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Jack Sunskull · #31 08-19-2009, 01:38 PM

I left a comment for the grog blog too, doubt they will post it though. This may be meant for humor, but come on all of us older pirates did our time and you didn't see any of us crying over about landing in jail.

Maybe they post these dumb things, just so we have something to talk/complain about here on our forum, they figure we will be preoccupied complaining/chatting here and they can take their sweet time to give us the next update.

Added: Does any one ever read some of the comments on the Grog Blog, other than Eliza's and mine (that never make it on there). How many do you think D adds to make it look like people are actually commenting? They say they will post the positives and negatives, but I hardly see any negative posts up there. (Probably to make it look like every ones enjoying the game)

Sorry for the ranting, the game just gets frustrating at times and at least you guys listen or not.

Juliana Maria · #32 08-19-2009, 02:20 PM

Now I do rather like the Grog Blog. It's humurous and makes for a good story every once in awhile. I like to have fun with the the stories on occasion and put a little story in. Anways, I'm reading through the comments; Some really get into it and tell a fun tale, others add their input on the revive system itself.. But this next one I found rather upsetting:

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Yep, that happened to me. I was doing an important part of my quest, and he let me go to jail. But, I'm an officer in my guild, so I kicked him out.

Can't believe people are really taking it this serious. Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances but the way I read it, they didn't get the help they wanted when they wanted so they booted the fellow. I could be wrong, but I guess my point is that I hope we don't have guilds and pirates taking this system all to seriously. Its a nice option for pirates but its in no way an obligation.

Jack Sunskull · #33 08-19-2009, 02:29 PM

We should have an option to turn off the Tonic revive, although I guess just not hitting shift when some ones around works too.

What they should have done was instead of using one of our tonics we should use one of theirs and if they are out then too bad you go to jail.

Erich Uchiha · #34 08-19-2009, 02:53 PM

As PG09 said,

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Yep, that happened to me. I was doing an important part of my quest, and he let me go to jail. But, I'm an officer in my guild, so I kicked him out.

Pirate Girl, I had to see that with my own eyes on the Disney site. And I saw it.

Thats pretty harsh for not reviving him, I mean booting a fellow guild member? Really? And Aye, Disney is making this so people take this much more seriously than it needs to be. Wonder what kind of guild hes in, don't want to join it on acciedent.

Jack Sunskull · #35 08-19-2009, 03:06 PM

Hopefully his GM gets wind of what he did and questions him about it. Removing a guild mate for not reviving you is harsh, maybe they were new and didnt understand how to revive. I know it took me a few times until I figure out, you need to hit shift while standing next to them.

Thanks Big D for letting us know that info.

Basil Dreadflint · #36 08-19-2009, 03:27 PM

My take on this: The following are just my opinions and experiences.

Disney got a lot of complaints on exactly what they posted. People would join a crew saying that they would revive if needed, then didn't do it. I'll bet that people were reporting these "not reviving as promised" crew mate pirates as being 'rude'.

There could be a lot of reasons for this.
One, If I revive one person, that uses one of my tonics. I CANNOT revive another person until my tonic recharges!!!! If someone else falls in battle, I can't help them. (No one even discussed this one.)
Two, they were preoccupoed with something else. (Like fighting for their own life.)
Three, they never had any intention of reviving. (Still doesn't justify a complaint. It's just pirates being pirates. Isn't one of the rules, Befriend others wisely?)
Four, The person who needed revived was random and just started demanding the revive, and didn't get it. (There is NO obligation to revive ANYBODY, EVER.)

I have used the revive feature exactly once. To try it. And the person I used it on deliberately knocked herself out with grenades just so I could revive her.

I have never been revived, for any reason. The few times I have fallen since this feature came out, I immediately hit the jail option. I'm not going to put my crew mates in jeopardy trying to revive me.

I see NO USE for the revive feature!

Since Disney removed the "Swarm" feature of enemies, and reduced the aggression factor, the only time you get in a fight is if you attack first. You should never attack an enemy unless you are prepared to fight. If you need a tonic, that is YOUR responsibilty, not someone elses. If you have a healer, (Crew) then you won't get knocked out, and won't need a revive. The game is based on levels. If you attack an enemy who is too strong for you to defeat, with all the weapons, tonics, and healing you can get, then that enemy is one you should not be fighting in the first place. If you attack an enemy who is too high for you, and you can't beat them by strength, a tonic, or healing, you deserve to go to jail.

Plain and simple.

