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Old 11-16-2010, 03:08 AM
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Wink every thing hould be able to shoot everyone

Would it be raised to teen if you shot at someone and it looked the same as if you attack them with a sword? i mean that flash of light would be the same.
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Old 11-16-2010, 03:12 AM
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Yes, it would. Because it adds realism. Again, shooting is a reality. A kid can actually take Papa's huntin' gun and go around shooting things, but its unlikely that the family keeps a sword or voodoo staff.
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Old 11-16-2010, 03:28 AM
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This is the same logic of why hand-to-hand combat won't be added. I do fully agree with no including direct gunplay.
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Old 11-16-2010, 04:12 AM
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Many of you that are not kids are viewing this from a child point of view which i like but this game has enough safety and uninfluenced reasons of crimes which it cant be the reason why pirates cant shoot at everything. you guys are taking the shooting thing to literal. I don't expect children to go kill someone with a gun as many of you mentioned because we are allowed to use blades in this game to kill any enemy and a blade is a very common household item(knife) therefore blades should have a greated effect than guns in influencing kids but it doesnt.

The real reason why pirates cant shoot at everything is because thats how the game started and it was added as part of the pirate code. It would be nonsense to change that because its something that will change many parts of the game so in my opinion its useless to argue on whether guns should be able to human beings in pirates online because i dont think it will ever be changed.
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Old 11-16-2010, 04:20 AM
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This is the same logic of why hand-to-hand combat won't be added. I do fully agree with no including direct gunplay.
I agree with Eliza here. Think of all the other things that could be worse, and more common than guns. Hand to hand is something everyone can do, even dogs. If they added it, the kids would think that since their pirate can do it, so can they.
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I agree with Eliza here. Think of all the other things that could be worse, and more common than guns. Hand to hand is something everyone can do, even dogs. If they added it, the kids would think that since their pirate can do it, so can they.
So explain me whats stopping a kid from taking a knife from his kitchen and stabbing random people on the street??? Nothing-you cant just say that a game will influence real life events. If blades haven't influenced that kind of stuff on kids then i dont think that there is a chance guns doing so. Also guns are already usable in game so it wouldn't make the slightest difference on kids life(also think rated 10+ and parental controls)
I'm used to no guns shooting at navy and stuff therefore i like game as it is plus i only play because of ship pvp.
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Old 11-16-2010, 04:33 AM
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thw govwnor person who opened the door in the movie got shot by a member of the black pearl!
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Eliza, the pirates code can be changed.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:06 AM
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Eliza, the pirates code can be changed.
That is true, but thats not what we are debating. We are debating whether or not it should be changed.

Let me point this out. You say that we can slash, blow up, drown, poison, burn, and do other horrors to our Navy friends, and now you want to shoot them aye? But, why would you want to shoot them when we are already able to slash, blow up, drown, poison, burn, and do other horrors to them. Its like wanting more money when you already have a bazillion dollars. I honestly don't even think we need to. If I use my gun, I go blow up Darkhart, and I'm sure he appreciates the company.

Also, let me point this out again. A normal human being can only take one or so shots from a gun! Now, before you counter with how many slashes from a sword one can take, think of it like this. Instead of health, their HP points are more like defense power. As you continue slashing away, their defense power decreases, and then once it's low enough, you take that final slash which is the ONLY slash that actually hits them. See what I'm saying? And nobody, unless your some uber awesome speedy master ninja guy, can block a bullet, or group of bullets if your using a blunderbuss.
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thw govwnor person who opened the door in the movie got shot by a member of the black pearl!
The Black Pearl guys were undead because they were cursed of Aztec Gold.
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Okay, i get what your saying. i think of it that way sometimes to, but i never thought of how skeletons being able to take more than one shot. thanks for posting here.
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:52 PM
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This is actually a very good debate...as we all know, there are far, far worse games out there that are incredibly brutal and violent...and what's even worse is that many parents still buy these games for their kids...yes kids... what's worse is that lil 10yr olds, etc go to mommy & daddy and say "buy me this for XBox or w/e console" and they do it because the console is the new babysitter of today...

We as adults have the knowledge to know what's right and wrong, and can distinguish fact from fiction whereas kids, even thought they should know better by now, can also still be influenced...the thing is to teach them what we already know...it's not real life, it's a game...

Now, as for this game...we've all seen the movies, we've seen that while yes it is a Big D movie there is still violence in it and yes we do see soldiers firing their bayonets at Pirates...we saw Jack Sparrow pull his gun on Will Turner, we saw Jack shoot Barbossa, heck we saw Jack's father Captain Teague shoot someone...and we saw Beckett pull a gun on Jack as well...

While the Pirate's Codex is "merely a set of guidelines", they still for the most part honor it as much as they possibly can...which is why we should honor the game as it is and not change it...we have plenty of things to shoot at with our guns...and I'm sure that if Disney ever wanted to up the level of realism then they would add it to the game...

Plus if you think about it, weapons of that time were terribly inaccurate...yet in this game we have the ability to hold steady and charge up before firing...in real life that would not be...

I think that while it would add a bit of realism to the game, for now I think we should just let it be...

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Old 11-17-2010, 03:23 AM
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Guys, the GUN part of the code thing is merely contrived convenience to keep the game from degrading into a mass shoot out.

Logic being logic, why shouldn't a group of Navy come running, muskets blazing when down one of their compatriots? Don't question the realism - ITS A GAME.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:49 PM
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I see a lot of good points on both sides, and agree with parts of both. I am for the most part though glad we can't use guns on humans. Skeletons and Tormenta guys look enough not like humans that those are fine. Anyway, technically they only used to be human. It would add a little much realism yes. Which, I suppose is why, like others have said, there's no hand to hand combat. I'd say leave it as is. (Though I would love to see a weapon added at level 40. Off topic yeah I know lol.)

I don't agree with the people who say a game can't be sued. That's not entirely true. No, they can't bring a criminal suit against them. But so far as I know there's no reason someone couldn't file civil suit. Also, while it's not a video game but a movie, I'm sure there are those of you on here who remember the Matrix Defense? Years back someone committed a crime, and used the defense the Matrix made them do it. Yeah, there's a difference between a game and a movie. But I can guarantee there are people at Disney who remember that. I think they are covering bases by not letting us shoot people.

Speaking personally I say leave well enough alone. In the long range of the game, the ability to shoot or not is minor. Anyway, if they have to develop shooting humans into the game then they'd probably want to do reworking of quests and such to fit that, particularly the pistol quests. Something tells me they do not want to add to the pistol quest, Defeat 8 Navy Soldiers using a pistol. Besides, any development on this would take away from whatever they are currently planning. I would far rather see a story chapter than the ability to shoot Navy and Eitc. (No, it wouldn't take near as long to do the later, but that's just how I feel.)
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Has there even been a case where some kid has shot someone because he was playing a violent video game? i am not sure, but someone i doubt it.
I have heard of teenagers shooting cops, then the media connects it to them playing Grand Theft Auto... Not because they played it, but the media will have you believe that.

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but its unlikely that the family keeps a sword or voodoo staff.
And are you making fun of my family?
 


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