBS, people claim that POTCO is a kids' game, but the people in POTCO act far more maturely than in POTBS. You think you've seen griefing in POTCO? You haven't seen anything.

You see, Disney cares about an enjoyable gaming experience for all, to include the younger players. POTBS is no place for the youngsters. Bad language, racist comments, and general poor sportsmanship abound.

If you want to get some experience in another Pirate MMORPG, try POTBS--it is free and can be entertaining, depending upon what you are looking for. However, don't try to compare the two games--they are completely different experiences. Which one is better depends upon what you enjoy doing.
Well said Bart. Basically comparing POTBS and POTCO is like comparing COD and Halo. Both are shooters, but one is Modern and the other is Futuristic. One addresses one audience and the other addresses another.
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Old 12-14-2010, 05:46 AM
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Bart. Not much to say to what you said, but you nailed it right there. The two games are directed to different audiences, and really should not be compared down to details like that.

And Swash, I'll say that your COD/Halo analogy was a pretty good analogy for us that haven't played POTBS.
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Old 12-14-2010, 05:54 AM
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And Swash, I'll say that your COD/Halo analogy was a pretty good analogy for us that haven't played POTBS.
I don't think Halo/COD players are this vicious to each other though LOL. At least not that I've noticed.
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:49 PM
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I don't think Halo/COD players are this vicious to each other though LOL. At least not that I've noticed.
Ever brought up COD amongst a bunch of Halo fanboys in a Halo Xbox Live Party? They're even more.


And, yeah, I'm gonna go back to the free thing POTBS set up as a secondary game. I played before this was ever thought of and had no idea it existed. :P
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:47 PM
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This whole thing is a bit too complicated for me.

Despite the fact that I think PotCo is quite nice and has a generally appealing crowd to me, PotBS has somethings which I'd really like to see in PotCo.

Honestly, if I had to bring it up, it would take us back to the whole E10+ and E13+ debate. If PotCo had that huge complicated economy or long-lasting battles, I'd love it. But then, I doubt the kids who join this game would (due to immense complexities)

But PotCo DOES have to concentrate on its adult audience (I'm somewhere in-between). Of course, the films are directed towards people above the age of 13. So why does PotCo focus on the children playing it? Can't they look at Armada of the Damned? THAT game was from THIS series, and yet it seemed to have things that would appeal the adult audiences.

Coming back to the economy... I feel that if we had something complex... then probably things won't dry up so fast. If the battles were longer and the income attained from them higher, income from land lower and enemies made tougher (not too sure about this), and income from SKILLS (and quests and jobs) made higher, then that would do. I mean, if we id end up having Trading, the monetary transactions would enable us to reach 200,000 in a giffy. So reduce a few things and increase some. Because if we were enabled to build things out of items found and skills available, we can easily just sell them off.

That's what I would like to see of an economic change. But generally speaking, PotCo must have a larger workforce, and more of a drive to be a separate MMO than relying on the fact that it's part of Big D. It should be more competitive to other games in the same streams, like Runescape and PotBS. The updates definitely should be maximized by A LOT. If anything, I hope the release of On Stranger Tides boosts the thought of this game being utilized as an appropriate marketing tool for the series (Look at LotRo and SW:Old Republic!)

Just saying',
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:23 PM
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I tried playing POTBS and got extremely confused. Plus, it was lagging majorly but that was somewhat due to my old computer.
I know POTCO can be confusing to new members, but nothing like POTBS. While POTBS has lots more things to do and customize it seems, I definitely have to go with POTCO!
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:54 PM
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Pirates of the Burning Sea has just gone F2P so now let's compare how this game matches up with POTBS.

POTBS:
+100 different ships + user content such as flags and ships
+100 missions
+Many Ports
+Player Controlled Economy
+Port Governors Player Voted
+Massive Player Customization
+Vast Open Sea
+Conquerable Ports
+Big community/loyal fanbase
-Partial lag
-Fewer servers
-Big learning curve

POTCO:
-Unlimited vs Basic
-Must pay to access higher ships and majority of missions
-Repetitive missions
-3 ships types (Sloop, Frigate, and Galleon)
-Some clothing and weapons restricted to Unlimited members
-Unlimited can use 99% of game
-Basic has maybe 1% of basic game access
-Lack of content/expansions
-Smaller community/close fanbase


So, who wins in this battle? The P2P disguised as a F2P or the P2P who went F2P?
You Left out so many stuff on POTCO- and i agree that it depends on player and every opinion would be bias.