I do like the one idea mentioned below by Jack Sunskull. If you revive someone, it uses one of THEIR tonics, not yours. If they have no tonics available, then they can't be revived. This would prevent a pirate from showing up with no tonics, yet expecting to be saved every time they get in trouble.

As far as someone booting a guildmate out of the guild for not reviving them. The person who got booted should be grateful. The officer who booted them did them a favor. I surely wouldn't want to be in a guild where a person like that was an officer. Being a GM or an officer is not about abusing the positon, it's about being a leader.

Davy Gunflint · #37 08-19-2009, 04:51 PM

I get what you guys are saying... but I think the problem is that many mastered pirates are taking advantage of this to have fun and annoy the low leveled pirates. It is just like cursing at someone, if someone went around cursing other pirates Disney would have to take action there as well. This revive action may not mean much to lvl 40's but to the new playyers it is a help, if you don't want to help the younger players... dont bother! that is the bottom line, don't take advantage of them for fun. Also, many of you don't know but if Disney gets enough complaints on a subject, they are forced to make a statement.

And you know what, if all you do is complain about the game, why play it. There are many other things to do... Get outside, Play a different game, go out with friends, Do Something instaead of sit there on a computer and complain about a game you continue to playif you don't like it. Disney did promise new releases, but I'd like to see some of you sit down and try to run a game that is Live and that has people constantly demanding new things. Think about how many complaints they get and how long computer graphics, dialog, testing, and brainstorming take... and on top of all that they must deal with complaints and contant upgrades. People don't see how hard this really is and you take it for granted.

Go ahead and call my message a waste of space too, but I am addressing the real issue, its not about someone takeing going to jail the wrong way, this happened when people ran out of voodoo. it is about delibratly mislead pirates for the enjoyment of selfesh mastered pirate, not all of them, but some. I would go as far as to say that some of what you guys posted was selfesh as well. All you want is updates for yourselves, but disney can't just focus on that they need to keep everyone happy. And so what they posted a tiny message on their site, there is not such thing as a waste of space where more can continually be deleted and re made. I garantee I will get a warning for this message, but that defeats the meaning of a debate.

Some of you will understand that what I said does have meaning, but for those of you who Have to be right, be my guest. I am not doing this to be mean, but I will not let a group of bandwagoners fall into the hands of 1 stupid comment. havent you heard be Leaders not Followers. No one here has stood up because they are scared to, but I did. Go ahead with the hate mail, I can take it.

And I do belive the whole guild officer booting thing was way out of line, that probably was an accident, but what if it was a fight. You need the whole story to write a book.

Basil Dreadflint · #38 08-19-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy Gunflint

I get what you guys are saying... but I think the problem is that many mastered pirates are taking advantage of this to have fun and annoy the low leveled pirates.

Davy,

My opinion is that you might have a bit of this wrong. Like I said beofre, I have used revive exactly once, and that was to try it out when it was first released. Most of the players I know think it is a joke.

I don't think the problem is level 40's annoying low level pirates, I think it is lower levels and childish pranks, trying to see how many people they can trick into believing them , and then sending to jail.
No mastered, or even high level, pirate would join a crew to offer to revive! They would offer to HEAL and CURE instead. The doll is much more powerful than the revive. The doll can be used as a weapon while healing, unlike being defenceless while reviving, and it doesn't cost the healer any tonics, or money, to use. High level's would heal, not revive. So, if there have been complaints, and if it has become an issue, then it isn't the high levels, but those who don't have a doll, that are being complained about.

**Sven Niscadae** · #39 08-19-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Basil Dreadflint

Since Disney removed the "Swarm" feature of enemies, and reduced the aggression factor, the only time you get in a fight is if you attack first.

Just a side note. i think they're tweaking the aggression factor on enemies still. I have been noticing lately that some enemies that weren't attacking me even if I stepped on their feet are now attacking me when I get close to them. Examples I remember off the top of my head at the moment are last night with my new baby pirate (Cadets on PR, scorpions and crabs on Devil's Anvil) and the other night with little Sven with Timmy. I was just hanging around with Kat O'9 & Tess while they were working on Tim (whilst I was placing amusing thought bubbles above his head - haha). I mistakenly walked up to him before they pulled him and he thwomped on me good.

Anyway, back on topic.

