You kids need to STOP ABUSING SPEED GLITCHES in pvp.

[tayseth]

I'm a pretty hardcore pvper. What makes me angry are idiots glitching up the game, thinking they are so pro.

I don't know if you've guys noticed, but getting banned over a pvp game isn't worth it. Stop glitching.

Ive been trying to find ways to combat glitchers, but i can't really, besides glitching outside the area.

[JM Ohara]

Ok, first things first, not all speeders are kids. Second, posting names actually does not help your case any. Third, yes, speeding bites big time, but D can detect it, and they do try to stop it. All you can really do is wait for them to get caught up with.

[Captain Del]

Are you sure they weren't just using one of the speed potions, instead of using the glitch? Unless you said "No tonics" before the match, then you really can't consider them "cheating."

[tayseth]

Changing between your weapons lightning fast and throwing thousands of daggers at once with no cooldown isn't caused by potions.

And yes, speed glitchers on PVP ARE kids. If you have the audacity to break PVP even more, and actually feel ACCOMPLISHED in doing so, you're a kid.

[Li Wildtimbers]

wow dude.. no offense at all right....but seriously, calm down and take a deep breath.. not ALL of them are kids, there are some adults in game who act very VERY immature. You dont know actually that they are kids or adults. enough with the judging please. If you dont like it, then report it and move on

[JM Ohara]

Ok, last time round here. A, thanks for removing the names. B, glitching does not actually harm the programing, and does not actually break the system. C, setting out broad spectrum general statements like people who speed and feel good about it are kids whether or not they actually are could be considered form of trolling.

That said, that's it for me on this thread.

[James Bladefury]

I agree, it was better when glitching was not involved. But, I find it very very annoying when you say blades only, and your opponent pulls a staff or grenades. So, to be safe, I take a deadly weapon to defeat them with their own strategy. When they complain, I tell them... "You were the first to break the match rules of blades only, now we're even...".

James

[tayseth]

Please don't call me a troll, because im not trolling. If you want me to call these "Kids" "Immature possible adults but possibly may actually be children" then thats fine. However, the point of this thread is to inform how broken PVP is, and if anybody is doing this glitch currently, then you should stop doing so.

When i say "PVP being broken" I mean it's unplayable. 90% of the games i attempt to join now are run by these types of glitchers, which means theres no point in playing if I get brawled, sweeped, Throw dirt'd, vipers nest'd, and Blade storm'd in 3 seconds. Also taking into consideration the difficulty of actually getting to the report screen on these people (For those who dont know, you have to maximize the chat screen, keep it open, get killed, and quickly click on the glitcher and hit report)



I'm basically just ranting now, since I used to play PVP quite a lot, now i have to deal with this. However, there IS hope. These speed glitches have been out for a year, but disney CAN fix these! I predict they'll fix it when the kraken comes out.

[Sven Osymthe]

This is a problem that's been around for a while. The ones who do this vary in age, however age doesn't matter, they're being immature either way. Whether the person is a kid, or an adult doesn't change a thing.

If PvP is such a problem, I would just suggest only PvPing with your friends. That is the only way to remain safe from this. There are other issues that play a role in this as well, such as hitting esc + F1 (2, 3 or 4) to draw your weapon quicker.


I wish it could be fixed, but it is actually very difficult. Speeding was originally done by changing the time on your computer, now third party programs are the cause. The only way to fix it is with terminating accounts, however the person will just make a new one.

Just to add, you can report by emailing Disney, it is much easier, and you are given a response (sometimes generic, but a response none the less).

[Raikel]

I do admit, I used this glitch before, with a computer that had issues getting online. Once it loaded, I would fix it back to normal speed though. I no longer need it because I have no more issues with this new rig. I have found many glithers, and some have invited me into crew. I was training nades in Tormenta for a while, and one of them gives me the idea to attack the Fly Traps on Outcast. Was a good idea, but I supposed he used speeding to train his nades like he was training his single shot, so I reported him.

All I can say is report them. No matter what, you can't do anything else to stop them.

[Angel Daggerfury]

Originally Posted by tayseth

Changing between your weapons lightning fast and throwing thousands of daggers at once with no cooldown isn't caused by potions.

And yes, speed glitchers on PVP ARE kids. If you have the audacity to break PVP even more, and actually feel ACCOMPLISHED in doing so, you're a kid.

Not everyone is kids. I don't think anyone can throw all daggers at once, u mean like within 1-2 seconds? Coz throwing daggers within like 1-2 seconds isn't speeding, that's fast switch, kinda like how fast switch is done for grenades.

Originally Posted by tayseth

When i say "PVP being broken" I mean it's unplayable. 90% of the games i attempt to join now are run by these types of glitchers, which means theres no point in playing if I get brawled, sweeped, Throw dirt'd, vipers nest'd, and Blade storm'd in 3 seconds.

Ok brawl & throw dirt are both cheap, I thought it was like an understood rule 2 not use brawl & throw dirt when its blades only. If you don't like daggers that much, u could always go the old school pvp style where it was just cutlass only back in the day.

Originally Posted by Sven Osymthe

There are other issues that play a role in this as well, such as hitting esc + F1 (2, 3 or 4) to draw your weapon quicker.

Agree.

[Edward Edgemenace]

OMG

tayseth, my heart goes out to you bro. Don't expect sympathy here on POF - the broad majority of people here don't understand the difference between HACKING, vs. the swift foot potion. Or maybe they do, but abuse CE themselves, therefore try to obfuscate your complaint.

