Pirate Debate
 

Hmm, are there any debaters here on the forums? Either way, I want to host an in game debate competition. For those of you that don't know what debate is, its a form of formal arguing, where you have a topic, and then two sides: one for it, and one against it. The two sides will go through a timed group of speeches, in which they will try to prove to the judge that they're side is more convincing. The side that is more convincing wins the debate.

Anyway, I thought it would be fun to attempt an in game debate. I don't have any details yet, but if you are interested, please post to this thread. If I get enough people, I will post times and a topic.

NOTE: There will be partners, who I will be choosing for you, so there are no arguments over who has who. If you absolutely cannot work with your partner, please PM me.

List of Competitors:

Crestshot (Kat Crestshot)

The Skirata Clan (Some skirata.....)

Chimera Doll (Chimera Doll)

Jamesvsthekraken (James O'Martin)

Muffin pirate (Rachel Somethin....)

Captain Jason (Jason)

Tuefanhandel (Nathaniel Warfury)

Ropeburn (Rose Ropeburn)

Remember that most words will be in italics. It will sound Arg arg arg for many.

Davy, I would very much appreciate being signed up for this. :) TYVM.

Pirate: Kat Crestshot (Unless I decide a male presence is needed. Then I'll grab Charles;))

@TSC: We can work around it, there are many synonyms for words that we can use. And the topic will be about something in game, so that most words will be in dictionary. Thank you Crest! Your signed up!

I will be against Crest sign me up too.

Thanks for all the volunteers! Also, please post the name of the pirate you will be using. Chimera, I'm assuming your using Charlotte?

Depending on when this is to be held, I'll take a shot at it.............


Nathaniel Warfury

i try i can argue over anything

I'll try and make it.

Jason

I'm with Skirata! HA, I called it... But wait, I have speed chat..:(:38:

Just make a throwaway open chat account for the occasion then mate.

Aye... :) :D xD
 

I'll be with TSC, please sign me up and I will try to make it. :) :smiley: :Hrolleyes: :h-skull: :pumpkinani: :pumpkinani:

Ok guys, I'll be taking one more person in. Now I will be posting all the details about the debate.

Resolution ("topic" for those that don't speak debatanese): The War Galleon is the best ship in the game.

Now, what you are going to do with that topic, is you are going to find out several reasons as to why that resolution is true or false, sort of. If you are on the Affirmative side, then you will be talking about why the War Galleon is the best ship in the game. If you are Negative, you will talk about why it is not the best ship in the game. Simple enough? Yes? Good, lemme confuse you more!

The way your case will work, is you will find two to three big ideas that support your side. Example, if I were on the pro side, I could say: The War Galleon is good for combat. Then I would go on to explain to the judge, me, why it is good for combat. I want you to find two to three of those. They are called contentions.

Normally, there is a time limit for your speech, but its hard to do that, as we are typing rather than speaking, so I will time you based on how much stuff you tell us about. If you start to just ramble on and on, I will have to cut you off.

Now, let me give you the speeches.

1) Constructive speeches. These are what I just explained to you, where you tell me all your main ideas and why you are right. Affirmative always goes first.

2) First speaker Crossfire: The first speakers, the people who said the constructive, will come forward and ask each other questions. Example: Neg side could say something like, "Do you know how many more people get sunken on War Galleons than War Frigates?" Or Pro could say "Would you agree that War Galleon's armor is better than a War Frigate's?" See what I'm saying? Its a time to try to crush your opponents arguments. Each side can ask three questions. During this time, only first speakers may speak. Second speakers saying anything during the first person crossfire will result in the team being disqualified. This includes whispers.

3) Rebuttals. Now the second speaker will come up. They will try to refute, as in counter, their opponents arguments. For example, pro side could say something like this: "Our opponents talk about how great the armor of a War Galleon is, but it has two thousand less hp than the War Frigate. Therefore, a War Frigate has better armor." You will try to crush your opponents arguments, but in a more speechlike form.

4) Second speaker Crossfire. Same as first person, just the second speakers are asking the questions. Again, first speakers may not speak, or the team will be disqualified.

5) Summary. Both sides' first speakers will give a speech, in which the debate is summed up, and each side shows why they should win the debate.

6) Grand Crossfire, my favorite. This can get chaotic. Both speakers now will have a crossfire. Same rules as other Xfires.

7) Final Focuses. An even shorter version of the summary. In this speach, given by the second speakers, is a speech about what the debate has boiled down to.