-Unlimited vs Basic
-Must pay to access higher ships and majority of missions
-Repetitive missions
-3 ships types (Sloop, Frigate, and Galleon)
-Some clothing and weapons restricted to Unlimited members
-Unlimited can use 90% of game
-Basic has maybe 10% of basic game access
-Lack of content/expansions
-Smaller community/close fanbase
+Privateering- Pirate vs pirate ship battles
+PvP - Pirate vs pirate land battles in groups or alone
+300+ different weapons
+many different enemy's on land and sea- Skeletons, Navy, EITC, Ghost, Davy Jones servants (each with more categories under)
+Card games
+Different treasures and loot
+Mini games-cannon defense and repair
+Different islands, caves and jungles
+Less than 1 gb required


I haven't player other game so i'm not gonna say which is better but i have to say that you didnt include a lot on what you said about POTCO

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Old 12-29-2010, 10:35 PM
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Well put Leo. There are probably more, many more, but I can't name any off the top of my head.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:48 PM
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I agree with Midhav that a complex economy would enhance the game.

And it wouldn't have to be complex in a sense that it would be confusing to kids, either. In fact, it could be considered a good learning experience if POTCO set it up the right way.

Here's how I think it could go. It would start off with banks, and pirates can use them to store massive amounts of money. At first only 1,000,000, and then later on you pay the bank 200,000 to upgrade it to 2,000,000. It may not seem realistic, but anyways, 300,000 to store 3,000,000 and so on, until you reach the limit of 500,000,000. Now, yes, I understand that may seem like a lot, but remember, games thrive off of time, and this would be a challenge for the most loot hungry pirates in POTCO.

Besides that, you would have a separate area in the bank where you can store money, and it builds interest. This would be for pirates that want to make some extra money without doing any work.

Then, you can rob banks, and become a wanted pirate, which brings in the 'fun' factor to all of this. You can rob a bank, become a 'bad' pirate, and the bank will put a bounty on your head that other priates can get. Of course, this would introduce a PVP only island.

Then, you can invest in things such as new ships, weapons, clothing, etc... and make money from that. A national timetable in the game would show how much money pirates made or lost in investments in a certain area.

I know, it seems a bit too... downgraded, but that would be enough, really, for an economy in POTCO. It would be time consuming, introduce robbing banks, a PVP island, etc...
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:03 PM
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I think we REALLY need a black market in POTCO, where you can sell your cargo/loot so other pirates can buy it, but it could be stormed by the navy/eitc.

Oh and the Pirates hunting pirates? horrible idea. that could turn guilds/friends against each other. But i like the idea of navy/eitc on my tail.

I dont think we need that much money. 200,000 is fine with me.

I really thing ammo/tonics should be way more expensive. I have every single skill unlocked, and it costs my 200 gold to restock everything, besides tonics. And i think we should have houses, or we could live live our ships, or rent a room in a tavern for 50 gold a night.

Another thing: If you have a ship, you would have to pay to keep it at the dock on a main island, but if you are on a wild island, it would be free but your ship would take damage over time because it doesn't have shelter.
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:21 AM
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Something Leo left out... in POTBS the land combat was stale, actually, it sucked. In POTCO it's just as fun as looting the high seas. Other than that, spot on Leo.

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Edit: Oh, and can't forget the unique detail of every port.
Yeah, I'm sure that's why Nations have a town of each template. They aren't unique. Georgetown has an equivalent in France and Spain that look JUST like it.

And for GOSHS sakes, let this thread die everyone. I think the point has been pushed across enough. :P
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Wichdoctor, this threads now about why we should need a new economy.
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Well, go start a thread about it in the Recommendations forum! :P No need spamming a thread that no longer represents what it is named after.
 


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