For example, you can explain that you were hit 20-50 times in 2 or 3 seconds, yet people here on POF will think you are trying to describe fast-switching (HAHAHAHAHA.) Obviously you are talking about encountering someone who has hacked the game...but the denial around here will earn you derision instead of compliments. HACKING the game is a blatant violation of Disney's terms of service, yet rarely results in even a 72 hour suspension.

Yes, speeding has been a problem for a very long time. Disney has never pursued the makers of cheat engine (they should, as should the FBI) probably because they don't realize how much revenue they lose from it. Disney has never bothered with a snippet of heartbeat code to verify clockspeed (from client computer vs. any Disney server) so they actually have no way of knowing, currently. The new potions make it harder for Disney to verify reports of abuse.

Some good news:

• http://piratesonline.go.com/
• Help (navigation bar on left of page)
• Contact Us (first item)
• E-mail form (third link)
• Report Misbehaving Players

Fortunately, in there, you can get as lengthy as you need to. The bad news, is that they seem to be ignoring reports.

Again, from what you said, you are encountering people who have HACKED the game. That is clear to me, as I also see people like that almost daily.

Now, just to be thorough...

Swift foot glitch:

origin: Disney
method: done within the context of the game
running speed: up to 30 times normal speed (each increment increases chances of client game crashing - my tests got me to 15 one day.)
jumping height: up to 30 times normal height
attack speed: unchanged
sailing speed: unchanged
server performance effects: minimal or no affect to other people's games
worth reporting: nope

Fast switching (e.g. bladestorm/Esc) glitch:

origin: Disney
method: done within the context of the game
running speed: unchanged
attack speed: up to an 80% speed increase (less than twice as fast as normal)
sailing speed: unchanged
server performance effects: minimal or no affect to other people's games
worth reporting: nope

Hacking game:

Origin: unknown
method: done using 3rd party software in complete violation of TOS
running speed: up to 100 times normal speed (one-click - limit is client computer's available computing power)
jumping height: up to 100 times normal height
attack speed: up to 100 times normal attack rate
sailing speed: up to 100 times normal sailing speed
server performance effects: catastrophic affects to any other player on that server. Enemy re-spawning alone, locks up server for 3 to 5 seconds at a time.
worth reporting: absolutely

Sailing (regular, not SvS) is perhaps the worst effect. When someone is hacking the game, even if you are on their ship, it is impossible to even get off a single shot at an enemy ship before it is gone. It is beyond ridiculous to even try launching your own ship - every enemy will simply vanish before your pirate's eyes. The servers struggle to match the hacked client computer's speed, so the ships you do encounter will be attacking YOUR SHIP at the speed of the person hacking (NOT FUN!) if they have been aggro'd by the hacker, before you. Enemy ships respawn everywhere with little or no warning.

Sailing in ship vs. ship (privateering) makes SvS an absurdly unplayable part of the game POTCO. With max windcatcher, max ramming speed, when you see someone sail circles around your war sloop...guess what? Yup, they are hacking the game. I know of only 1 person (not me) who played SvS from the start, that still plays it regularly. Without some way of immediately booting people hacking the game, there really is no point in even trying SvS. Even on a quiet server, you can only play with friends or guild mates for a couple minutes, before someone hacking the game will come along.

Within the regular game (land-based enemies) you can be in the cursed caverns, and see the red dots just disappear from the F8 map when someone cruises through. If very very adept, you might be able to click on their pirate as they fly by. You can switch servers or wait it out. Fortunately, they have the attention span of gnats, rarely doing more than three or four laps. (6 to 8 minutes.) You can observe the server grinding to a halt, trying to keep up with the hacked pirate...your pirate will barely be able to move at all.

The effects of hacking in PvP is somewhat more pronounced. People hacking the game can easily land 50 attacks in 2 seconds. Obviously that makes PvP silly. But do remember the "~" key while in PvP match - get the screenshots you can, then pop out to the "Contact us" e-mail form and give it a shot.

Sadly, both people I've reported for hacking just this week, I've encountered again the next day after reporting.

[Eliza Creststeel]

Bottom line...

People who can't WIN any other way will find short cuts and somehow they now feel accomplished. This goes into the same lump for me as those who sucker you in by challenging you with a low-level character, but upon inspection you find that they've mastered cutlass and nothing else - hoping to fool people or worse, you jump into a match - only to find they didn't tell you about their 2-3 friends in their crew who ambush you.

It's predatorial.

These low lifes live off exploiting the system and pummeling any suckers they can lure in. I pretty much gave up on PvP and SvS some time ago, only now doing it with fellow guild members. Both features are full of hustlers and bad sports.

And sadly Tay, I'm sorry we can't name names. Maybe posting the cheats publicy would shame them or at least WARN others not to fight them.

(Please don't call this trolling, because if you do - then you're defending cheaters.)

[Kat Five Knives]

The only time I PVP is with a very good guild mate, or during BBK events. I just don't go with people I don't know. Therefore, I've never been subject to this type of cheating in PVP.

[James Bladefury]

I agree with you guys, but imo, it seems very very hard to find a descent playing pirate for anything, whether its pvp, svs, parlor games, or leveling. I was on abassa recently, and I got stormed with people who wanted to pvp me. I said no and they called me bad names because I refused to battle them. If the person doesnt get what they want, they will be angry, simple for them. They called me some bad things, so I reported them, and it made me feel very good because I probably won't see them for days because of what they did. All I have to say now is where is Edward Kidd... he was on Abassa a few months ago taking down hackers and people who glitch by knocking them out, over and over again, whoever tried to help them. This was before the potions, so it was easy to tell, and that is why he is my favorite GM, always respecting the Code.