Davy Gunflint · #40 08-19-2009, 06:59 PM

I said that because I saw people doing it Basil. Don't tell me that I did'nt see it. There are to many bored masterd ppl here. No one would crew to offer to Revive, I said that they let the people dies and then leave, I've seen it, I know it. Just watch in the forts and you'll see. Many lvl 40's are full of themselves and by the way, if thats all you have to complain about in my post, then I do not believe you have an argumant. I think it is kind of a stupid thing to do, but believe me or not it happens. No one will like what I say but at least I'M honest. So if you want to argue know the facts.

Crim · #41 08-19-2009, 07:03 PM

I agree with Davy completely. Even though adults play this game, children do as well. Many people came to this game with the exact intention of what Disney had promised them - Adventure. Disney, as Davy said, is making a statement simply telling players to be careful. How many of you have been asked by a low level to help them, but when the time came you blew them off and tp'ed away? This is what they're saying. Pirates are pirates, some can't be trusted. I personally find the Revive System very useful, because I have been leveling my 2nd character and when I died, a member came and revived me.

It may not be in your interest, if you're a Maxed Lv40, to have a revive system since your players may rarely be defeated. But to the younger players it may be very handy. Whoever stated this is a waste of space is failing to recognize the true meaning behind the recent post on Disney's site. Disney tries to ensure the welfare of all players of all ages, hence Rated E for Everyone. People, mainly teenagers, who abuse their House Rules and policies ruin it for everyone else by cursing and getting around suspensions, example: Linked Accounts. It's a shame, yes, to rule everyone out for someone's intentional mistake, but they must do something to rid the problem.

As Davy said, it takes much time to add content, revise it, and update it just to meet member demands. They are making new content at the moment, so be patient. If you knew new content was coming or not, you'd still have to wait the same amount of time for it to come out.

Basil Dreadflint · #42 08-19-2009, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy Gunflint

I said that because I saw people doing it Basil. Don't tell me that I did'nt see it. There are to many bored masterd ppl here.

Then I'm sorry for you for the type of pirates that you run into, and I'm sorry for them because they have to stoop so low in order to enjoy the game.
I can assure you that neither myself, nor any who are my friends, would be so low as to do something like that. There is way too much fun still in the game that we don't have to find ways to grief others as a form of entertainment. Especially with something as mundane as revive.

Jack Sunskull · #43 08-19-2009, 07:21 PM

I agree Basil, there is more fun out there for us lvl 40's. The POF staff keeps things interesting too, so I will still keep my tonics to myself unless my friends or guild mates truly need them for a revive, but if I am healing/curing them there should be no need.

Davy Gunflint · #44 08-19-2009, 07:33 PM

Thanks,

Many People, as the notice (the one that got so many complaints) said, join the crew and leave when the person falls. it is as simple as that.

I just thought that some people need to take into consideration other Ideas than their own (the idea of a form post) because it seemed to me that many of you took this as a joke and personally. Unless you were the one doing these things then I do not think you need to attack the notice with such ferocity. If anyone wants to argu I would be glad to here your points as well. The revive system is helpfull to some people, Not you guys maybe, but the low levels. As Crim said, when lvling his other pirate it is nice to get a helping hand, not be double crossed. Also some of you said that you had to suffer through going to jail, why shouldent they? 1. they do, because of the pirates who are being greedy and lazy with their revive opportunitys. 2. Even though we did have to go to jail, We always hoped that there would be something to help out, now that there is, just because we don't really need it for our selves, does not mean that we do not need to think of it as a useless addition. I believe peopel are thinking that Disney wasted their time on this instead of making new additions for the high lvls. Well think of it this way, pirates from lvls 33 on down are usually still dieing alot when they try to lvl, the only people who need the new additions are lvl 40's, whos in more demand. also like I said before it does take more time to make big game additions than to make the revive. I am not saying they put us last, but that is just how it is, it is like a vote, which gets more votes wins. as i said, post your arguments, I'll be glad to reply. But this is not just to challenge you, I truly hope I have resoned with som of, and I would like to point out that I am not trying to shoot down all of your ideas, just the ones that i believe to be wrong, or abusive. By abusive i mean how hard we can be on disney.

Jck, I'm not saying you must help others, but its nice to, tonics dont cost alot anyway. But I agree it is nice to help your guild mates and friends, but you dont have to act like you cant help others.

Jack Sunskull · #45 08-19-2009, 07:40 PM

I have lower pirates too, and I would prefer jail over being revived. It's something I am used to since I started the game before these additions, if I am with a crew or friends and I go down, I tell them to save their tonics for themselves.

Tonic's for revive really only prevent you from being teleported back to a main island with a jail, other than that there is no real advantage because you still end up groggy.