Thats it! Whoever is more convincing to me wins!

Now, debate courtesy and rules:

- You MAY NOT cut your opponent off in mid speech, with the exception of crossfires. Interrupting your opponent in mid speech will result in your team's disqualification.

- Formal dress if possible. If you are a basic member, I will allow you to wear what is available, but please try to look your best.

- If you have a person randomly teleport to you, just tell us, and tell them to leave.

- In the event of someone breaking connection, stop everything and wait for them to come back online. If they are not back after ten minutes, then the match will be postponed.

- KEEP YOUR WEAPONS STOWED! If I so much as see you draw a weapon, I will mark you down, and that alone may make you lose the debate.

- Be polite to your opponents. Rude behavior will not be tolerated, and it can lose you the debate.

- What am I forgetting? It starts with an H and ends with AVE FUN..... I dunno, maybe it will come back to me...

I think thats everything. Remember, I still have room for one more person, so post if you are interested. If you have any questions, post here or PM me. I will get back to you ASAP.

Oh that's right, I have my pixie pirate with open chat... Yes!

What is the pirate's name muffy?

Rachel Somethin... LoL

And Davy, your starting to sound like me teacher. LoL:D

.....is that good or bad?

Good. LoL Benchmarks are next week xD

And when is it?

Still getting a time. I want to also give you time to figure out cases and rebuttals. This weekend or next.

I wanna PWN you all!! :D count me in.

Ok! Signups are closed! Anyone after Ropeburn is not accepted, sorry. :P

Got the teams together!

Team Red: Crestshot and Ropeburn. That may be dangerous, but we'll try it.

Team Blue: Skirata and Tuefenhandel

Team Green: Chimera Doll and the Muffin. Try not to eat him Chimera, savvy?

Team Yellow: Jamesvsthekraken and Captain Jason.

Now meet up and get to work!! Get those cases ready! I want to be amazed when I am judging!

Are we working together...? or V.S.? if its V.S...... This will be a inferno.. ;D

Teams are working together. So you and Crest are on the same team.

EDIT: Also, if there are any people here on the forums that aren't competing, and they know how to debate well, I could use one more judge.

Oh ok.... thanks... - Notes down -

Typo! And who is Yes and who is no?

My bad! Thanks for pointing that out muffin. I'll be editing it.

Who is AFFIRMATIVE and NEGATIVE? You'll find out when you get there, so learn both sides of the case!

i'll do it

Actually, I can do it myself. I would prefer so I can keep track better anyway. Sorry countainer.

When is the first meeting?

Well first of all, are you guys all working with your partners on your cases? Who is first speaker and who is second? GET WORKIN' MATES!

First meeting. Hows next sunday, 8 PM Eastern?

5 Is dinner time mate.... And thanks for the reminder....

Alright, lemme get a better time. Forget the earlier one. I'll figure one out.

i may be there to watch :D

good thing we're not doing the earlier one, I forgot about this.

You know what guys... I'm too busy to do this. Sorry mates, its being canceled. Maybe some other time.

Mods can close this thread

that would be a good idea unless... someone wanted to take this over. "points at reader"

You got us all worked up then you decide you are too busy. A DF ban.

we then tsc why don't u take over (sceams)

I don't really see the point in screaming.

Davy, if you're ever able to get this back and running, I'm willing and able. I'll have to go rearrange my spur-of-the-moment arguments though... ;)

That's to bad, it's fine though I've been really busy lately too.

Ok since there are so many complaints, here's the deal. Be online with your partner and your cases ready next Saturday at 4PM Eastern. We can have the debates there.

This is late, but can i join? And, what is the topic :S

Sorry swordshot. Too late. Already have teams. :P

Cool debates! I might be able to watch it. (Until my desktop is set up). Reminds me of politics.

Yeah, what is the topic? And by next saturday do you mean the 27th?

Not the 27th. The one after that. The... 4th I believe.

Topic is War Galleons are the best ships in the game.

ok, and against war frigates, I remember now, and where is it?

Meet on the Padres Docks, Mosona server. We'll do it on my ship for privacy. And no, not against War Frigates. The topic is War Galleons are the best ship in the game. Talk about how they are the best ships, try to compare as little as possible.

That's not really a debate then, if we're all just talking about the same topic.

Yes it is. One side is saying that "Yes! It is the best ship!" The other says "No, it is not the best ship."